i ran three 1/4 mile runs today and was pissed. all three runs i got 15.5 and a 91mph trap speed. i do have lots of car stereo stuff so do you guys thing that may be why i ran so slow? how much does weight effect time? how much do you think 100 pounds would slow the car down? damn 15.5 with headers exhaust and cai!

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*01' Silver cl type s
*comptech headers,exhaust,springs ,sways, koni shocks and aem cai
*alpine iva-c800, dva-5200(dvd player), nve-n851a(dvd nav), cha-s624(cd changer),audio control 3.1, focal 165k, focal 690hc, jl audio 500/1, jl audio 300/2, two jl audio 12w6, rockford 225a2, playstation 2.
*18 ssr gpo decoltes & brake upgrades on the way
*97 supra tt- 6 speed red w/black interior. intake, exhaust, turbo timer.

 

yeah, try removing the 2 12"s before you run again, that might help

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'01 Black/Tan CL-S w/ Navi & spoiler
AEM CAI
Comptech headers, springs & sway bars
Toyo Proxes T1-S 235/45ZR17 tires
15% tint, Infinity Perfect sub/PPI amp

'97 Acura Integra LS

"You don't need a shopping cart wing to go fast..."

 

what were your 60ft times? how heavy are your wheels? lose the system when racing.
100 lbs will cost you at least .1 second in the 1/4.

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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Got some stuff
14.302 @98.69 Carlsbad Raceway 4/29/01
My Car

PWs, YOU ARE NOT YOUR FREAKIN' POST COUNT!!

 

I dont think the system is everything. I ran with my system w/ just intake and ran a 14.8. Can you post your time slips?

Spiro

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Black/Black 2001 CL-S
Random Technology Cat
RED AEM CAI
APEXi V-AFC
Polarg M6 Roadlamps

 

MyComptechCLS,

Do you still have that EQ for sale? I never got a response from you.

Spiro

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Black/Black 2001 CL-S
Random Technology Cat
RED AEM CAI
APEXi V-AFC
Polarg M6 Roadlamps

 

100# on a 6cyl loses .25 sec what were your 60ft times and outside temp. & humidity?

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2001 acura type s
(red with nav nav)
web page of car
hometown.aol.com/vittallo/index.html

 

i don't think 100lbs is .25 closer to .1-.15

 

it might be your actuator

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'01 Black/Tan CL-S w/ Navi & spoiler
AEM CAI
Comptech headers, springs & sway bars
Toyo Proxes T1-S 235/45ZR17 tires
15% tint, Infinity Perfect sub/PPI amp

'97 Acura Integra LS

"You don't need a shopping cart wing to go fast..."

 

That sounds like what the problem is.



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Black/Black 2001 CL-S
Random Technology Cat
RED AEM CAI
APEXi V-AFC
Polarg M6 Roadlamps

 

my sytem is a little difficult to remove. i knew it might slow my car down but didnt think it would by that much. i will post my slip when i get a chance to scan it but let me warn you my reaction times are not great. what are the chances that it is my actuator? i remeber reading a post on this. how can i check if it is?

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*01' Silver cl type s
*comptech headers,exhaust,springs ,sways, koni shocks and aem cai
*alpine iva-c800, dva-5200(dvd player), nve-n851a(dvd nav), cha-s624(cd changer),audio control 3.1, focal 165k, focal 690hc, jl audio 500/1, jl audio 300/2, two jl audio 12w6, rockford 225a2, playstation 2.
*18 ssr gpo decoltes & brake upgrades on the way
*97 supra tt- 6 speed red w/black interior. intake, exhaust, turbo timer.

 

Spiroh i dont think i had an eq for sale but i was gonna sell someone my factory 6*9 cause they had blown theirs and i think i may have even talked about selling my stock rims when my new ones come in. and for the system not makeing much of a difference i had a little more down then just adding a sub box. i would guess that it added a 200 to 300 pounds. take a look at my pics.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...a=12976787&f=0

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*01' Silver cl type s
*comptech headers,exhaust,springs ,sways, koni shocks and aem cai
*alpine iva-c800, dva-5200(dvd player), nve-n851a(dvd nav), cha-s624(cd changer),audio control 3.1, focal 165k, focal 690hc, jl audio 500/1, jl audio 300/2, two jl audio 12w6, rockford 225a2, playstation 2.
*18 ssr gpo decoltes & brake upgrades on the way
*97 supra tt- 6 speed red w/black interior. intake, exhaust, turbo timer.

 

Very Nice install. It looks like it would be hard to remove the whole setup.

Spiro

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Black/Black 2001 CL-S
Random Technology Cat
RED AEM CAI
APEXi V-AFC
Polarg M6 Roadlamps

 

well i tried to scan my time slip but it wasnt coming up very well so i just list everything: 1/4 mile 15.5117
reaction time 1.0768
speed 1/4 mile 91.8022
60 ft 2.4365
330 ft 6.6945
it was pretty humid out when i ran and this morning i was driving around and it is less humid and the car felt much quicker. i also checked the actuator and it did rotate and made a click noise so i think that is working.

spiroh did that random tech cat help any?

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*01' Silver cl type s
*comptech headers,exhaust,springs ,sways, koni shocks and aem cai
*alpine iva-c800, dva-5200(dvd player), nve-n851a(dvd nav), cha-s624(cd changer),audio control 3.1, focal 165k, focal 690hc, jl audio 500/1, jl audio 300/2, two jl audio 12w6, rockford 225a2, playstation 2.
*18 ssr gpo decoltes & brake upgrades on the way
*97 supra tt- 6 speed red w/black interior. intake, exhaust, turbo timer.

