CL-S 6MT

Hey guys i got my 03 CL-S 6MT couple months back, i have couple of quiestions

#1 do all 6 speed do not go into 5th in neutral but goes in fine while car is moving

#2 While launching car at 5k as a test launch car bogs down and feels like the clutch is slipping but its not

03silvertypeS

not so sure i'm following you, but my car goes into all gears when stopped with no problems. It's not like it accomplishes anything, but I have no problem going through all 6 gears when clutch is depressed.

I've never really launched my car at 5k, but i imagine it's not the best rpm to launch at since that's right about where VTEC kicks in. If you launch at a slightly lower rpm, you shouldn't have any problems

CL-S 6MT

Well, it does not matter if the car is on or off its just idling, the clutch is depressed the car goes into every gear except 5 th...

Allout

Are you sure that at idle, you're not just going into reverse instead of 6th? Might have something to do with the lockout mechanism.

MikeCLS6

My shifter rows through all the gears just fine. GEEEZ 5K rpm drops.....i dont think my car has ever seen 5k rpm's, I drive like a grandma

gurot1

I've noticed the same thing, about not going into 5th and 6th when car is idling. Maybe it has something to do with reverse, but I remember my one friend saying something about some other cars having the same thing (not going into upper gears when car is idling) I don't think it 's a problem...nothing to worry about

fuzzy02CLS

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Never tried rowing gears in N. Don't know.
I wouldn't launch the car at 5K RPM's. That's just dumb. This isn't a mustang. If you need an RPM launch keep it low to get the best traction, less then 2500rpm.

xenolite

I can go through all the gears just fine, with the clutch at idle.
Just make sure you're not all the way over in the reverse side, because it's a fine line.

cltypeSLOW

rofl at 5k launch.

AcUrAge703

i can go into all gears at idle...i sometimes catch my self going into 5th instead of reverse if im parking or at a slow roll...but sitting still...every gear works....and as the launch thing...i dunno anything about that...and wouldnt really try that...sounds too crazy for my blood...i feel mine doing that after like 3k rpm so i try not to even keep the rpms that high...then again i dont do launches.....dont really have anywhere to go that fast...lol

GreenMonster

Trying to check to see if the clutch is slipping, eh ??

The old trick is to put the car into 5th and rev the engine (maybe to 3500 or so, not 5000) and then let the clutch up. If the engine stalls, the clutch is good... if the engine doesn't stall, but just hesitates, the clutch is slipping (and is probably on it's last legs).

I can't get it into 5th (or 6th) stopped at idle can only go into reverse. I've noticed the 5th gear thing before too. I just checked it when I went out to lunch. It's like the reverse lockout that won't let you engage reverse when you're above a certian speed. I can't get 5th (or 6th) unless I'm rolling... didn't feel like checking to see what the miminum speed to put it into 5th...

I just would drop it into 5th as I'm coming up to a traffic light. When stopped, I could get out of 5th, but not back in... only thing I could grab in that 5-6th gate was reverse (verfied by the rear view mirror tilting)...

So other then launching at 5K, everything sounds fine to me... Looks like the reverse lockout feature is coming into play here...

silver6speed

I used to be able to row thru all the gears at idle in neutral. Now i can row thru all the gears but 5th gear. Any ideas what this could be.

Rajca

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i never tried it at idle. but with teh car off i can row through all the gears. ive done a few 5k launches (at the track) a shit load of wheel spin.

silver6speed

I cant go into 5th gear with the car off either. Every other gear is fine but 5th. Dont think ive ever launched above 3.5k.

Allout

At idle, you can get it into 5th but you have to feel for the 5-6 gate. You just can't push all the way to the right because you'll be in the reverse gate and it won't go up - only down.

OperationDarkie

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if you always go into second gear first then try another gear, it usually works for my car, I can go into any gear I want.

StreetKA

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x2

i was about say the same thing but you were first there is a 5th and 6th gear row b4 revers row and if you go through them slowly you will feel it...

silver6speed

Im not that stupid. I have been driving this car for 7 years. Never had a problem with 5th gear before. I can get it into 6th gear no problem, but not 5th. Im not trying to push it all the way to the right. There is simply no gate to push it in. I have no problems going into 5th gear while driving. There has to be something else going on. This never happened for the 7 years i drove the car till now.

CL-S progression 01

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dude that's just one of those things your mind tells you is a problem because it's not like it was b4.

if anything maybe syncros or something aren't grooving anymore but really what are you going to do rebuild the trans?

I say live with it until it's something you have to fix. who knows maybe u never will have to

Car drives fine, you are fine. i see no reason to lose sleep over this "issue"

civicdrivr

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Ill check mine later. I never tried.

fuzzy02CLS

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Never tried. Don't care to either. Why? Who cares? If it works with the car on as it should be....

civicdrivr

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x2, but I still gave it a try earlier today. It goes into every gear but 5th with the car off. The only way to get it into 5th is to go to 6th first. Then it goes in like butter.

cleptosis

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your going to ruin clutch fly wheel n tranny like that maybe its slipping a lil because flywheel needs to be resurfaced from your 5k launches but on a serious note take it apart top off tranny fluid new throught breaing resurface flywheel n if clutch looks bad replace that maybe go for a stage 2 if your going to be doing thing like that with your car jsut my .02c

Jacobpockros

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My older CL would not go into 5th in nuetral, but the one i have now does.

fsttyms1

OP try this or try letting out on the clutch then pushing it back in again. Your syncros may not be lining up. You should be able to go into all the gears..

Nersh7

I play with this all the time but never really paying attention so I'm not sure if mine does or not as for the clutch seeming to slip at your 5k launches, it may be the check valve in the slave cylinder. there is a DIY on the third gen TL side that has a removal and the pros and cons of this.

OperationDarkie

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No I'm serious the manual says if you have a hard time getting in to first gear or other gears, try putting it in second then putting it in the gear you want, it has worked everytime for mine.

CL-S progression 01

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i just don't get what all this speculation is... ur not going to open the tranny up because of a problem u deem to be a problem.

If the car drives fine, ur are problem free.

all this rambling is just .... not worth rambling about.

So ur car should do this... but does that. which really doesn't mean anything for certain, unless you want it to.

if driveability starts to suffer then u know ur onto something, but it seems like ur looking for someone to tell you... ur car is fucked because this this and that.

it may just be one of those freak things... that ur car does and others do not.

Like how some people claim 3rd to 4th gear in the auto trans will stay in vtec, and most say it's out of vtec for like 3-400rpms.

call it what u want, but it's not worth losing sleep over

Jacobpockros

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Actually, my new cl does it as well. It's not a problem its normal.

civicdrivr

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I usually put it into 2nd before 1st, and 3rd before reverse. It helps it go in smoother (thats what she said!).

GreenMonster

Holy thread bump... I was going to reply, but then realized that I replied 3 years ago

friesm2000

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, but at least you noticed that it was 3 years ago