A little Observation
#1
A little Observation
Hey guys...so after reading quite a bit in this forum, i keep hearing that +35 offsets dont work with our cars. But a weird thing I discovered was in Kazumoto's ADR M-Sport 19x8.5 wheels, they can be found on the first page in the wheel gallery. I searched through the archives and found some posts by Kazumoto, and he is unsure of his offset, he specified that he "believes the offset is 40," yet his wheels fit perfectly and dont hit his fenders. I went ADR's sight and looked up the M-sports, and for the 19 inch rims, they dont make them with any other offset but 35. So apparently, Kazumoto's wheels are 19x8.5 and have a 35 offset. Just a little observation to disprove some people that such wide wheels with that offset could work with the tsx.
#4
Check out vwong's post. vwong has the same size tires but with +40 offset and lowered 2.25". He had to modify the front liner slightly to prevent rubbing.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...674#post289674
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...674#post289674
#5
there is a difference between fitting and fitting right. Both dzuy and vwong have had rubbing issues with aggresive drops on 19x8 wheels with +42 and +40 offsets. projectsx also has 19x8.5 and +35 and says he had no rubbing issues but without a big drop. 19x8.5 +35 is low of an offset, I think it doesn't look very good w/ the wheel nearly out of the fender. if you want wheels that fit right stick between +40 and up.
#6
It also depends on the brand/type of tires being used with the wheels. When I had Yoko ES100 235 tires with +45 offset on 8" wide rims, the sidewall of the tire was sticking out 5mm past the front fender. It was measured with a straight edge against the side of the fender dropping down to the side of the tire. The car wasn't even lowered back then. If the car is lowered to a certain point without the camber kit, the negative camber tend to fit the tires in a little better at the expense of tire wear.
#7
Originally Posted by xizor
there is a difference between fitting and fitting right. Both dzuy and vwong have had rubbing issues with aggresive drops on 19x8 wheels with +42 and +40 offsets. projectsx also has 19x8.5 and +35 and says he had no rubbing issues but without a big drop. 19x8.5 +35 is low of an offset, I think it doesn't look very good w/ the wheel nearly out of the fender. if you want wheels that fit right stick between +40 and up.
8.5 is hella wide too - i bet if he dropped it as much as vwong or i did he couldnt even turn the wheel w/o rubbing.
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#8
Originally Posted by JTso
It also depends on the brand/type of tires being used with the wheels. When I had Yoko ES100 235 tires with +45 offset on 8" wide rims, the sidewall of the tire was sticking out 5mm past the front fender. It was measured with a straight edge against the side of the fender dropping down to the side of the tire. The car wasn't even lowered back then. If the car is lowered to a certain point without the camber kit, the negative camber tend to fit the tires in a little better at the expense of tire wear.
that's the set up i'm running right now 235/45/17 with 8" wide rims, and i'd have to say the rear looks flush but the front looks a bit sticking out, i'm only dropped on 1" front back so cant really see the camber issue up front.
#9
Yea, I guess it depends on the wheel. Those ADRs are the exact same wheels i have, and I was worried about the fitting, but i guess it should be fine. I got lucky and found a guy who had a brand new set and sold them to me for 600, he also happened to live a few miles away from me. I guess Ill just stick with the wheels and maybe order Volks later on or something, but for now, those will do. Thanks for your inputs.
#10
Originally Posted by JTso
It also depends on the brand/type of tires being used with the wheels. When I had Yoko ES100 235 tires with +45 offset on 8" wide rims, the sidewall of the tire was sticking out 5mm past the front fender. It was measured with a straight edge against the side of the fender dropping down to the side of the tire. The car wasn't even lowered back then. If the car is lowered to a certain point without the camber kit, the negative camber tend to fit the tires in a little better at the expense of tire wear.
#11
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Not that I've ever seen an 18x8 +50 wheel, but if there was one, do you think there would be enough room around the shock?
