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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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When to replace tires?

At what point do I replace my tires. The tread is currently 4/32-5/32 depending on the tire. They have 37k miles on them now and aren't as good as they used to be.

What tire (stock size) do you guys recommend?
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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U.S. coins can be substituted for a tire tread depth gauge as tires wear to the critical final few 32nds of an inch of their remaining tread depth.
Place a penny into several tread grooves across the tire. If part of Lincoln's head is always covered by the tread, you have more than 2/32" of tread depth remaining.

Place a quarter into several tread grooves across the tire. If part of Washington's head is always covered by the tread, you have more than 4/32" of tread depth remaining.

Place a penny into several tread grooves across the tire. If the top of the Lincoln Memorial is always covered by the tread, you have more than 6/32" of tread depth remaining.

The Law
According to most states' laws, tires are legally worn out when they have worn down to 2/32" of remaining tread depth. To help warn drivers that their tires have reached that point, tires sold in North America are required to have indicators molded into their tread design called "wear bars" which run across their tread pattern from their outside shoulder to inside shoulder. Wear bars are designed to visually connect the elements of the tire's tread pattern and warn drivers when their tires no longer meet minimum tread depth requirements.

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However, as a tire wears it's important to realize that the tire's ability to perform in rain and snow will be reduced. With 2/32" of remaining tread depth, resistance to hydroplaning in the rain at highway speeds has been significantly reduced, and traction in snow has been virtually eliminated.

If rain and wet roads are a concern, you should consider replacing your tires when they reach approximately 4/32" of remaining tread depth. Since water can't be compressed, you need enough tread depth to allow rain to escape through the tire's grooves. If the water can't escape fast enough, your vehicle's tires will be forced to hydroplane (float) on top of the water, losing traction.

If snow covered roads are a concern, you should consider replacing your tires when they reach approximately 6/32" of remaining tread depth to maintain good mobility. You need more tread depth in snow because your tires need to compress the snow in their grooves and release it as the they roll. If there isn't sufficient tread depth, the "bites" of snow your tires can take on each revolution will be reduced to "nibbles," and your vehicle's traction and mobility will be sacrificed. Because tread depth is such an important element for snow traction, winter tires usually start with noticeably deeper tread depths than typical All-Season or summer tires. Some winter tires even have a second series of "wear bars" molded in their tread pattern indicating approximately 6/32" remaining tread depth to warn you when your tires no longer meet the desired tread depth.
Tire selection will depend on how you drive and whether or not you are going to go with a 93 load rated tire. For stock size tires I would probably go with a 91 load rated tire like the Bridgestone
Turanza LS-V
or Fuzion ZRi
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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Thanks for the reply. So I guess I better start thinking about new tires. Anyone else have suggestions as to which to buy(stock size)?
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Also, do you guys know of any websites that review tires? Other than tirerack.com.

I've searched but most sites are only trying to sell tires not rate them.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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1010tires

They are also a seller and provide ratings and you can read through their customer reviews just like tirerack.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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1010tires

They are also a seller and provide ratings and you can read through their customer reviews just like tirerack.
Thanks I'll check it out.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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I had to replace my fronts during the 30k service. Instead of going with the OEM Michelins (at $186 a pop) my mechanic found a decent Dunlop for $114 each mounted and balanced. The feel about the same but are a touch louder because of a pretty cool looking tread pattern.

They'll do fine until I upgrade to 18-inchers.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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My brother says..
"I can feel the car slipping on rainy days, i think it's time to change tires."
When I looked at the tires, the treads were non-existent.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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So has anyone figured out why the TSX comes with tires with such a high load rating?
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by STL
So has anyone figured out why the TSX comes with tires with such a high load rating?
The car isn't light and when you have 5 adults, luggage and a full tank of fuel its a LOT of weight. While a standard load tire could hold the weight it would generate a lot more heat and could become an issue regarding safety in extreme cases the rest of the time it would allow for a tire to wear longer and provide more predictable handling even when loaded.

I agree with who ever said Fuzion ZRi's and Bridgestone Turanza LS-V, I've run them both and at each price range they seem to offer a good value. The Potenza G009 are nice as well but if your going to spend that much just go for the gold with the Turanza's. I can't complain in any way about the turanza's and since they have Uni-t AQII even as they wear they seem to get better! I have around 5k miles on the turnaza's so far. Of course I don't recommend either for winter driving, there is no substitute for a winter tire in snow- but that's another question all together.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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Thanks everyone for the info. But I should have mentioned. I need all season tires.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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The Turanza claims to be an all-season tire, but it isn't great in the snow. IMO, very few "all season" tires are any good in any significant amount of snow. At least I've never found any that are. Maybe the Continental Extreme Contact http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes, but it does have a lower load rating and will not perform as well as tires with less snow capability.

Another possibility is the Yokohama V4s which is competitively priced and also claims to be an all-season tire, though my warning about all-season tires in the snow applies here has well.

I'll probably be going for the Turanzas before long. Really don't like the OEM tires.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by VeniceBeachTSX
The Turanza claims to be an all-season tire, but it isn't great in the snow. IMO, very few "all season" tires are any good in any significant amount of snow. At least I've never found any that are. Maybe the Continental Extreme Contact http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes, but it does have a lower load rating and will not perform as well as tires with less snow capability.

Another possibility is the Yokohama V4s which is competitively priced and also claims to be an all-season tire, though my warning about all-season tires in the snow applies here has well.

I'll probably be going for the Turanzas before long. Really don't like the OEM tires.

Look into the Nokian WR, the ONLY true all-weather tire offered in North America, and yes it is available in our size. I have run them on vehicles in the past/present with great success. It is my best seller I can go into the benefits of this tire if you would like, but look into it yourself first- its the real deal!
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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What about load rating. I see most tires are lower than the 93 rating of the oem's. How are toyo tires?

Tireguy - I went to nokian.com and they sound very good for wet and snow but they sound like snow tires. The site gives options for winter or summer tires I don't see them use the word all season.

I need tires mainly for dry and wet. We do get a good amount of snow here but when possible, my TSX will be in the garage during the snow.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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I take that back. I found I should have been on nokiantires.com which does show them as all seasons.

How much are the nokian's???
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by briny319
I take that back. I found I should have been on nokiantires.com which does show them as all seasons.

How much are the nokian's???

There are a few online dealers for them, however, I suggest contacting your local Nokian retailer- most of them are very well informed about there products. Lets face it nokian is not a familiar name brand for most people, so if your selling them there's a reason for it!
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