arch

Not sure which rear camber kit to get for the TSX. I ordered the Eibach Pro System from Tire Rack and was notified it would ship out May 20th. Just getting the parts together for the car so when I take delivery of the car I can start modding away.

I know SPC and Eibach are the same kits. I heard Ingalls are difficult to adjust. Im pretty much between the SPC and Ingalls, but dont know the difference.

If anyone has worked with both could enlighten me on this subject. If SPC is the way to go, I'll just get the Eibach version for brand loyalty and consistency on the suspension components.

LannyM

Comptech is also SPC.

Ingalls replaces two of the lower control arms, easy to install, maybe a little more time consuming to adjust but not hard.

After reading of rusting problems and leaky seals on SPC, I opted for Ingalls..........

ocara64

Ingalls offer the most adjustability, for the rear and the quality is top notch.

moda_way

Don't know if you searched yet, but here is the thread I started about my install. Ingalls give the necessary toe adjustment whereas SPC does not.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...t=21623&page=1

virtualbong

My alignment guy said the Ingalls were great and very easy to adjust. Max 15 min. to do the alignment.

Ingalls is the way to go if you install it yourself as well. Very simple install.

JTso

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FYI...
If you use the Ingalls, you would use the adjustment on the rear rod for toe. If you use the SPC, you would use the factory toe adjustment on the eccentric cam. Both kits accomplish the same common goal - camber. The SPC requires only two arms for both sides, whereas the Ingalls requires 4. The SPC requires a ball joint tool, whereas the Ingalls requires only simple hand tools. Adjustment is similar on both. They both require camber and toe adjustment after the installation.

arch

Thanks for all the comments guys. Now this is why I appreciate a TSX board with members like this. Looks like Im going with Ingalls.

Moda Way I saw your post a week or so back, great info! LannyM thanks for the warning about the SPC problems.

moda_way

True, but if you are lowering the car, I'm not sure the eccentric cam gives you enough adjustment and the Ingalls give you all that you need.

JTso

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Yes, the eccentric cam provides more than enough adjustments for the toe when I lowered with Eibach sportline and Neuspeed sport. I have used both the SPC and Ingalls kits. Spoon might be next.

kaikai114

SPC here, so far so good. Both toe and camber are adjusted to factory specs easily. Taking it in next week again to adjust rear camber to -0.5 to give the car more of a balance front to back.

-KC

MyK24a

whats the optimum camber settings for street use? I have yet to get a camber kit and running a -2 camber on the rear after using Espelir lowering springs

arch

Not sure what you meant by this. Two arms vs four, an extra mechanic or extra parts.

Ive decided to go with Ingalls. Glad to know they allow the camber and toe adjustment all in one. Decided to pick up a set on ebay for $139+ship =$149
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWN%3AIT

From what Ive read so far on the forums I dont need a front camber kit since the factory parts can adjust for camber?

JTso

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The SPC replaces the upper control arms (one on each side). The Ingalls replaces the lower links (two on each side).

There's no factory camber adjustment for the front, but lowering to 1.9" only change the camber by approx. -0.5 degree.

moda_way

Glad to hear!! That is a good price. I use importhorizon.com for a lot of parts too. Not sure if you live in a salt belt state (anywhere with a lot of snow) but when I went to install my ingalls, I found a little bit of penetrating oil when a long way... well that and my impact wrench. I couldn't imagine trying to get the top control arm off. Not much room for a wrench.

For those of you with SPCs on the rear, aside from needing a pickle fork, how difficult was it to get to the bolt on the inside of the arm?

JTso

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When I used to have the SPC, I don't remember any difficulty getting to the bolts. However, removing the bolts to the brake line supporting bracket and shift the bracket aside did help the installation process.

moda_way

I was looking at the bolts that are at the pivot point and attached to the body. They just looked like they were difficult to get to and being that I a bit of surface rust and henced, fairly locked up bolts, simply couldn't imagine getting those off. I had to cut one cat bolt off in doing my exhaust too.

gsclifton

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I have had the Ingallas REar Kit on for over a year with no issues. I did not need a kit for the front. I am using the Eibach Pro-Kit.

kaikai114

It depends on how low your drop is. I'm sitting on Eibach Prokit 1.6"F 1.4"R, front camber is -0.9 after drop. Naturally you'd want more negative camber in the front on a FWD to reduce understeer therefore keeping the car more balanced. Currently my car is at -0.9 front and -0.5 rear and I'm loving it so far.

-KC

xizor

Both accomplish the goal of aligning your system to spec, Ingalls has no downsides IMO while the SPC can a PITB (need ball joint remover, not built for toe adjustment, etc.). So just by ease of use I'd choose Ingalls.

joerockt

Link please...Im gonna guess this was another "chicken little" story...

arch

Exactly what Im about to go with! Can I ask what kind of shocks are you using? Next thing to do is find a set of 04/05 TL rims.

Does anyone know if the stock TSX 215/50/17 tire will work on the 17x8 TL tires or will I need to shop for a tire combo also?

kaikai114

TL rims is exactly what I did to my car. I had stock TL tires on those 17x8 rims though, stock tsx tires will be too narrow for the 8" TL rims. There are plenty of people selling their TL rims with stock tires. I'm still running on stock shocks, debating on if i should go with Konis, Eibach Prosystem or Tein Basics. Stock shocks are still riding very well to this day.

here is the link to some pics of my car with TL rims
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20901

-KC