03 cl-s 6mt
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03 cl-s 6mt
Hello everyone. I bought an 03 CL-S 6MT about 4-5 months ago. I have always had lifted trucks so as you can imagine I have many questions. I was on the "top ten" thread and got some good ideas but wanted to get some brand imput. I have already done a pspec shirt shifter, put on 06 TL wheels, tint, custom sub and amp rack enclosure with JL W6 and 500 amp, and small stuff liek pedals and shift knob. Now I am wanting to get into the bigger stuff...
SO with that being said here are the list of things I am going to do very soon so I need to get brand advice.
Brake rotors and pads
Lowering springs, would like to use stock shocks
Headers
Intake- was leaning toward comptech
Exhaust- comptech or magnaflow
Sway bars?
Pulley?
The help would be greatly appreciated.
SO with that being said here are the list of things I am going to do very soon so I need to get brand advice.
Brake rotors and pads
Lowering springs, would like to use stock shocks
Headers
Intake- was leaning toward comptech
Exhaust- comptech or magnaflow
Sway bars?
Pulley?
The help would be greatly appreciated.
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When lowering the car take it from nearly all of us that coil overs are the only way to go. With shorter springs and stock (regular length) shocks the ride becomes bouncy and handling worse. With coil overs all those problems are solved and the car will look great and ride good, you'll want to put on an Ingalls adjustable camber kit in the rear to straighten up the rear tires, that keeps them square to the pavement and keeps your good handling. I think the front end goes lower OK but can be fixed by just a front end alignment. Other may want to chime in here......
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When lowering the car take it from nearly all of us that coil overs are the only way to go. With shorter springs and stock (regular length) shocks the ride becomes bouncy and handling worse. With coil overs all those problems are solved and the car will look great and ride good, you'll want to put on an Ingalls adjustable camber kit in the rear to straighten up the rear tires, that keeps them square to the pavement and keeps your good handling. I think the front end goes lower OK but can be fixed by just a front end alignment. Other may want to chime in here......
nicely put.... i went with the ksport and im happy with the ride and the performance of the coils...
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Missing my
I thought the biggest difference between coilovers and springs/struts was the adjustability. I was planning to do Bilsteins and H&Rs very soon which is a pretty tried and true combo from my research on here. Am I wrong?
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Get the Option Racing pulley off of eBay if you arent running a stereo over 600 watts. Its $25 and just as good as the Unorthadox pulley. You will obviously need smaller belts with it. If you have a stereo over 600watts then get the stock size lightweight Unorthadox pulley.
The Comptech rear sway bar is decent. I have it, but if I were to do it over again Id get the Progress sway bar. Its thicker and adjustable. Pick up some Moog end links too. The stock end links are shit and the Moogs are greasable.
I dont suggest dropping the car on just springs. Your struts wont last very long.
Headers are tough to find for us 6 speeders. XS used to make them, but they have since ceased production. If you can find a used set of Comptech headers, jump on it. They sell for over $1k new but used you can get them anywhere from $300-700 depending on condition.
The Comptech Icebox is a great intake for an otherwise stock motor. Its quiet and yields the most power (on a stock motor though).
Since youve already done the PSpec short shifter (good choice BTW), Id suggest the Corsport aluminum shift cable bushings to tighten up the shifter feel some more. If you have a bit of notchiness Id suggest picking up some GM synchromesh tranny fluid.
Theres DIYs all over the place here. Searching can be a bit difficult, so I usually just use Google ( type "what youre searching for""acurazine" and that will get you posts on this site - dont forget the quotes). If you have any other questions that cant be answered in the FAQ or by searching, dont be afraid to ask. Post up some pics when you get a chance.
Get the Option Racing pulley off of eBay if you arent running a stereo over 600 watts. Its $25 and just as good as the Unorthadox pulley. You will obviously need smaller belts with it. If you have a stereo over 600watts then get the stock size lightweight Unorthadox pulley.
The Comptech rear sway bar is decent. I have it, but if I were to do it over again Id get the Progress sway bar. Its thicker and adjustable. Pick up some Moog end links too. The stock end links are shit and the Moogs are greasable.
I dont suggest dropping the car on just springs. Your struts wont last very long.
