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Old 05-10-2006, 11:21 AM
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Ingalls rear camber/toe adjustment kit. :)

i got it monday, put the arms in last night, and ran down this morning and got it aligned.

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and the spec sheet:




the TSX doesn't have a caster adjustment for the fronts, so i'll have to live with that.. but for some reason, my right side front must be lower than the left, and this is leaving me out of spec in camber on the R-F.. not by much. its still in range, but almost on the verge of being out of spec.

the rears came out 100%. ide like to save my tires. =)
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That's okay. My front right is a little out of spec too. I think the spec is 0.75 and mine is at 0.78. I wouldnt' worry about it. That's barely out of spec.
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NICE!! I just to mine installed this past saturday and monday. The bottom link for the toe was seized at one end so I had to have it removed at the place where I got my alignment. OUCh that wasnt cheap But now I have them on and have lifetime alignments.
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Originally Posted by Built B16A
i got it monday, put the arms in last night, and ran down this morning and got it aligned.

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the TSX doesn't have a caster adjustment for the fronts, so i'll have to live with that.. but for some reason, my right side front must be lower than the left, and this is leaving me out of spec in camber on the R-F.. not by much. its still in range, but almost on the verge of being out of spec.

the rears came out 100%. ide like to save my tires. =)
What suspension-tire setup are you running?
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What suspension-tire setup are you running?

Tein Super Streets.. coils at the top of the threads.. "the car can't go any higher.. lol" Volk 18" X 7.5" wheels, and 225/45R18's.

its a driving dream!
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Originally Posted by Built B16A
Tein Super Streets.. coils at the top of the threads.. "the car can't go any higher.. lol" Volk 18" X 7.5" wheels, and 225/45R18's.

its a driving dream!
why the heck do you have them all the way up thta seems to defeat the purpose of purchasing them in the first place.
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why the heck do you have them all the way up thta seems to defeat the purpose of purchasing them in the first place.

Perhaps he likes the increased spring rates and a mild drop. Just because one has coilovers doesn't mean you gotta dump it
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your camber really wasn't very bad....looks pretty good.

On the rf versus lf, when you sit in the car the left side actually drops a little. Really, with you driving, the car is probably about perfect.

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Originally Posted by TSX2345
Perhaps he likes the increased spring rates and a mild drop. Just because one has coilovers doesn't mean you gotta dump it
are the tein ss height adjustable without changing spring compression. I thought you could only do that with the TEIN Flex.
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You should definitely drop it more, now that you have the camber kit. The car still looks too high man!
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the main reason of getting Tein super streets.. and setting the coil perch about as high as it can go, is i don't want to have to worry about pot holes, or dips..

but i was parinoid of lowering springs, and getting the front higher than the rear, or an un even drop.

i might lower it a little next time i go in for an alignment.

thanks for the comments guys. alignments are they way to go though.. you can't loose paying a little extra, and always know your flying "straight".
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you thought you were going to hit pot wholes at factory height so you raised the car is that what you are saying.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
you thought you were going to hit pot wholes at factory height so you raised the car is that what you are saying.
what? no, i bought the Tein suspension.. but i don't want it too low.. so i have the tien's as high as they go. in reality.. maybe a 1.5" drop. which i belive tien's will go down to 3.5".

the only reason i got the tein's was the adjustable dampener.. and the fact i can adjsut the height front to rear.. adn not have the worry of getting a un-even lowring job.
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Originally Posted by Built B16A
the main reason of getting Tein super streets.. and setting the coil perch about as high as it can go, is i don't want to have to worry about pot holes, or dips..

but i was parinoid of lowering springs, and getting the front higher than the rear, or an un even drop.

i might lower it a little next time i go in for an alignment.

thanks for the comments guys. alignments are they way to go though.. you can't loose paying a little extra, and always know your flying "straight".
Yeah I ended up paying for lifetime alignments. A lot out of the pocket first but it's gonna be well worth it.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
you thought you were going to hit pot wholes at factory height so you raised the car is that what you are saying.
The SS as the highest setting is still lower than stock
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Originally Posted by xizor
The SS as the highest setting is still lower than stock
I see that clears it up thanks.
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Originally Posted by xizor
The SS as the highest setting is still lower than stock
if you laid the oem strut next to the Tein coil assembly, you'll find out the Tein is physicaly 2" shorter.. lol

i dont' understand how you would think its stock hight to beguin with. lol
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Originally Posted by Built B16A
if you laid the oem strut next to the Tein coil assembly, you'll find out the Tein is physicaly 2" shorter.. lol

i dont' understand how you would think its stock hight to beguin with. lol
well I dont have the tein ss sorry man.
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well.. im glad you understand with the Tein's all the way up, its still noticably lowered.. lol
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Originally Posted by Built B16A
well.. im glad you understand with the Tein's all the way up, its still noticably lowered.. lol


I have been racking my brain trying to figure out how your car is set as high as possible, yet it looks so low. I just realized it is the tires making it look that way. Your tires are actually 1/2" taller than stock, so your car actually LOOKS 1/4" lower than it is if you look at the tire gap....
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could be very true marcus.. but i would of thought with the coil over susspension, i would still be able to get it alittle higher than it is now...

either way.. were it sits now.. is about where im gunna end up leaving it.

the perpouse in Tein coil over's are because i didn't want an uneven drop.. ive seen TOO many lowering springs make the front higher than the rear.. i wasnt' about to make that mistake.
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Originally Posted by Built B16A
could be very true marcus.. but i would of thought with the coil over susspension, i would still be able to get it alittle higher than it is now...

either way.. were it sits now.. is about where im gunna end up leaving it.

the perpouse in Tein coil over's are because i didn't want an uneven drop.. ive seen TOO many lowering springs make the front higher than the rear.. i wasnt' about to make that mistake.


