o1s

Do the 04 and up tl's have the same tranny problems? If not, what are the differences in the design? Could this transmission replace the 01-03 tranny? Or is it incompatable with the ECU or anything else?

SatinSilverTypS

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the 04s and up do not have this issue. the design change that eliminated this is mainly with the clutch packs. the transmission is *not* compatible with the 01-03 trannies due to the drive by wire changes for the 3rd gen tl's. i believe there are some other bolt up issues as well. so unfortunately it's a no go.

there have been no noted failures of the latest revision to the 01-03 tranny released February 2005. granted it's early but we haven't seen any of the same rate of failures since people would drive off the dealer lot with new trannies and have them crap out a mile down the road.

there's also the dr. evil option, which i'm keeping my fingers crossed on because it may be a viable option for future one time only replacements.

SSTS

sob4681

What is that Dr. Evil option?

SatinSilverTypS

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dr. evil has taken to rebuilding the 5AT trannies for us. a group buy was held several months ago and a few guys got in. i haven't heard anything though since then so we don't really know how well they're holding up. we do know that AV6 (Serge) is running with the 4AT version on his S/C accord with a typeS engine. he's running 12s and uses the car as his daily driver currently with no issues. it's a little early to tell though since not too many people have the 5AT version and if they do they haven't racked up alot of miles yet. i'm sure it will come up with a search either here or in the A-TL section.

what i was getting at though is that it may prove to be an option for people who are outside the 100k warranty and do not wish to pay the dealer for a new tranny. time will tell....


SSTS

o1s

when i called dr. evil, i was quoted $2400 for a full rebuild including diff. rebuild and torque converter minus $250 shipping. i however have not heard anything about how much milage people with this transmission are putting on their cars. i put around 800-1000 miles per week on my car. i don't want to drop a huge pile of loot in this tranny if it has the same problems as the shitty acura rebuilds.

VinceBlkCLS

Naw I for one believe in the Dr. Evil tranny and for 2500 for a tranny thats going to last better then our original stock tranny and you know like SatinSilverTypS said its a option for anyone outside the 100k mark. I know there are a few AZ members here thats going to keep their car until it dies. I for one is one of them orrrrr unless I rack up some money to get a new M3 hahaha but AV6 has the Dr. Evil and is pushing a hella lot of power and his tranny is holding very well.

SatinSilverTypS

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yeah, Serge is making alot of power AND using the car as a daily driver now. the only thing is that he has a 4AT tranny, not a 5AT, and the internals are different. hence, why the 5AT is afflicted with the 3rd gear clutchpack issue and the 4AT isn't. ALTHOUGH, given that dr. evil can build a 4AT capable of running 12s, i would imagine the 5ATs he makes will hold. i will just bide my time and wait until the guys with 5AT orders report back.

o1s - it isn't a cheap option, although you'll pay as much or more for an acura rebuild. now if the 2/05 revision proves to work then the acura rebuild should be worth it, but like we said, it's a little early to tell. the initial signs are promising though. the other side of the coin though is that no aamco or transtek or whoever rebuild will last either since they use the same parts.

it's an unfortunate situation but the reality is just that we have to wait and hope there is a long term fix that will emerge fruitful. the real fix might be to transplant a 3rd gen engine and tranny into a 2nd gen body. who knows.

SSTS