 

1. Heavy wheels or how heavy are they?
2. How heavy are you?
2. How much does all the stereo stuff weigh?
3. What TEMP AND Humidity were you running.
4. Were your "hooking-up" or were you on a "slippery" track?

(From you location, the altitude is less than 1200 ft (yes/no)?)

Notes:

1. The wheels will cost you if the 18" wheels are heavy. And the wheel weight IS not like "static" weight -- it will hurt you big time.

2. If you are a "big" guy, you could easily add another 100 lbs to the car's total ballast.

3. The stereo components will not help. If most people can feel the difference between a full tank and near empty (100 lbs), it would make a difference.

4. High temp and high humidity will make even the best cars run real slow!

5. FWD already is loosing traction, if the track is "slick", you could really be hurt.


Here is a link to the NHRA -- there are some pages that you can play with. You can increase temp and weight, or decrease temp, weight, etc. Or you can plug in ETs and MPH and get HP and weight, or put in HP and weight and get ETs and MPH.

You might be interested and surprised at the results that you get with different inputs to the various pages.

BTW -- there is no "exact" answer on the wheel weight (rotation inertia and static weight) and on additional static weight (ballast) you have in the car. The calc stuff is making a number of assumptions, but it is good for "ballpark" figures.

good luck...

Here is the link, check the other pages listed on the left side of the target link's page (You can put in about 3700 lbs, 200 HP for stock CLS with a driver. The barometric standard pressure is 30 for the corrections page.)

http://www.prestage.com/carmath/

Sublinks from the above page:

http://www.prestage.com/carmath/calc_ETMPH.asp

http://www.prestage.com/carmath/calc...o_standard.asp



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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (50 lbs less than stock)
• Comptech headers & sways
• Silver AEM CAI
• 12 coats of Zaino magic
• Stainless Brake lines coming (Brembos?)
• V1 planned

 

thanks for the link. pretty neat site. i got my car weighed after running and it was 3900 with me in the car. how much hp at the wheels should i have with comptech headers, exhaust and aem cai.

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*01' Silver cl type s
*comptech headers,exhaust,springs ,sways, koni shocks and aem cai
*alpine iva-c800, dva-5200(dvd player), nve-n851a(dvd nav), cha-s624(cd changer),audio control 3.1, focal 165k, focal 690hc, jl audio 500/1, jl audio 300/2, two jl audio 12w6, rockford 225a2, playstation 2.
*18 ssr gpo decoltes & brake upgrades on the way
*97 supra tt- 6 speed red w/black interior. intake, exhaust, turbo timer.

 

Depending on the dyno, etc...

230-245 (There seems to be a lot of variation, depending on the dyno).

Look for Mike's dyno, he has the AEM CAI and the Comptech headers, and seems to have a very good dyno (you could use that for reference, and or search on dynos)

Good luck!




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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (50 lbs less than stock)
• Comptech headers & sways
• Silver AEM CAI
• 12 coats of Zaino magic
• Stainless Brake lines coming (Brembos?)
• V1 planned

 

The Random Cat is still being debated. I have to do another dyno to swee if its worth it or not. The place I went to did a shitty job on the dyno.

Spiro



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Black/Black 2001 CL-S
Random Technology Cat
RED AEM CAI
APEXi V-AFC
Polarg M6 Roadlamps

 

Did you check to see if your actuator is working?

Spiro

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Black/Black 2001 CL-S
Random Technology Cat
RED AEM CAI
APEXi V-AFC
Polarg M6 Roadlamps

 

Yea sounds like an actuator problem to me.. even if you tossed all of your excess weight and lost a half second (0.5 secs) that would mean a 15.0 sec 1/4 mile .. what you should be running stock and not if you have headers,exhaust, cai, etc.



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2001 Silver CL-S
DOM: 10/2000

 

Get the phat chic out of the back seat

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2001 Silver 3.2CLS
Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Polarg M-6 lamps, K&N filter #33-2178,
Comptech Headers, Sways, mufflers
Planning: SSR 17X7.5 GT1 Wheels, Brembo Brakes.

 

Weight is a killer in any type of racing. If you can't take you sound system out, then make sure at least you remove the spare tire, jack, floormats and any other crap you may have in there... and check that actuator.

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2001 Silver CL-S

 

Was VSA off???
if so, did you spin much?


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--> RUVZ
2001 3.2CL Type S - Satin Silver - Polarg M6 roadlamps, 35% tint
Coming VERY soon: Eibach Springs, AEM CAI, Brembo Rotors

 

my vsa was off and i did get a good launch. i think i my actautor is working. it rotated and made the click noise. i think it maybe the high humidity. im gonna run again this friday with a few friends. there gonna run a supra twin turbo and a clk 55. guess im gonna be the slow car.

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*01' Silver cl type s
*comptech headers,exhaust,springs ,sways, koni shocks and aem cai
*alpine iva-c800, dva-5200(dvd player), nve-n851a(dvd nav), cha-s624(cd changer),audio control 3.1, focal 165k, focal 690hc, jl audio 500/1, jl audio 300/2, two jl audio 12w6, rockford 225a2, playstation 2.
*18 ssr gpo decoltes & brake upgrades on the way
*97 supra tt- 6 speed red w/black interior. intake, exhaust, turbo timer.