Hello all, long time no see.

Excuse me if this has been posted before, but it has been awile since I have read a post

I just wanted to post what I just heard from my contact at Honda.
The new 03 CLS is the fastest production Honda except for the NSX. They had to really lower the gears on the CLS cause it was ripping out motor mounts and peeling out in every gear. Horsepower is around 300hp.

 

Is this a joke??

 

awe tim don't tell me that becuase if it is the case I am going to have sell the '01 and take all the money i was saving for mods, which i was going to buy from you, and buy the '03.

 

uhhhh...let me be the first to call BS!!!

You got anything to back that up?

 

I think someone lied to you..... or you are smoking something good and didnt offer some to any of us!!!

 

alright, which one of you guys jacked Tim's account???

 

Did you read this in a article or something? I bet ShawnS is jumping up and down right now

 

What do you mean horsepower is around 300? Its being advertised as 260.

 

Acura revealed the 03 CL spec like 2 months ago,...
Is it the '05 Honda CL?...

 

If that is the case! bye bye to my CL right now!

 

Not saying that it is ... but if this is legit, perhaps this is the '05 model and this is why Kahn Man's buddy was asked to make a tranny capable of 290HP

The TL and CL will get another look from me in 32 months when my RSX-S lease is up for sure ...

 

Thats what I was told.
I am going to email this link, and try to get him to post here.

 

Interesting RUMOR this is......

Shawn S

 

Are these specs for the '03 or the '05? From you post it seems '03.

 

my HONDA contact suggests nothing of the sort is happening within the next 10 months Tim...

 

I've got a friend who has a buddy that works for Honda, and he has mentioned to me on several occassions that the CL/TL (possibly merger between the two lines??) are getting a serious re-design in a couple of years (2 or 3??).

If all of this lines up correctly, it appears that 05' may be the year for the redesign. Of course he wouldn't elaborate more on what he says (bastard!! )

I love my 01' and I don't think there are many more mods that Snook can provide me with (I think i've got pretty much everything that i've wanted )

-Johnny

 

My buddies, roommates, mothers, plumber has this father-in-law who knew Kevin Bacon’s pool guys, sisters neighbor and he said it will have 350 HP and 4WD in 2004.

OH YEA.....

Shawn S

 

Exactly . The rumor mill is getting ridiculous. The car has been released with 260 hp. Case closed. And oh yeah, in case anyone has not heard, it will have 6 spd close ratio manual tranny.

Buh Bye.

 

Shawn,

He was talking about the S4, the CL-S will have 450HP and be 6WD!

Seriously folks, can we kill this thread.

I went to the Chicago Auto Show on Sunday and saw an Aegean Blue 2003 CL-S on display.

Its exactly as has been described in the 100 previous posts. Minor cosmetic changes (which personally are not to my liking, especially the Rims which look like glossy cheap plastic and the plastic fill-ins for the missing Road Lamps!) are pretty much all you can expect. Somebody took the liberty of stealing the 6-speed shift knob and plate, so if you guys see any early photos of 2002 AT's that have been basterized into a 6-Speed, you know where the parts came from.

At the show they had an official release date of March 2002.

Lets move on to something new.

 

Just and FYI: Usually at car shows, everything that can be stolen will be taken out by the show people so that it does not get stolen. So thats prolly what happened in this case as well.

 

people tim ususaly don't bullshit and why would he waste his time and post here about it. well let not jump to conclusions and just wait until tim's friend from HONDA replies. okay?

 

I agree 100% except for the fact that Acura themselves already released the specs on the '03 CL-S and it's showing 260hp.....

 

Sometimes HP is downplayed by manufacturers due to insurance rates! :P

 

Hello?!? Hello?!?

Knock, knock is anybody there?

What didn't you all undersatnd from my earlier thread.


I was at the 2002 CHICAGO AUTO SHOW.
I went to the Acura display. There was an Aegean Blue 2003 Acura CL-S on display for all to play with!
I saw it.
I touched it.
I even fondled it (although I will deny that if anyone asks).
When I put my ear up against the engine it even whispered "260 Horses baby, take me for a ride!"

GET OVER IT!

 

you guys say what you want ...i believe it....hey junior show me where honda said it's 260...i even posted a week or two back something seems fishy not one commercial not one brocheure not one article with official acura numbers or testing equipment...yet the car is due on the lots in three weeks....

 

I feel like the guy in that Mitsubishi radio commercial. The one where he calls the Moron who wants a mini-SUV and gets into a discussion of things that are small? The one about the 0% financing....

