Comptech Rear Swaybar Install - With Pics!
#41
Joe... uber mad props on this thread you started. It cut out all the guesswork when I put mine in this weekend!
Anyone use polyurethane bushings? The washers that came with mine made it a pisser of a time trying to thread the bushing screws in straight... anywho, I hear an odd sound here and there, but I'm not sure if it's because I need to grease the bastards a little bit more, or if I may have over-torqued some things.
BUT WHAT A DIFFERENCE THIS BAR MAKES around the bends...
Anyone use polyurethane bushings? The washers that came with mine made it a pisser of a time trying to thread the bushing screws in straight... anywho, I hear an odd sound here and there, but I'm not sure if it's because I need to grease the bastards a little bit more, or if I may have over-torqued some things.
BUT WHAT A DIFFERENCE THIS BAR MAKES around the bends...
#42
Originally Posted by SiHawk
Yes, it really works... I learned this trick from a friend a few years ago, and have used it on my own cars.
Put a few wraps of Teflon tape around the sway bar at the bushings, and you'll be set for a long time with no squeaks.
Put a few wraps of Teflon tape around the sway bar at the bushings, and you'll be set for a long time with no squeaks.
#43
Originally Posted by amadeus303
Joe... uber mad props on this thread you started. It cut out all the guesswork when I put mine in this weekend!
Anyone use polyurethane bushings? The washers that came with mine made it a pisser of a time trying to thread the bushing screws in straight... anywho, I hear an odd sound here and there, but I'm not sure if it's because I need to grease the bastards a little bit more, or if I may have over-torqued some things.
BUT WHAT A DIFFERENCE THIS BAR MAKES around the bends...
Anyone use polyurethane bushings? The washers that came with mine made it a pisser of a time trying to thread the bushing screws in straight... anywho, I hear an odd sound here and there, but I'm not sure if it's because I need to grease the bastards a little bit more, or if I may have over-torqued some things.
BUT WHAT A DIFFERENCE THIS BAR MAKES around the bends...
I bought a set of poly bushings a few weeks back. Just havent had a chance to put them on yet. I'll let you know how it turns out...
#44
For those that have the bar installed...
Does the car sound "different"? I don't know if I can describe exactly what I hear. It doesn't sound like anything is wrong, but I definitely hear a pop-like sound when I go over some rough patches on the road which I assume is the stiffer sway bar trying to stabilize the car. I'm hoping that someone will just tell me that I'm being overly sensitive or paranoid. The car drives great, and I don't hear anything when I'm on smooth pavement...
Does the car sound "different"? I don't know if I can describe exactly what I hear. It doesn't sound like anything is wrong, but I definitely hear a pop-like sound when I go over some rough patches on the road which I assume is the stiffer sway bar trying to stabilize the car. I'm hoping that someone will just tell me that I'm being overly sensitive or paranoid. The car drives great, and I don't hear anything when I'm on smooth pavement...
#46
Originally Posted by amadeus303
For those that have the bar installed...
Does the car sound "different"? I don't know if I can describe exactly what I hear. It doesn't sound like anything is wrong, but I definitely hear a pop-like sound when I go over some rough patches on the road which I assume is the stiffer sway bar trying to stabilize the car. I'm hoping that someone will just tell me that I'm being overly sensitive or paranoid. The car drives great, and I don't hear anything when I'm on smooth pavement...
Does the car sound "different"? I don't know if I can describe exactly what I hear. It doesn't sound like anything is wrong, but I definitely hear a pop-like sound when I go over some rough patches on the road which I assume is the stiffer sway bar trying to stabilize the car. I'm hoping that someone will just tell me that I'm being overly sensitive or paranoid. The car drives great, and I don't hear anything when I'm on smooth pavement...
#49
Originally Posted by cmd
No noises here. Make sure your endlink nuts are tight.
CJams -- I agree! Now the kids in the back seat like to yell "wheeee" on the winding route to the sitter.
CJams -- I agree! Now the kids in the back seat like to yell "wheeee" on the winding route to the sitter.
Dang... that's what it was. After I originally installed the bar, I drove around for a bit, and then retorqued everything again. I guess I didn't tighten the driver's side end link enough! I KNEW something was wrong
Thanks guys...
#51
Just got mine in the mail, was going to manage the install tonight with the use of my trusty flashlight. But my RSB didn't come with the washers, so no go for tonight. (Got mine through the Black Market.) Tomorrow, I'll head to Home Depot. Does anyone know what size washer I should get offhand?
So anxious! It's just sitting in my den, taunting me
So anxious! It's just sitting in my den, taunting me
#52
So I couldn't wait at all and went to Home Depot before they closed. I grabbed a Maglight and 4 correctly sized washers.
So I started around 10pm.... Yeah not the best of ideas, but I was excited!
First thing I noticed was that my darn Craftsman 2.5 ton jack from Sears wouldn't lift high enough from the back to put the jack stands in on the side. So I got the jack that came with the car for switching out wheels, put it up as far as it could go on each side and slid the jack stands in that way.
