3.7 Manifold on CL-P. Possible?
05-01-2013, 11:25 AM
#2
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Interesting question. I'd assume the only way to get some sort of an answer would be to compare the area where the intake manifold mounts to the motor. Get schematics on CL-P & CL-S to compare them.
05-01-2013, 01:15 PM
#3
All motor
2 throttle bodies? Wut?
I'm almost positive it's been done before by "e30cabrio." I doubt the bolts holding the intake manifold are any different on the CL-p than the CL-s, probably just a bit different internally, leading me to believe it would be a direct bolt on like it is for the Type S. If you were to do it, I'd recommend porting the lower runners though; they might be smaller on the P.
I'm almost positive it's been done before by "e30cabrio." I doubt the bolts holding the intake manifold are any different on the CL-p than the CL-s, probably just a bit different internally, leading me to believe it would be a direct bolt on like it is for the Type S. If you were to do it, I'd recommend porting the lower runners though; they might be smaller on the P.
05-01-2013, 04:00 PM
#4
I believe he's talking about the j32a2 setup with the two TB's (one primary for engine and secondary for traction control) but on the j37, there's one TB...atleast from the factory anyways. If you plan on using the j37 intake (which WILL fit) on your j32a1, you will need to find an adapter like the ones P2R sells in order to use another 1st gen (or original a1) TB on it. This is because the j32a1 and a2 have different flanges from the j37 DBW throttle body. Also, look into the Blox 76mm throttle body for the j37 manifold. With some minor mods, you can greatly improve airflow by these mods plus headers alone.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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Sonnick (05-02-2013)
05-01-2013, 04:34 PM
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Yes it will work, I actually had it on my tl-p but couldn't get it to idle correctly because of the garbage p2r adapter. I'm waiting on another adapter to be made then I will put it back on the car. Sonnick is right the tl-p runners are small. I upgraded to type s runners and had them ported and polished. Just that alone made a big difference. I agree with youngone501 on the blox throttle body, if you don't mind losing cruise control it would be a great combination.
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Sonnick (05-02-2013)
05-02-2013, 08:44 AM
#6
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Allowing more air in is crucial on the J.
05-02-2013, 09:17 AM
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Yes it will work, I actually had it on my tl-p but couldn't get it to idle correctly because of the garbage p2r adapter. I'm waiting on another adapter to be made then I will put it back on the car. Sonnick is right the tl-p runners are small. I upgraded to type s runners and had them ported and polished. Just that alone made a big difference. I agree with youngone501 on the blox throttle body, if you don't mind losing cruise control it would be a great combination.
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05-02-2013, 04:15 PM
#10
Chapter Leader (Southeast Region)
Yes especially since we have the base engine. When I put the ported and polished runners on by themselves I noticed a big difference across the entire rpm range. I don't have a dyno or anything but it feels a little less than when I added headers on my car.
05-03-2013, 02:04 AM
#11
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I was able to get the CL-S intake manifold to work on my CL-P when I had it...I wouldn't be surprised if the 3.7 would fit with some finesse. Get er done...I want to see how it turns out.
05-04-2013, 07:46 AM
#14
Yes it will work, I actually had it on my tl-p but couldn't get it to idle correctly because of the garbage p2r adapter. I'm waiting on another adapter to be made then I will put it back on the car. Sonnick is right the tl-p runners are small. I upgraded to type s runners and had them ported and polished. Just that alone made a big difference. I agree with youngone501 on the blox throttle body, if you don't mind losing cruise control it would be a great combination.
05-04-2013, 10:24 AM
#15
Chapter Leader (Southeast Region)
In aftermarket throttle bodies the throttle wheel only has a spot for one cable not two like our stock throttle bodies. I have only seen one aftermarket throttle body that's for a k series that will allow you to keep cruise control. One member has been able to adapt the throttle wheel from our throttle body to a blox and mustang throttle body.
05-04-2013, 11:03 AM
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Burning Brakes
05-04-2013, 01:31 PM
#17
In aftermarket throttle bodies the throttle wheel only has a spot for one cable not two like our stock throttle bodies. I have only seen one aftermarket throttle body that's for a k series that will allow you to keep cruise control. One member has been able to adapt the throttle wheel from our throttle body to a blox and mustang throttle body.
05-14-2013, 07:54 PM
#18
Chapter Leader (Southeast Region)
Got my manifold on today and the car pulls much harder had to go back to the stock air tube with the cone filter because my aem intake tube was to long. Once I build my new intake built I imagine it will be much better.
05-15-2013, 06:32 AM
#19
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(keep the piece, you could always have it welded back on)
05-15-2013, 06:32 AM
#20
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Oh and 
05-15-2013, 08:45 AM
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Stephen00TL (05-15-2013)
05-15-2013, 07:59 PM
#26
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17160-RK2-A00 - Intake manifold -218.76 Oemacuraparts.com
17140-RK1-A01 - Intake manifold cover -165.70 Oemacuraparts.com
P2R throttle body adapter- 09 tl intake manifold to 2nd gen type s throttle body- 69.99 - throwdownperformance.com
( http://throwdownperformance.com/inde...oducts_id=1579 )
I got ported Type Lower manifold (you don't have to get that to make this work)
I got a Type s throttle body so it flows better.
16176-RK2-A00 - 09 tl throttle body gasket- .49 - oemacuraparts.com
16176-PGE-A01 - 03 tl type s Throttle body gasket-2.5- oemacuraparts.com
17105-P8E-A01 - intake manifold to runner gasket- 13.45 -oemacuraparts.com
17055-P8E-A01 & 17065-P8E-A01- lower runner/ manifold gasket- 2X 10.86- oemacuraparts.com
90104-RCJ-A00- Two bolts to you need need for manifold swap- 2.01- oemacuraparts.com
I think that's everything I needed
17140-RK1-A01 - Intake manifold cover -165.70 Oemacuraparts.com
P2R throttle body adapter- 09 tl intake manifold to 2nd gen type s throttle body- 69.99 - throwdownperformance.com
( http://throwdownperformance.com/inde...oducts_id=1579 )
I got ported Type Lower manifold (you don't have to get that to make this work)
I got a Type s throttle body so it flows better.
16176-RK2-A00 - 09 tl throttle body gasket- .49 - oemacuraparts.com
16176-PGE-A01 - 03 tl type s Throttle body gasket-2.5- oemacuraparts.com
17105-P8E-A01 - intake manifold to runner gasket- 13.45 -oemacuraparts.com
17055-P8E-A01 & 17065-P8E-A01- lower runner/ manifold gasket- 2X 10.86- oemacuraparts.com
90104-RCJ-A00- Two bolts to you need need for manifold swap- 2.01- oemacuraparts.com
I think that's everything I needed
05-15-2013, 08:44 PM
#27
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This is from another tread I created. You also need to studs and bolts that connect the upper manifold to lower manifold from the type s model. I had a few miscellaneous items like a few longer bolts for custom adapter and extra hose which was like another 20$ or so. I didn't use the p2r adapter because icouldnt get it to idle correctly. I will sell it to anybody that wants to try to get it work but I gave up on it. The new adapter is 1,000 times better and I can upgrade to a larger throttle body later
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Stephen00TL (05-15-2013)
05-16-2013, 11:22 AM
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yes yes and yes ... dyno numbers arent good for racing...1/4 times are ....my dyno was on a mustang dyno ...brands like dyno jet read higher ... dynos are supposed to be tuning devices not pissing contest winners ... anyway i drive passed trinity about every night on the way to the poker room ...
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