Headers are tough to find for us 6 speeders. XS used to make them, but they have since ceased production. If you can find a used set of Comptech headers, jump on it. They sell for over $1k new but used you can get them anywhere from $300-700 depending on condition.
The Comptech Icebox is a great intake for an otherwise stock motor. Its quiet and yields the most power (on a stock motor though).
Since youve already done the PSpec short shifter (good choice BTW), Id suggest the Corsport aluminum shift cable bushings to tighten up the shifter feel some more. If you have a bit of notchiness Id suggest picking up some GM synchromesh tranny fluid.
Theres DIYs all over the place here. Searching can be a bit difficult, so I usually just use Google ( type "what youre searching for""acurazine" and that will get you posts on this site - dont forget the quotes). If you have any other questions that cant be answered in the FAQ or by searching, dont be afraid to ask. Post up some pics when you get a chance.
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6mt swapped..smart
From first hand experience, I've been dropped on h&r sports and stock shocks/struts for the last 2 years without any problems AT ALL. I promise you it doesn't handle worse than stock... So I say why not? If they should blow, i'll most likely replace them with another stock set for <$50 and ride them out for another few years (that's if I even have the car for that long). It is THE best cost option for people like me who don't want to invest the cash in a full suspension for basically a mild drop. It also gives me tons of time to save for coil overs should I decide to go that route in the future
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TQ > MPG
I've been on H&R springs and Tokico Illumina's for 6 yrs and 100k with no problems. Yes it rides worse than stock, but it handles a ton better. I have no first hand experience with coilovers, but I couldnt justify the price and didnt need the adjustability.
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Im not saying dont get springs. What I am saying is dont mount them on the stock struts. Get some Tokicos like most are running.
If you are trying to slam the car, then get coilovers.
If you are trying to slam the car, then get coilovers.
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From first hand experience, I've been dropped on h&r sports and stock shocks/struts for the last 2 years without any problems AT ALL. I promise you it doesn't handle worse than stock... So I say why not? If they should blow, i'll most likely replace them with another stock set for <$50 and ride them out for another few years (that's if I even have the car for that long). It is THE best cost option for people like me who don't want to invest the cash in a full suspension for basically a mild drop. It also gives me tons of time to save for coil overs should I decide to go that route in the future![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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So what set up would u suggest for me if I am not looking to "slam it". I just want it lowered a little and would like to get something close to factory ride. Im doing this more for appearence than anything.
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TQ > MPG
I have H&R 51858 and they dropped the car ~ 1.5", but the 50103 are a little better fitment as they are designed for the TL's. The 51858 tends to be a little lower in the back than in the front because they are designed for the Accord, and if you have a spoiler or subs then the trunk can be a little lower than the front.
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6mt swapped..smart
Get some springs that range anywhere from 1.5"-1.8" drop. That is a decent drop and will make the car look great. If you stay within this range, roll on stock shocks. It takes like 3hrs tops to swap them out anyway SHOULD they blow (which if you are careful of how you drive, I don't think they will) and THEN will have to upgrade them. This is my daily driver, it rides, and looks great which is what I wanted. I'm not racing or auto-xing the car where I could justify the need for a more expensive setup (for now). If you're trying to save some money and this is you, I'd go that route.
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I have H&R 51858 and they dropped the car ~ 1.5", but the 50103 are a little better fitment as they are designed for the TL's. The 51858 tends to be a little lower in the back than in the front because they are designed for the Accord, and if you have a spoiler or subs then the trunk can be a little lower than the front.
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Last question before I order. Does anybody know anything about the neuspeed springs. Between the H&R and Neuspeed which would be better trying to stay as close as possible to factory ride.
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TQ > MPG
Def get the 50103 versus the Neuspeed if ride quality is a concern. Neither is going to ride exactly like stock, but the Neuspeed drop is 1.8/1.7 and the H&R is ~ 1.5", IIRC.
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If you keep the stereo under 600watts you should be fine.
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I do like the fiberglass work on the custom amp and sub mount! Any issues with overheating the amp after pushing it hard? Doesn't look like there's much air flow around the cooling fins.
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so phee you think these would fit ?
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