"Is Zero smaller than 1?"
YES!

"Is it smaller than my friend Bob"
YES, ZERO IS SMALLER THAN BOB!

You guys are funny!

 

Hmmmm could this 300hp v6 monster be what Acura_Service was talking about when he mentioned that advertising slogan
"something wicked this way comes"???????????

IF it is indeed 300hp, then i will really have to consider dumping the '01 and getting the '03. I'm praying every night

 

Oh Jeez, I'm staying out of it this time around...

 

Hey Kahn Man were'nt you at the Auto Show last week?!?

Any thoughts?

 

There's the M3, AMG Merc's, the to be released S4 with around 300HP engine and early next year the S60R/V70R with 300HP/400NM/AWD.
Lexus promised a limited edition IS400/430 for Europe so who knows what their main US market might expect.
All these models are CL contenders so I wouldn't be surprised to see a souped up Type R with a lot of the current NSX technology.
Would be easy for Honda, hell they even could mount the S2000 drivetrain.

 

Yeah. My thoughts:

*They are advertising it at 260hp.
*The dealers have no information on a hp increase.

2003 CL Brochure

'Nuff said.

As for the information that I had a few months back that they were designing the clutch to 295hp, this still confuses me. The only thing I can say is that 295 was their peak hp that the clutch needed to handle.

As a side note:
I talked to McGrath Acura today. I trust the guy there because my family has bought 7 Acuras from him and he has no reason to lie or withhold information. He told me four things:

1. He has not heard anything about a hp increase, so he expects 260.
2. Expects pricing to be in the mid $32k range.
3. No delivery dates yet, just production dates.
4. McGrath has deposits on 8 so far which will sell for MSRP (TBD) plus destination, tax, title.

But, if the damn thing does turn out to be 295hp, remember where you heard it first.

 

Oh really……Check out my post from JANUARY EIGHTH.
That’s over a MONTH ago.

Shawn S
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...hlight=2003+CL

 

I'm really confused by all this speculation. For ex., I've heard that the engine on the current-discont. honda prelude is actualy underated by 22-25 hp at the crank. Someone said that Honda prob did this for Insurance reasons, i.e keep insurance prem. lower. My dad's friend who's been driving sticks for over 20 yrs has an 00 prelude 5speed, ran a 15.0 or 15.1 in the 1/4 stock. He showed me the time slip but i don't remember his trap speed. Anyways, that would mean that his 0-60 was b/w 6.8-7.0. The best mag time I ever saw was 0-60 in 7.2 (C&D or MT).

I don't think the 03 6speed will have more than 260hp, but remember there is no torque convertor and it weighs 65lbs less. Also, due to the helical LSD it actually won't be as bad as peeps here think in terms of launching it. Once u live w/ a stick, u'll learn how 2 launch it good in a matter of time. N E ways, "secret"
hp is always welcome

side note--- Mustang Cobra R is advertised w/349 hp but it actually makes that much power at the wheels!!!(i'm not tryna imply that the 03 cl will make 260hp @ the wheels)

 

To clarify, I mean that Acura specs will say that the CLS will have 260 hp, they def. will not change that humber, also honda doesn't upgrade models hp during their current model gen run, only when they r introduced

 

Not always. The 1990 and 1991 Integra had 130HP. They bumped it to 140 for 1992 and 1993. Redesign was in 1994 and I believe it kept the same 140HP.

 

and the current tl is a bump from 225...to 260..

 

again kohn man...notice how vague that brocheure is...its not even a brocheure its a tri fold panflet(sp?) 260 hp on typeS optional 6 speed manual on type s please...there should be three times that info on the manual alone...ive said this fro awhile and ill believe it untill the car hits the lots...acura is up to something

 

Well I (along with everyone else) have done more than enough speculating. I am not in the Honda Marketing Dept, so I don't know what their practice is regarding publishing hp. LET'S JUST WAIT AND SEE!

And you know what? I don't give a flying fvck. I have 33 more lease payments on the CL, 36 on the TL, two classic Fords and a free Ford Taurus from work. I don't need no stinkin' manual!!

 

One more question ... if they had a 300HP CL-S 6MT why would it be in Acura's benefit to keep it a secret? I think I am just biased cause I won't look at the CL (again) until the '05 comes out

 

one more...this is the most on par with what was posted here...the first year the NSX got its 6MT it went from 260 auto and 290 6mt same year mid production...sound fimiliar