#12
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Not that I've ever seen an 18x8 +50 wheel, but if there was one, do you think there would be enough room around the shock?
#14
Here are some pics of wheel spacing...
Front spacing
Rear spacing
As you can see, there is plenty of room back there. Imagine 9" wide wheels with high offset.
Volk actually has some +50 to +60 offset wheels.
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Volk/volkce.htm
Front spacing
Rear spacing
As you can see, there is plenty of room back there. Imagine 9" wide wheels with high offset.
Volk actually has some +50 to +60 offset wheels.
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Volk/volkce.htm
#15
Originally Posted by JTso
Volk actually has some +50 to +60 offset wheels.
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Volk/volkce.htm
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Volk/volkce.htm
#17
Originally Posted by xizor
I would think it would be ok. +50 is 5mm lower than stock, and 18x8 would be .5in farther in, which is 12mm. So you'd only need 7mm of extra clearance?
I'm all in favor of keeping the offset high; I don't like the rims sticking out...keeps the stress off the wheel bearings too.
#19
If I'm going to lower the TSX 1.5 - 2 inches with Tein or H&R coilovers, is 19x9 the widest we can go safely without rubbing then? If so, what offset would be best? I'm looking for the widest wheel we can go and geting the flush look with the fender. I know that the lower offset would stick out, so obviously higher would be best. But specifically what offset with 19x9 would be best?
#20
Originally Posted by goowakjai
If I'm going to lower the TSX 1.5 - 2 inches with Tein or H&R coilovers, is 19x9 the widest we can go safely without rubbing then? If so, what offset would be best? I'm looking for the widest wheel we can go and geting the flush look with the fender. I know that the lower offset would stick out, so obviously higher would be best. But specifically what offset with 19x9 would be best?
#22
I believe it is width/profile/rim size
That's going to be really skinny tire. It's going to make the rim look really good, but you're going to be feeling a lot of the road because that is a really thin profile.
That's going to be really skinny tire. It's going to make the rim look really good, but you're going to be feeling a lot of the road because that is a really thin profile.
#24
Originally Posted by goowakjai
wow, that seems a little on the high side... i was thinking somewhere in the range between +47 - +55
Regardless, there's very limited selection in high offset wheels that size unless you have something custom made.
#25
Originally Posted by EURORTSX
i dont really understand tire specs...but what do the numbers mean when a tire is 225/35/R19???
I think those are the tires i got...bridgestones.
I think those are the tires i got...bridgestones.
35= 35% of 225 =sidewall height
19= 19" rim
Using these numbers, you can calculate overall tire diameter, which should be as close to stock diameter as possible.
Stock is 215/50/17
215mm x 50% = 107.5mm /25.4(convert to inches)=4.23" sidewall height
4.23" x 2 (top and bottom sidewall) =8.46" + 17" rim = 25.46 " tire diameter
225/35/19 = 25.2," a little small but certainly close enough. 235/35/19 = 25.47, dead nuts.
#26
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Probably +55 to +60 would be best.
I'm not sure I've seen anyone with 9" rims, except maybe that dude with the wide body kit and the 10" iForged rims. And he's all about the lip; his offset is probably 30.....
#27
Originally Posted by LannyM
On a 9" rim, a 55 offset moves the wheel inboard 1.2". I'm not sure there's that much room in there.
I'm not sure I've seen anyone with 9" rims, except maybe that dude with the wide body kit and the 10" iForged rims. And he's all about the lip; his offset is probably 30.....
I'm not sure I've seen anyone with 9" rims, except maybe that dude with the wide body kit and the 10" iForged rims. And he's all about the lip; his offset is probably 30.....
By my math it would be 1" not 1.2"
#28
Originally Posted by xizor
Good lord, 17x9 +63, that thing would have a sick lip
#29
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
By my math it would be 1" not 1.2"
But still, I wouldn't be the one to try 1" inboard, especially lowered.......
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