Thinking of switching to EBC Sport Grooved Sport Brake Rotors. I am trying to improve the brakes which I find unsatisfactory.

 

so do it...

 

Wondering if it's worth the trouble?

 

hmmm... don't

i have the EBC sport grooved brakes rotors... i like their pads (green stuff) but the rotors feel like they are warped when braking (they are not warped but the slots give that sensation)... also, the protective coating last about a half of winter, then everything starts to rust.

overall braking has improved but I'm betting that most of my braking gains come from just switching to green stuff pads.

 

Thanks man! I'll get the pads. Super.

 

If you wanna get a rotor swap done to help out your braking too, the Spoon ones are great. Had them on my RSX. They're the same rotors on the TSX as the RSX-S. They're in no way cheap, but they're better ventilated (cross-drilled), they're better for long term use, and they're over 3 lbs lighter for each rotor than the stock ones.

 

I am unhappy with stock configuration. When braking lightly I feel some sort of vibration through the steering wheel. What's the impact of lighter rotors? Thanks.

 

if you are feeling a vibration already it could mean 2 things... one you have already warped your rotors... 2, you have an unbalanced tire.

unless what you are feeling is the anti lock kicking in. does this happen all the time?

I warped my GS-R rotors within 4000 miles of owning it... was a bit pissed because I didn't think I was braking that hard... had them milled and the problem never occured again.


you run the risk of warping the rotors if you decided to lighten them by buying thinner rotors, so be careful.

 

The Spoon ones are no thinner, they just have a lighter weight because of the materials used. Their intent is for endurance racing (just as any Spoon parts are), so wear should be no issue. As for your vibration, just take it to your dealer. It could be a "warranty-related" issue. If not, you could at least find out what's actually causing your vibration.

 

I can not visually see the shacking. It's more like a grinding vibration of the steering wheel coming through my hands. A subtle vibration felt a low speeds when breaking. Car stopping straight and without hesitation.

Stopping in traffic I am pretty gentle with my brakes but with the car having such nice acceleration at higher speeds I have used them aggressively for slower traffic when speeding in the 100 to 115 mph range.

I am definitely interested in the Spoon rotors. I get the impression the stock brake configuration is weak for the kind of driving this car allows.

 

yeah... then you warped them... at high speeds (100 plus), you will generate more heat and you will warp the rotors quicker.

 

I agree with DEVO, you warped them. The stock ones really can't handle higher speed, heavier braking. It does produce much more heat than they should take on a normal basis. The Spoons definately handle more heat for more life. I can assure you of that. I've loved the results I had on my RSX with them. Smoother, shorter braking is great, but then you throw in the lighter unsprung weight.

 

I am not sure what you means by "you throw in unsprung weight"?

 

Unsprung weight, as in wheels & tires and brakes. These are items that aren't attatched to your car that has to be affected by your suspension. The lighter your unsprung weight, the better your handling can be.

 

Understood. I do not like to modify just to modify but replacing the stock tires for better grip and getting better rotors seems like a plus here. Do I need to change all four rotors or only the front ones? Thanks.

 

You can do just the fronts if you want to (at least do the fronts to get any real benefit). To do the whole set is going to make a difference overall, of course. Your stopping distances are going to be heavily shortened and your brakes will be much less subject to wear. They're much stronger in material than the stockers.

 

There is something weird about the rear wheels. The rotors look very small. Some how the look is not just right. I am wondering if it’s possible to install larger rotors and calipers.

 

Yes, it can be done. I wouldn't say that the rears are small, but they are a little different in size (by 2") than the fronts.

 

The car is so front-heavy that the rears don't need to be very big.

 

Correct.

 

Understood and I will change front rotors with Spoons for better braking but esthetically the rear wheels look funny because of size of rotors. From a purely visual perspective there should be some kind of improvement done in my opinion!

 

I agree that the rears look out of place on the stock setup. The Spoons look much better all around. Especially since they're cross-drilled.

 

As anybody changed their rotors on the TSX?

 

I just had mine resurfaced at 10K miles

 

What was the problem?

 

This gives me an idea.....what about putting the brembo "TL" upgrades on the TSX

 

 

Not available for TSX.

 

What about AEM Four Piston Caliper Big Rotor Brake Kit, front and rear? They make them for the RSX-S. Should fit the TSX???Anybody has experience with them?

 

That's a hell of an idea!! The bolt pattern is the same. All we have to do is check wheel clearance. Hmmmmm....

 

Let us know if that would work?

 

I dont know, they just warped. i dont drive very hard.

 

I have the same problem. I don't like my brakes. Trying to figure out what to replace them with.

 

There are some pretty good looking brake products for the TSX here at www.brakeworld.com. The slotted rotors seem like a reasonable upgrade, but I'm really eyeing the big brake kit.

 

I just poked around to get Spoon rotor prices.

Whoa. They start at ~$235 PER ROTOR.
I'll have to save up my babysitting money for a WHILE.

 

Okay, I read through the thread and I still don't know what I need to get to upgrade my brakes. (Not a car enthusiast-- never cared much about my previous car, and I just got the TSX 5 weeks ago.) I'm not exactly racing at the track, so it's not like I need super-pro brakes; I'm just alarmed by the long stop distances even during stop-and-go on my commute and want something that feels more safe. Would I need to get rotors and pads and calipers and lines? Whatever I need, what can I expect to pay in total (for the materials and labor) if I have them professionally installed?

I'm guessing my brakes are not something I want to dick around with if I don't really know what I'm doing.

 

dnl2ba, just try upgrading the pads... which is a very cheap solution. try the green stuff, they have done the trick with my car.

 

how much has your Tsx's braking performance improved from using the green pads (EBC?). Also, how much were the pads and from where did you buy them?

 

Has anyone tried the big brake upgrade kit on "brakeworld.com?" Can you tell us about it?
I'm interested in this kit too.

thanks

 

Don't own a TSX, I used the green stuff (EBC) on my Acura GS-R which I thought had terrible stopping power. With the pads alone I noticed a huge difference is stopping distance. When I upgraded my rotors (EBC rotors), I noticed no difference except for the annoying feeling of the vibration of the slots on the rotors. So I thought the rotors were a waste of money while the pads seemed to have been good enough.

I bought the the rotors and pads at www.tirerack.com.