As for the rest of the install, it was really tricky getting one of the bushings on. It was semi-crooked and the bolt did NOT want to screw in, so i put that end link on first and that put it well in place to get the bolts lined up correctly. I used teflon tape in the bushings. The other tricky part was holding the damn flashlight in place while trying to do all this, lol.
So I finished up around midnight. Took me 2 hours for the first install ever and it was at night. Not bad for a .
I had enough time for a quick 5-10 minute test drive afterwards. I took it around a few onramp/offramps. First impression, body roll has been reduced quite well. The back end started to come out a bit as well. First time I have really felt that, having never driven a RWD car to the limits before. It was pretty fun and the tires did some squealing. The steering also felt a little "heavier." I felt more connected to the road, which is a good thing.
Also, there was a little creaking as well, but I put my maglight in the trunk next to the spare tire, so it might have been that shifting around. Tomorrow, after work, I'll put the car back on jack stands and re-torque the bolts.
Thanks for the all the write-ups and hints, guys. Sure helped a ton!
So I started around 10pm.... Yeah not the best of ideas, but I was excited!
First thing I noticed was that my darn Craftsman 2.5 ton jack from Sears wouldn't lift high enough from the back to put the jack stands in on the side. So I got the jack that came with the car for switching out wheels, put it up as far as it could go on each side and slid the jack stands in that way.
As for the rest of the install, it was really tricky getting one of the bushings on. It was semi-crooked and the bolt did NOT want to screw in, so i put that end link on first and that put it well in place to get the bolts lined up correctly. I used teflon tape in the bushings. The other tricky part was holding the damn flashlight in place while trying to do all this, lol.
So I finished up around midnight. Took me 2 hours for the first install ever and it was at night. Not bad for a .
I had enough time for a quick 5-10 minute test drive afterwards. I took it around a few onramp/offramps. First impression, body roll has been reduced quite well. The back end started to come out a bit as well. First time I have really felt that, having never driven a RWD car to the limits before. It was pretty fun and the tires did some squealing. The steering also felt a little "heavier." I felt more connected to the road, which is a good thing.
Also, there was a little creaking as well, but I put my maglight in the trunk next to the spare tire, so it might have been that shifting around. Tomorrow, after work, I'll put the car back on jack stands and re-torque the bolts.
Thanks for the all the write-ups and hints, guys. Sure helped a ton!
#55
Over in the TL forums I just posted some instructions and tons of pictures on how I installed the upgraded energy suspension poly bushings. I managed to get the greasble ones on my car...the non-greaseable version fits the TSX / TL with the CT RSB though (you still grease it by hand when installing however).
You should definitely grease the CT bushings even if you don't upgrade to the aftermarket ones to prevent squeaking and thumping. My trick was to put on a latex surgical glove from the depot..dip my finger in a can of good marine trailer grease, and smear it liberally inside the bushings and on the bar where they sit. The following week I upgraded even further to the aftermarket bushings (about $13 cost).
This is very simple install, I just backed the car up my 2 tire ramps, and the other key tool is a ratcheting crescent wrench makes it simple as can be.
Thought I'd share with our TSX brothers over here!
You should definitely grease the CT bushings even if you don't upgrade to the aftermarket ones to prevent squeaking and thumping. My trick was to put on a latex surgical glove from the depot..dip my finger in a can of good marine trailer grease, and smear it liberally inside the bushings and on the bar where they sit. The following week I upgraded even further to the aftermarket bushings (about $13 cost).
This is very simple install, I just backed the car up my 2 tire ramps, and the other key tool is a ratcheting crescent wrench makes it simple as can be.
Thought I'd share with our TSX brothers over here!
#56
Originally Posted by SiHawk
Yes, it really works... I learned this trick from a friend a few years ago, and have used it on my own cars.
Put a few wraps of Teflon tape around the sway bar at the bushings, and you'll be set for a long time with no squeaks.
Put a few wraps of Teflon tape around the sway bar at the bushings, and you'll be set for a long time with no squeaks.
i'm thinking the teflon tape may come in handy for other rattle/buzz/squeak-related DIY's...
#57
Just installed my Progress RSB.
Thanks to the tips and pics in this thread.
Here's a tip to add to this thread.
Remove the exhaust/muffler from the hooks for more clearance.
There's one at the rear behind the muffler, and one right in front of it.
Now you should be able to fit any wrench around the bolt
Thanks to the tips and pics in this thread.
Next, grab your ratchet and remove the 14mm bolts. NOTE - on the driver's side, one of the bolts is very close to the exaust piping. Your going to need a SMALL rachet for this one.
Remove the exhaust/muffler from the hooks for more clearance.
There's one at the rear behind the muffler, and one right in front of it.
Now you should be able to fit any wrench around the bolt
#60
Originally Posted by TSX420J
Are you able to do this to both sway bars without removing the endlinks???
The endlinks pivot, so you should be able to lower the sway bar to remove/adjust the bushings.
#61
Originally Posted by psteng19
Not 100% sure, but I think you should be able to.
The endlinks pivot, so you should be able to lower the sway bar to remove/adjust the bushings.
The endlinks pivot, so you should be able to lower the sway bar to remove/adjust the bushings.
