Ride quality, 18's vs. 19's????
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Ride quality, 18's vs. 19's????
I've been looking for wheels since the day i bought my TSX and i just found one i really like but it's only listed in 19x8 +48 offset. I will be running the A spec suspension and 235/35R19's. Will there be much of a difference in ride 18" to 19"? Sorry for the noob question but i did a search and didn't come up with much.
Here's a link to the wheel... http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=8&bp=5-114.3
Here's a link to the wheel... http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=8&bp=5-114.3
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Originally Posted by JoeC1982
I've been looking for wheels since the day i bought my TSX and i just found one i really like but it's only listed in 19x8 +48 offset. I will be running the A spec suspension and 235/35R19's. Will there be much of a difference in ride 18" to 19"? Sorry for the noob question but i did a search and didn't come up with much.
Here's a link to the wheel... http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=8&bp=5-114.3
Here's a link to the wheel... http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=8&bp=5-114.3
That's a good looking rim. I almost bought the same rims. They do offer them in 18" as well if you're really concerned about ride quality.
Given your choice of A-spec suspension, the ride should be pretty decent even w/ 19s. However, since the A-spec won't lower your car as much, I would recommend going w/ the 18s as running 19s may make the car look somewhat raised since the A-spec won't get rid of enough of your wheel gap.
Discount Tire or any number of shops can order that rim for you in 18x8 +48.
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It also depends on the sidewall of the tire...
18's will give you a 40 series aspect ratio, whereas the 19 will give you 35. This applies only if you want to go with the same overall diameter of the stock tire, assuming you are going with 235 width.
18's will give you a 40 series aspect ratio, whereas the 19 will give you 35. This applies only if you want to go with the same overall diameter of the stock tire, assuming you are going with 235 width.
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If they can get them in 18x8 i'll go ahead and go that route. I think they will still look good and save me some money as well. Are you sure the 2 piece version is available in 18"? I saw the 1 piece in 18" but they don't look as good to me.
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If they can get them in 18x8 i'll go ahead and go that route. I think they will still look good and save me some money as well. Are you sure the 2 piece version is available in 18"? I saw the 1 piece in 18" but they don't look as good to me.
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According to discount tire they can't get the 2 piece in 18" anymore and they have no expected arrival date on the 19". Is there any other place that can get them?
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There's a member who posted pictures of his TSX w/ the charcoal gray version of that rim. I'm pretty sure he had 18s. It could've been 18x7.5 instead of 18x8. I think he ordered the rims from a Discount Tire store in Long Beach, CA. Anyone know the contact info for this store?
I suggest trying a different Discount Tire. They're available. The shop you went to is just too lazy to order it. Try calling Vic at Discount Tire in El Monte CA 888-568-2746. This is one of the vendors from importhookup.com. I'm positive he can order that rim for you. It will probably take a good 6-8 weeks to get.
vwong is right. No 18x8 +48, but they do offer 18x7.5 +42 or 18x7.5 +50 which should keep the rim from getting too close to the edge of the wheel well. 18x7.5 +50 w/235-40-18s should be a good set up that won't rub, will match the stock rolling diameter, and provide good rim protection and good ride quality.
I suggest trying a different Discount Tire. They're available. The shop you went to is just too lazy to order it. Try calling Vic at Discount Tire in El Monte CA 888-568-2746. This is one of the vendors from importhookup.com. I'm positive he can order that rim for you. It will probably take a good 6-8 weeks to get.
vwong is right. No 18x8 +48, but they do offer 18x7.5 +42 or 18x7.5 +50 which should keep the rim from getting too close to the edge of the wheel well. 18x7.5 +50 w/235-40-18s should be a good set up that won't rub, will match the stock rolling diameter, and provide good rim protection and good ride quality.
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Here's the link to Tsx3Pedal's thread. The rims look sick on his ride. He has the gunmetal.
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24583
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24583
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That's it Tsx536.
JoeC1982 - There's a couple of things making the rim look smaller. Any rim w/ a lip will look smaller than a rim with spokes that go out to the edge. I think the charcoal gray spokes also makes the rim look a bit small. Additionally, TSX 3Pedal's car was not lowered. This also makes the rim look small.
All in all though, I tend to agree with you that 19s would definitely look better. But, if you do that, I'd highly recommend getting some coilovers that will lower more than the A-spec. Try some Tein Basics. It's about $100 more than the A-spec, but you can set the height wherever you want.
Try calling Joe at the Discount Tire in Long Beach CA too at (562)429-2227.
JoeC1982 - There's a couple of things making the rim look smaller. Any rim w/ a lip will look smaller than a rim with spokes that go out to the edge. I think the charcoal gray spokes also makes the rim look a bit small. Additionally, TSX 3Pedal's car was not lowered. This also makes the rim look small.