The highest you can go is still 1.5" down in the front and 1" down in the back. If you are at the highest setting now, it still looks a little low. But the wheels and tires make it really deceiving.

How does it ride?
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
If you are at the highest setting now, it still looks a little low. But the wheels and tires make it really deceiving.

How does it ride?
that must be the case..

the ride is great!
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Do we need 2 arms per wheel or only 1 arm per wheel?
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Originally Posted by ianS
Do we need 2 arms per wheel or only 1 arm per wheel?
2 arms per wheel. One is longer than the other (toe vs camber adjustments)
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Originally Posted by ianS
Do we need 2 arms per wheel or only 1 arm per wheel?

The ingalls kit is 2 lower arms per side.
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Originally Posted by ianS
Do we need 2 arms per wheel or only 1 arm per wheel?
You will need 2 arms per wheel like other have mentioned. However, it depends where you are buying it from. If you buy direct from Ingalls, you will need two kits as they sell per side (2 links). Most other shops will specify a kit = both sides for half the MSRP listed by Ingalls.

http://www.ingallseng.com/parts/38725.htm
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Originally Posted by ianS
Do we need 2 arms per wheel or only 1 arm per wheel?
2 arms, 1 only gives you toe. but the ingalls comes w/ 4 arms total, so its everything you need
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^^ Good point JTso. I bought mine from www.importhorizons.com and they set 1 kit, which is both sides. The details are in the fine print.
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
The ingalls kit is 2 lower arms per side.

I'm surprised you are even talking about these.
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Originally Posted by moda_way
I'm surprised you are even talking about these.


I give up man. Lol. I have 3 sets in stock BTW.

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Originally Posted by Built B16A
what? no, i bought the Tein suspension.. but i don't want it too low.. so i have the tien's as high as they go. in reality.. maybe a 1.5" drop. which i belive tien's will go down to 3.5".



See, I just installed Ingalls camber kits and Tein SS on an 06 TSX this morning.

Here is where the rear height was set (Teins recommended spec). Right in the middle of the threads, with about .75-1 " to go up or down.




Here is what the car looks like:





And here is the tire gap:







I just don't see how your sus can be all the way up and still be that low.



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I just don't see how your sus can be all the way up and still be that low.



Marcus
hehehe.. i'll take pics tomorrow afternoon.
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3rd pic is on the rack.

i didn't look to see what part numbers were on the actual spring.. but when i recived the box from my distributor, it was unopened from Tein.

as you can see.. im pushing up on the coils, and can't get any play out of them.. they're as high as they can go by hand, and then some more by the spanner wrench.

the differance from 40 to 45 series shoudl'nt play that much of a role in how much gap... but in my opinion the tiens raised all the way up is still slammed.

i also have it aligned all the way around with only a rear camber kit, and the fronts on on the virge of being out of spec.
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Here's my car w/ Tein SS on the very bottom of the adjustment, as low as it goes



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wow.. ok, and now what tire size are you on? wheel, tire, and offset size..
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Originally Posted by xizor
Here's my car w/ Tein SS on the very bottom of the adjustment, as low as it goes



you should have never sold those rims man.
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Originally Posted by Built B16A

3rd pic is on the rack.

i didn't look to see what part numbers were on the actual spring.. but when i recived the box from my distributor, it was unopened from Tein.

as you can see.. im pushing up on the coils, and can't get any play out of them.. they're as high as they can go by hand, and then some more by the spanner wrench.

the differance from 40 to 45 series shoudl'nt play that much of a role in how much gap... but in my opinion the tiens raised all the way up is still slammed.

i also have it aligned all the way around with only a rear camber kit, and the fronts on on the virge of being out of spec.

Well, then you made a very misleading statement. Just because you can't spin them up by hand any more does not mean that is not as high as the car will go. You have a lot of threads left and can raise that car at least 1/2"-3/4" higher. You need to preload the spring more to get it higher. How much did you preload it?

The difference from 40-45 series is not the issue. The issue is that your tires are 1/2" taller overall than you stock tires. That means you have your fender filled up 1/4" all around by bigger tires, making the car LOOK lower. Your car is not that low at all.

Camber means nothing. Lowering the car to any degree is going to mess up the camber. That is not a good way to guage the lowness of the car.

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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
You have a lot of threads left and can raise that car at least 1/2"-3/4" higher. You need to preload the spring more to get it higher. How much did you preload it?
to me.. seamed if Tein put a longer spring in the kit than it needed.. but, on the flip side.. the whole strut/coil over assembly is shorter than stock... i preloaded these pretty damn good. im leaning on it pretty damn hard, and i got 0 movement out of the spring.

the only way i think i could preload it more, is by using a spring compressor... and bringing the perch up higher. i gave them alot of good cranks with the tein spanner wrench.. thats about as high as it would go without using cheater bars, or something bigger.


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