gavriil

So the fastest and quickest Audi now is an A6. Dubbed the RS6. Audi put in the 4.2 liter V8 from the A8 and added 2 turbos to it. Result: 450HP @ ??? and toruqe: 410 lb-ft @ 1950rpm !!! all the way to 5500 rpm !!!

0-100km/hr (0-62.1mph)= 4.9 seconds with an automatic tranny!!
Top Speed governed at 155mph

So the car will only come with a Tiptronic (like our Sportshift) type of a transmission with paddles behind the steering wheel.

The car will only come as an AWD (permanent AWD).

Although the top speed is governed at 250 km/hr, the speedometer shows 310km/hr (192.6 mph)!!!

The weight is about the same as the S6 (1800kgr or 3964 pounds!! - wow...heavy).

Tires are 255/35/18 all around (same as the S6). The turbos come from Cossworth Technologies which Audi owns now (bought from loser Ford ). The price is expected to be 85,000 Euros or $74,000.

Here are the photos:

JRock

So it weighs like 500lbs more than our car but it has twice the power and torque. I'd take that trade-off.

Marc S

Id pimp it

gavriil

Hehehe...

soopa

that thing is hot as hell!

i want i want i want.

BigPimp

That thing is fucking money, too bad most of us cant afford it.
However, at 74gs, I am more likely to be in an M5.

gavriil

So I am thinking that the 150HP, 1.8 liter engine, in the A4, people can tweak to reliably make 300HP+, with not much money invested. Thus, I see no problem tweaking this monster to 650HP. Cos putting that power to the ground will not be an issue with AWD and these stock tires. I would actually leave the governor at 155mph. I am sure 3.5 seconds for the 0-60 is doable if the tranny can take it. :P

Nashua_Night_Hawk

That is an M5 fighter.... too bad. I would not spend a $74,000 on it.... cause I do not have such money yet.....

But really this is a really a fabulous ride....

Imagine what a $500 chip upgrade does for that Bi-Turbo V8!....

Can some one give me those $75,000, or make that a $100,000

astro

I honestly think I would spend my money on the RS6 before I would ever buy an M5...that Audi is pimp, and because it's turbo, you are guaranteed to be able to tweak it for more power

ThoroDredCLS

Now I DEFINITELY can't wait for the all mighty S4! Can you imagine an engine similiar to that but, lighter mated with 6spd!!!! "I can't take it, I am going to pass out!!!" (repeat 10 times) :wackit:

Nashua_Night_Hawk

I am too in the line for the next 04 S4.....
It Should be a nice 340 HP V8 on a 3300 lb of steel. Too bad there would be an anftermarket Bi-turbo mod 2 yrs later...

But I will take it...

moforose3.0

I wish I could afford that Jom

gavriil

Hehe

The next S4 looks like it will get this same engine only without the turbos. Expect 330HP-340HP. Six speed is guarranteed.

gavriil

You mean dubbed as 2004 right? I would think that it would be availabe during the first half of 2003. What have you heard?

Nashua_Night_Hawk

the next S4 would shown for the first time in 2002 Geneva Auto Show, And it would arrived to the US next year March to June 2003 as an early 2004 Model...

I want a 6-speed SMG on the S4!

Also, If the S6 got a Bi-Turbo, I would say it would be feasible to drop that BI-Turbo on the S4....

Yummy,..... 450Hp on S4......

Black CL-S 4-Life

That Audi is the bomb! Wake up Honda!

gavriil

The S6 gets the 4.2 liter engine without the turbos making 340HP and 310lb-ft of torque. The biturbo engine is available only with the RS6 (as far as the A6 line is concerned - I am sure we will see that engine with other AUdis like some version of the A8 and some Avant version).

About the SMG. I agree 100%. We need to see more brands offer what BMW has with SMG II. THat type of tranny bridges the gap betweek auto and manual and no one has any complaints.

mbeebe

Sorry to burst your bubble but the RS4 does 0-100km/hr in 4.7 and is cheaper. And if you want to get technical the Audi LeMans car is much faster

Johann

I think the new S4 will be based on the 2.7V6TT, maybe up'd to 3.0V6TT.
The RS4 in Europe does 380HP already and I think the S4 will top out around 300, same as the new Volvo S60/V70R AWD with 300 HP.
Both cars are set for later this year or the beginning of next year.
The Audi's are way overpriced in Europe also but at least they are making some attractive models which can't be said from Honda with their sucky 4 cylinders only.
I used to be a Honda man but Honda screwed up big time in Europe.
The only 6 cylinders are with the US Accord coupe and the Legend which are both non selling models.
Now the diesels are very popular and these things really scream nowadays.
Whenever driving on the autobahn at speed around 125 mph the diesels are all behind, above and in front.
Those stupid VW turbo diesel vans are doing 100mph easy!

KavexTrax

M5 eat your heart out!

love the paddles idea...

Beltfed

I would get this car in a minute over an M5, totally crazy looking. My brother has an A6 2.7T and thats fun, I can just imagine how much fun this car would be.

Anyway, the current 5 series styling is beyond played out IMO.

JRock

$75k? Talk about over-priced.

You're right - an M5 is a better purchase for that money.