All in all though, I tend to agree with you that 19s would definitely look better. But, if you do that, I'd highly recommend getting some coilovers that will lower more than the A-spec. Try some Tein Basics. It's about $100 more than the A-spec, but you can set the height wherever you want.
Try calling Joe at the Discount Tire in Long Beach CA too at (562)429-2227.
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I've already ordered the A spec and its low enough for my taste as long as i keep the same overall diameter of tire as factory. I think i may just get the RonJon's because i love the way they look in the silver finish on a silver car. Plus the price is right, they fit perfectly, and i get to support a member of the forum. Thanks for everybody's help so far, this is a great forum.
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Sorry for the newbie question, I don't know a lot about wheels.
Is there a noticeable ride difference between 17" and 18" wheels or between 17" and 19" wheels?.
What is the downside of larger wheels? I know that the upside is better looking wheels.
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Is there a noticeable ride difference between 17" and 18" wheels or between 17" and 19" wheels?.
What is the downside of larger wheels? I know that the upside is better looking wheels.
Thanks
Excited
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Larger wheels = lower profile tires...
lower profile tires = more expensive and less sidewall
less sidewall = less protection for your wheels
less protection = wheels more prone to curbing and hitting a pothole and bending the wheels
any other questions?
lower profile tires = more expensive and less sidewall
less sidewall = less protection for your wheels
less protection = wheels more prone to curbing and hitting a pothole and bending the wheels
any other questions?
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Excited... I have no experience with 19" wheels, so I can't comment on those... but in my opinion, the "downside" in ride quality between a 17" and 18" wheel really depends on 1) the weight of your wheels, and 2) the type of tires you're running. Heavier wheels will affect ride quality negatively because the suspension has to work harder to dampen the bumps. This usually isn't a big problem as practically all decent aftermarket wheels weigh less than or the same as our OEM wheels.
Now with respect to tires... there aren't many touring tires past the 17" diameter (as far as sedans go)... you're looking at purely performance oriented rubber. Any time you plus-size your wheel/tire setup, you're reducing the sidewall. Tire manufacturers stiffen the sidewall to compensate for this reduction. Stiffer sidewalls increase handling response, and provide some stability when traveling at high speeds. As a result, however, you'll feel more of the undulations in the roads you travel through the steering wheel and chassis. Additionally, the wider the tire you use, the more prone to tramlining you are. Think of it like this: the more grip your tires have, the more "information" from the road you'll feel. In my opinion, the difference is noticeable. Whether or not the difference is uncomfortable is really subjective. Personally, I prefer a slightly stiffer ride because I feel more "connected" to the road.
Now with respect to tires... there aren't many touring tires past the 17" diameter (as far as sedans go)... you're looking at purely performance oriented rubber. Any time you plus-size your wheel/tire setup, you're reducing the sidewall. Tire manufacturers stiffen the sidewall to compensate for this reduction. Stiffer sidewalls increase handling response, and provide some stability when traveling at high speeds. As a result, however, you'll feel more of the undulations in the roads you travel through the steering wheel and chassis. Additionally, the wider the tire you use, the more prone to tramlining you are. Think of it like this: the more grip your tires have, the more "information" from the road you'll feel. In my opinion, the difference is noticeable. Whether or not the difference is uncomfortable is really subjective. Personally, I prefer a slightly stiffer ride because I feel more "connected" to the road.
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Originally Posted by excited
What is the downside of larger wheels? I know that the upside is better looking wheels.
Thanks
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Thanks for the info. I may want to lean towards regular tires and 17" wheels.
Anyone have experience with this wheel:
http://www.motegiracing.com/applicat...Comments=None#
or this wheel? http://www.motegiracing.com/applicat...&Comments=None
Is the size the right fit?
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Anyone have experience with this wheel:
http://www.motegiracing.com/applicat...Comments=None#
or this wheel? http://www.motegiracing.com/applicat...&Comments=None
Is the size the right fit?
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Originally Posted by evo_to_tsx
Your in depth description might sound good and all, amadeus, but I dont think u have answered excited's questions regarding downside.
Originally Posted by amadeus303
Heavier wheels will affect ride quality negatively because the suspension has to work harder to dampen the bumps.
As a result, however, you'll feel more of the undulations in the roads you travel through the steering wheel and chassis. Additionally, the wider the tire you use, the more prone to tramlining you are.
As a result, however, you'll feel more of the undulations in the roads you travel through the steering wheel and chassis. Additionally, the wider the tire you use, the more prone to tramlining you are.
Any questions?
