coujac

I recently installed Neuspeed sport springs w/ 1.0 rear - 1.5 front drop. I have read alot on all the sites about camber and no one seems to be installing camber kits. I took the car to the alignment shop and the reults were as follows:
front left range -0.8deg 0.8deg actual 0.7deg
front right range -0.8deg 0.8deg actual -1.0deg

rear right range -1.5deg -0.5deg actual -3.1deg
left rear range -1.5deg -0.5deg actual -1.6deg

The right rear is way out. I called neuspeed and they said it could be that way. I ordered the rear camber kits ingalls part #38725 from www.ultrarev.com The ingalls kit is two links that allow you to adjust camber and toe. Comptech offers the link to only adjust camber. Right now comptech offers the adjustable ball joint for the front adjustment. Ingalls still does not offer front adjustment. I am ordering the ball joints thru my local supplier.

dabuda

i got the neuspeed springs too...after i got them installed i took my tsx to the dealership to do the alignment (alignment shops didnt have 2004 data yet). they said they had to adjust the rear but that i didnt need a camber kit...

coujac

I was hoping that I didn't need the kits as well. With the right rear being so far out I'm just goiing to put the kits all the way around and adjust everything to spec's. The mechanic's said that if I drove the car the way it is now the right tire would wear very, very quickly.

dabuda

the mechanic meant both right tires or just the right rear? i havent put that many miles on my current tires so i wouldnt be able to tell the diff...but after i got it aligned it seem ok since it didn't drift to the right. but now i'm thinking about taking it to a alignment shop to get a 2nd opinion

coujac

He said that the right rear would wear very quickly because of the degrees it is out. the other wheels are so close that they would not wear as fast. I want the car to be right so i'm going for the kits.

cmf

I think a little negative camber is good, especially for good traction. You don't have a whole lot of neg. camber on that side, and your curent stock set-up should have enough room for adjustment to give you just the right amount of neg. camber.
As far as tire wear, if you rotate your tires regularly, especially with little neg. camber, your tires won't wear any faster than the regular stock setup.

coujac

I SPOKE WITH TECH SUPPORT FROM NEUSPEED, INGALLS, AND COMPTECH. THE CAMBER SHOULD BE -1.0 DEG ON THE REARS AND 0 DEG ON THE FRONT TO BE FACTORY SPECS. -3.1 DEG IS ALOT AND THE TIRE WOULD NOT HOLD UP FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. THERE IS NO CAMBER ADJUSTMENT ON THE STOCK SETUP SO A CAMBER KIT IS A MUST FOR ME. I WISH IT WASN'T IT'S GETTING QUITE EXPENSIVE.

97AcuraCL

really ? courtesy is that kewl with mods? Fountain didnt' wanna touch my CL due to my neuspeed springs.

97AcuraCL

how much wer the ingals kits?

accsuperstar

i think they are running a special at right now for 131.90 + shipping

http:// .com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1085

TinkySD

i have the comptech springs and camber kit sitting in my living room. I'll probably install it at some point

97AcuraCL

is the camber just for the rear or the front as well?

JTso

iTrader: (2)

Please post pics of your Ingalls kit when they arrived.

coujac

JTso, i installed the camber kits and have photos. Can I send them to you. I can't post them on the site.

JTso

iTrader: (2)

Sure, send them to johnnytso@sprynet.com

accsuperstar

photos to accsuperstar@hotmail.com also!

and i will host them so everyone else can see

JTso

iTrader: (2)

coujac's camber kits. Front is SPC, rear is Ingalls. The rear Ingalls kit does offer good adjustment for camber and toe.

coujac

Thanks JT for posting the pictures. I did the install myself. The rear links were very easy. I adjusted the length of the new links to the stock link when I reinstalled. I will let the alignment tech adjust the toe and camber. I recieved 2 kits - one set per side from ultrarev.com for $132.00. Basically right now they are selling them 2 for 1. To remove the ball joints you need a ball joint press. The press does not fit in the wheel well so you have to remove the control arm then remove the ball joint. Installing the new ball joint was easy and again I will let the tech adjust the joint properly.

tsxtypes

Thanks for pics and info
I just ordered a set from ultrarev.com how is their shipping speed?

price is very good I paid $132 for both when ingalls sells them for $132 each side.

coujac

I had them shipped two day air from Ingalls direct.

tsxtypes

I ordered overnight came in few mins ago. Great company to deal with.

jdm_ack

Are the camber kits ez to self-install?

JRock

Btw, -3.1 camber should be easily visible to the eyes - your right rear wheel and tire should have looked like it was leaning against the side of the car.

xizor

i was asking this question myself, I think its just a bolt on and not hard to do after letting the springs sit.

JTso

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It depends on the design of the camber kit. If you are using the Ingalls rear kit, then it should be a simple bolt on. However, if you are using the SPC front and rear kits, then you may need a ball joint removal tool.

kaikai114

Jtso, would you mind posting a picture of the "ball joint removal tool"? thanks!

JTso

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Front:



Rear: The rear is a Honda factory tool.

virtualbong

Thanks for posting this stuff up guys. I'm going to purchase the Rear Ingalls Camber Kit since everyone says that its easy to install. Now the question is should I go with used Manual A-Spec suspension for $400 shipped (I have an auto) or should I go with the new Eibach Pro-System Kit from Tirerack for $500? What do you guys think?

kaikai114

It really comes down to how low you want to drop. Both the A-Spec and Prosystem won't allow you to adjust the shocks like Koni Yellows, so only difference is the drop. I'm "guessing" that Prosystem will be stiffer than A-Spec kit because Prosystem is geared for performance while A-Spec is still geared for comfort with added performance. If you get the A-Spec kit installed by a dealer, they most likely will honor the warranty. If you go with Prosystem, you're on your own. In my opinion, warranties don't really do jack for new cars. I don't think dealers will be warranting any cars if they're not at least 99% sure that the car will most likely not have a problem. I personally will go with Eibach Prosystem as a package

-K

virtualbong

The only way that the warranty will be void is if the aftermarket suspension caused the issue. If the suspension had nothing to do with whatever I bring it in to get serviced, then I should be ok. I love the Eibach drop, so I'm leaning towards that. I don't need something that is adjustable so this works for me.

virtualbong

Well, its a done deal. Just purchased the Rear Ingalls Camber Kit from Ultrarev.com. The total shipped was $147.01. Now its time to make my suspension decision...

xizor

the install on the eibachs will be harder b/c it looks like you have to disassemble the stock spring/strut.

AlterZgo

I don't think you could go wrong w/ either set up. With that said, get the Pro-System so you can give us a full write up/review on it.

Eibach definitely makes high quality stuff.

virtualbong

First off Xizor, the Eibach will definitely be tougher, but thank God I've used a spring compressor before on my integra and my bro's WRX, so I'm not too afraid of the install, it'll just take more time than if I got the A-Spec plug and play style.

And AlterZgo, I will definitely try to remember to do a writeup if I were to get the Eibach Pro-System Kit. I don't have that much experience with suspension though since I only have experience with goldline springs with stock shocks on my integra. I'll also try to do a write up with pics when I install everything. This probably won't happen for a month or so though considering I don't have the car yet.