1. take out bolts holding the bushing brackets,
2. slide the bushing to the side,
3. wrap the bar with the tape,
4. slide the bushing over the tape and back in place,
5. reinstall the brackets and bolts.
However, if you're already doing this why not order the poly bushings and just replace them in steps 2 & 4 above. My bar doesn't squeak but the rubber bushings are starting to deform and fray on the ends.
#62
Originally Posted by jlukja
If you've already installed the RSB then all you need to do is:
1. take out bolts holding the bushing brackets,
2. slide the bushing to the side,
3. wrap the bar with the tape,
4. slide the bushing over the tape and back in place,
5. reinstall the brackets and bolts.
However, if you're already doing this why not order the poly bushings and just replace them in steps 2 & 4 above. My bar doesn't squeak but the rubber bushings are starting to deform and fray on the ends.
1. take out bolts holding the bushing brackets,
2. slide the bushing to the side,
3. wrap the bar with the tape,
4. slide the bushing over the tape and back in place,
5. reinstall the brackets and bolts.
However, if you're already doing this why not order the poly bushings and just replace them in steps 2 & 4 above. My bar doesn't squeak but the rubber bushings are starting to deform and fray on the ends.
I havent installed one yet.. The reason I ask is because after installing my springs and shocks Ive noticed squeakiness in the front but not in the rear.
#64
The write-up was a huge aid, made the whole process trivial (not that it was complicated to begin with, but the photos and wrench sizes made it a snap), had the stock bar out in no time. Getting the Progress bar in was another matter, still not sure how it got in place, all of a sudden (after about 30 frustrating minutes, had both rear wheels off too) it was just where it need to be - except it was upside down. I've never done this before, had no idea that could happen. Anyway, huge improvement. Only downside, I think I need new tires...
#65
I've taken my sway bar off and put one on a couple times and I've found most recently that its a heck of a lot easier to drop the exhaust. there's 4 hangers that pop right off and it gives plenty of room to maneuver the bar to the other side
#67
Originally Posted by kennungesser
Quick question, anyone here put this on a stock TSX suspension? Or will this only improve an aftermarket set up?
Thanks,
Ken
Thanks,
Ken
#68
Originally Posted by kennungesser
Quick question, anyone here put this on a stock TSX suspension? Or will this only improve an aftermarket set up?
Thanks,
Ken
Thanks,
Ken
#70
Just from one engineer to the group; you shouldn't have to lift the car in the air to do this modification... So long as the car is parked on level ground, and you have enough room underneath it to do the install, the RARB should be neutral...
Just my 2 cents. I did my swap without even jacking my car up...
Just my 2 cents. I did my swap without even jacking my car up...
#71
Originally Posted by DarkLava
Just from one engineer to the group; you shouldn't have to lift the car in the air to do this modification... So long as the car is parked on level ground, and you have enough room underneath it to do the install, the RARB should be neutral...
Just my 2 cents. I did my swap without even jacking my car up...
Just my 2 cents. I did my swap without even jacking my car up...
#74
Originally Posted by DarkLava
Just from one engineer to the group; you shouldn't have to lift the car in the air to do this modification... So long as the car is parked on level ground, and you have enough room underneath it to do the install, the RARB should be neutral...
Just my 2 cents. I did my swap without even jacking my car up...
Just my 2 cents. I did my swap without even jacking my car up...
It took about 5 mins to jack up the rear, put jackstand, and take off one wheel. Its worth the time...
#75
Which one is better, Progress or Comptech RSB? I'm looking to purchase one soon, and thought I'd ask which one was better (thicker) and if possible can anyone refer me to a link with a reasonable price?
#76
Originally Posted by Jrock04TSX
Which one is better, Progress or Comptech RSB? I'm looking to purchase one soon, and thought I'd ask which one was better (thicker) and if possible can anyone refer me to a link with a reasonable price?
#77
^^They're both pretty similar and of the same thickness. Progress had the advantage intitially because they shipped with poly bushings (quieter), but I think the Comptech is now too.
The Progress will be the better choice if you go to an aftermarket cat back exhaust, due to clearance issues. The Comptech will clear fine with the OEM exhaust and the Comptech exhaust.
Searching will reveal a ton of info on this topic. I got my Progress here.
The Progress will be the better choice if you go to an aftermarket cat back exhaust, due to clearance issues. The Comptech will clear fine with the OEM exhaust and the Comptech exhaust.
Searching will reveal a ton of info on this topic. I got my Progress here.
#79
the last thing i want to do is be one of those annoying guess who comes onto a forum and whores out his sponsors. But i would just like to add, that H&R also makes a rear saw bar for the tsx. And they might be producing a 24mm RSB.
just another option incase you guys weren't aware of it.
just another option incase you guys weren't aware of it.
#80
Originally Posted by jimmyc
the last thing i want to do is be one of those annoying guess who comes onto a forum and whores out his sponsors. But i would just like to add, that H&R also makes a rear saw bar for the tsx. And they might be producing a 24mm RSB.
just another option incase you guys weren't aware of it.
just another option incase you guys weren't aware of it.