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excited had two questions and I think you guys together have answered both. evo_to_tsx addressed the downside of "larger wheels" but not "ride quality" and amadeus303 addressed "ride quality" but not "larger wheels". That's the beauty of combining resources and knowledge.
Additionaly, the size of the wheels alone won't tell you how well the end result would be. You also need to consider the type of wheels, material the wheels are made of, the weight, width and offset. Also, the size of the tires, the material used to manufacture the tires, and tread patterns can greatly affect ride quality, handling and noise.
Additionaly, the size of the wheels alone won't tell you how well the end result would be. You also need to consider the type of wheels, material the wheels are made of, the weight, width and offset. Also, the size of the tires, the material used to manufacture the tires, and tread patterns can greatly affect ride quality, handling and noise.
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Thanks for your help. I went out and purchased Montegi 17" RT5's.
They definitely aren't the best looking wheel and not the most exciting wheel (not an 18"/19"/20") but they will be one of the better looking WINTER wheels. I am going to put my winter tires on this wheel. The logic being is that it will be a lot cheaper to replace this wheel if damaged by a winter pothole than the OEM's. Secondly winter here lasts a long time and winter tires can be on a good five months. I still want to look good for those five months.
This is the wheel that I purchased: http://www.motegiracing.com/wheels/d...yle=2023&desc=
Now I just need my 06 TSX to arrive!
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ps I got a great price on them, almost 2/3's off.
They definitely aren't the best looking wheel and not the most exciting wheel (not an 18"/19"/20") but they will be one of the better looking WINTER wheels. I am going to put my winter tires on this wheel. The logic being is that it will be a lot cheaper to replace this wheel if damaged by a winter pothole than the OEM's. Secondly winter here lasts a long time and winter tires can be on a good five months. I still want to look good for those five months.
This is the wheel that I purchased: http://www.motegiracing.com/wheels/d...yle=2023&desc=
Now I just need my 06 TSX to arrive!
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ps I got a great price on them, almost 2/3's off.
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I picked up the Montegi RT5 wheels and the Michelin tires today. It's seems kind of funny to have them, but no vehicle to put them on for about 2.5 months.
Not knowing a lot about wheels and tires it makes you wonder if the sizes are correct, but they seem to be.
Wheels 5x100\5x4.5 +42mm offset
Tires Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2 - P225/45R17
Do these measurements seem right?
They filled the tires with nitrogen.
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Not knowing a lot about wheels and tires it makes you wonder if the sizes are correct, but they seem to be.
Wheels 5x100\5x4.5 +42mm offset
Tires Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2 - P225/45R17
Do these measurements seem right?
They filled the tires with nitrogen.
Thanks
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Excited... you're fine with those specs. The TSX bolt pattern is 5x114.3 (or 5x4.5 in the dual bolt pattern Motegi wheel you selected). The +42mm offset should be okay with the 225-45-17 tires, especially since you won't be lowered. The stock TSX wheel's offset is +55mm. The tire size you selected is slightly smaller than stock diameter, but WELL within acceptable tolerances (within 2%). Congrats on your purchase... having those wheels will make waiting for your car that much harder!
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Originally Posted by amadeus303
Excited... you're fine with those specs. The TSX bolt pattern is 5x114.3 (or 5x4.5 in the dual bolt pattern Motegi wheel you selected). The +42mm offset should be okay with the 225-45-17 tires, especially since you won't be lowered. The stock TSX wheel's offset is +55mm. The tire size you selected is slightly smaller than stock diameter, but WELL within acceptable tolerances (within 2%). Congrats on your purchase... having those wheels will make waiting for your car that much harder!
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question. What does the difference in the offset between the +42mm offset of the Montegi wheel versus the +55 of the OEM wheel make? I guess what I am asking is what does offset do and what advantages or disadvantages are there to a smaller or greater offset?
Are the Michelin winter tires at 225-45-17 wider and shorter than the OEM wheels at 215-50-17?
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Are the Michelin winter tires at 225-45-17 wider and shorter than the OEM wheels at 215-50-17?
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Here's the link to Tsx3Pedal's thread. The rims look sick on his ride. He has the gunmetal.
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24583
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24583
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My wheels are holding up great! It's just my tires that are worn out so I'm currently running on my stock wheels until I can afford to buy a new set of ES100's. I actually got very good mileage from the ES100's, approximately 35,000 Miles until the indicator bars.
As for your MR TSX with the silver G Games, I think it will look great. What size will you be getting, 18's or 19's. Since these wheels have a lip, they create an illusion that makes the wheels look smaller than they really are, be ready for that.
Good Luck!
As for your MR TSX with the silver G Games, I think it will look great. What size will you be getting, 18's or 19's. Since these wheels have a lip, they create an illusion that makes the wheels look smaller than they really are, be ready for that.
Good Luck!