But hey, if they can sell them at $75k, why not sell them at $75? :-\

The only way good cars will become affordable again is if everyone refused to pay over-the-top prices for them. Alas, a few people have enough money to not care how much it costs and so the manufacturer can find enough buyers to justify the high price.

That RS6 should be a $50k car. Then again, the M5 should only be around $55-60k.

Beltfed

They should be and the CL-S should be $19k

CL-Super

WOW!!! all that power in an AWD

gavriil

OK here is the article:

Audi is set to unleash the world's most powerful executive car when it launches the potent new RS6, Auto Express can exclusively reveal. And that means the BMW M5 and Mercedes AMG E55 will be the big rivals of the 440bhp flagship addition to the forthcoming new A6 range.
The RS6 is powered by a turbocharged edition of the 4.2-litre engine that's fitted to the S6. It's expected the awesome new machine will cost as much as £65,000 when it arrives in the UK, and will be available as a saloon as well as an Avant. To ensure the RS6 is every bit as sure-footed as its rivals, it will use Audi's famed 'quattro' four-wheel-drive system. Power will be delivered through the firm's Tiptronic gearchange system which will feature steering wheel mounted control buttons, adding to the car's sporting feel.

It's thought the German firm has chosen not to use a manual gearbox, because it would not suit the character of the car. Capable of sprinting from 0-60mph in Porsche 911 Turbo-rivalling 4.7 seconds, the RS6's top speed will be limited to 155mph. Without restrictions the car could reach 180mph. Tipping the scales at 1,900kg, it is far from a lightweight sprinter, but it's thought the machine's long-distance cruising ability will be second to none.

Fans of the 380bhp RS4 will inst-antly recognise some of the styling cues of the new RS6. Not only does it have the same 18-inch wheels shod with 255/35 ZR18 tyres as its A4-based brother, but it also uses similar front and rear spoilers and the now familiar red and silver RS badging. Inside, carbon fibre and sports bucket seats add a dash of sportiness to the luxurious interior. Drivers can specify satellite navigation, in-car television and phone systems, but expect leather and alcantara trimmed power-assisted seats, electric windows and a CD player as standard. Even though Audi is understandably excited about its RS6, don't think that the company has forgotten about the rest of the range. Before the new RS6 hits the streets, an entire new raft of A6s will arrive here in less than 18 months.

Styling has been taken from the A4, notably the more squared off and angular rear lamps and reworked valance. Changes to the cabin area include redesigned dials for the stereo, and chrome-ringed instruments.

Nashua_Night_Hawk

why we do not have the 380 HP RS4 in the US?

JRock

Nope, $28k would be a proper price for the CL/TL Type S. (Compared to the ~$33k they are now.)

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...=99#post691736

JRock

Because we're the USA - we think we're the shit, but all the other countries just quietly laugh at us and keep the cool versions of their cars for themselves and each other.

Thank our wonderful SMOG and CARB legislation, etc.

gavriil

Cos it would not sell well.

JRock

Only because they would over-price it.

gavriil

A company does just overprice a product. A limited production RS4 would be way too expensive for our market. Americans that want to spend a lot of money in cars prefer to buy brand name. If they are going to spend $65K-$70K on a sports car, why get a wagon and not get a 911. "At least it is a Porsche" (is the thinking).

The other (more important reason) is that Americans are less keen on buying sports cars due to the fact that sports cars usually have less room. Americans love SUVs and trucks. If they are going to buy a commuter, they will be an Accord or a Camry.

Of course the RS4 does have more room than an Accord but it is a wagon.

Red Nj-s

I love to say this, but BMW and Merc are gonna kill that i believe. The new E55 and M5's will probably wreck that. The M5 has 400hp already..it wouldnt be hard to raise that to 500. Mercedes already showed they can play big with the new SL55. Gotta love horsepower wars. The best is Infinity/ Nissan, and Honda/Acura.

JRock

Exactly why a $74k RS6 would be overpriced. It'd be out of its league. Try $50k (which gives a better ratio of moneyspent:whatyougetforyourmoney) and see how it sells.

Beltfed

You are all missing the point that these are limited production cars....they aren't meant to appeal to several thousand people a year, Audi imports only 400 S8's a year. When you are talking high end limited cars.....RS6/RS4, E55/S55/CLK55/, M5/Z8 etc, the whole idea of "value" goes out the window.

Audi is like BMW, they provide less product than the demand warrants....this is why you can generally never find the exact combo of options/colors you are looking for on the desirable models (they usually have to be factory orders).

If Audi brings the RS6 here at $75k, it would most likely only be 400 cars tops.....trust me, they sell every last one of them.

AztecRol

iTrader: (2)

If I win the Lotto tonight, I will buy one right after I buy my Skyline GT-R!!!!!!

gavriil

I agree, but then the questions is: Why do they make it available in Europe?

gavriil

So why does not Audi bring the RS4 here?

astro

because station wagons don't appeal to many people....you see not many 5 series or MB wagons on the road as it is...
a performance one would not sell.

Volvokindaguy

Hey..I didn't know you come on this board, too.

Johann

This is all your fault!

:P

Read about it on Swedespeed and it is fun here.

Thanks!