jiggaman

Thinking bout buying it. any pros and cons btw comptech and neuspeed swar bars?

fdl

I think the bushings on the neuspeed are better. But of course its more expensive.

BTW, nice avatar

jiggaman

think it's gonna have to be my next purchase seeing how there are no aftermarket struts available yet. and thanks for the avatar compliment. i aim to please.

Maxboost

I think that to get the most performance out of Neuspeed's bar you need to have both front and back? Since they're sell'in both.

jiggaman

yeah i'll probably buy both the front and rear at the same time and do it up right. car should handle like its on rails after that. although the stock tires do pretty much suck.

JTso

iTrader: (2)

The front one seems to be a little more difficult to install than the rear one.

sandwiches

Comptech rear sway is only $119! But as someone noted, the bushings are rubber rather than polyurethane.

TinkySD

if you go the polyurethane route make sure you use some type of grease on them. My friend installe dthe neuspeeds on his jetta and everytime he went over a bump they squeaked and groaned really loud. I little lube fixed that up though.

xizor

what exactly is the handling benefit of poly bushings over rubber? Someone said that although the Neuspeed rear sway is thinner than the CompTech, the Poly bushings make them handle similarly. In which case what's the point of spending the extra $$ for Neuspeed?

xizor

bump, I'm waiting on an answer to decide which rear sway bar I'm going to buy.

The CompTech one is more like $130 since the site's price doesn't include shipping (another vendor has it for $130 after shipping). Neuspeed's includes shipping, so its $180 flat.

fdl

So anyone buy a neuspeed sway bar yet? If so please post your impressions.

fdl

bump. Anyone? There must be someone who bought one of these things.

forestsoft

I found some poly bushings for my comptech bar.
The buckets were a bit heavier too.

And they bolted right up to my same bolt holes.

They came with some lube; I lube them real good before mounting.
Its been mounted for 2+ months, we had rain, cold weather. Pot holes....not one squeak from them. They are ribbed on the inside...apparently it holds the lube real good...I going to start looking for a set for the front now.

Get the comptech bar, and buy a 20$ set of polys for it
You can tell the difference too... between the rubber, and the polys. Its much tighter around the corners.

A cheap upgrade to a good heavier bar.

fdl

Ya but i dont want such a thick bar. I want something smaller (19 mm). I'm wondering if the bushings really make the 19 mm neuspeed bar act like the comptech. Do you find that your car oversteers more with the new bushings?

forestsoft

just a tad...it kind of feels like i can break the rear if i push it.

When i had the comptech on...after a while..I thought it felt more muchy...and when i look at the old rubber...it look like it did smash flat bettween the frame and the bar...i did not like the split in the rubber at that point. ( i think maybe this is why it was smashed flat at that point) The new polys, had the split pointing away from the frame about 75 degrees, and there was more meat between the frame and the bar too.....I like the bar now even more with the polys...I do not think i can go back to something thinner.

fdl

So have you tried taking a really hard turn? What happens at the limit? (or does it depend on the type of turn, etc).

Thanks,.

forestsoft

check this link out tons of good info...

http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...=comptech+sway

fdl

yes i'm familiar with that thread But i was wondering if the dynmics of the car had changed with the new bushings. (i.e., even MORE oversteer).

JTso

iTrader: (2)

A swaybar with solid endlinks and poly bushings will be more responsive than one with only rubber bushings. Because the full effectiveness of the swaybar won't be realized until all the "gives" is taken away by compressing the rubber bushings. The only concern I have with a thick bar and poly bushings is the D-bushing mounting point. There's a possibility the stress being put on the mounting point during hard cornering can break that part of the mount off. My Neuspeed rear bar for my Civic came with a reinforced backing plate for that same reason.

tsXgtp

That front install makes me nervous...Maybe front Poly's can be installed w\o removing the bar completely.
These bars are solid right?

xizor

speaking of sway bars, i saw this interesting link on an evo forum

adjustable sway bar

Looked somewhat interesting. What would the effect be of drilling holes closer in?

JTso

iTrader: (2)

By moving the end-link position closer to the center of the bar, essentially taking the flex out of the bar and making it respond quicker.

xizor

I guess it would be possible on the front, since the rear CompTech is pretty thick/stiff already. But I don't think increasing the front would accomplish anything good.

STL

I'm with you on this -- a 22mm rear bar is just too much (for me). I'm wondering if just keeping the OEM 15mm bar and adding new poly bushing would be worthwhiled for those of use not wanting as much stiffness.

CCColtsicehockey

dang holly thread resurection. this thing is almost two years old.

narci

Wow i was going to say the same..welcome to 2004.

Anyways, I see STL posted alot of inquiries about RSB's. I'm wondering how can you tell the difference between a 19mm sway and a 22mm sway? Have you driven both? I have the progress RSB and I can tell you that it's great. It really shows the limitations of the stock tires. For 8 years I was use to driving a C36 RWD. When i switched over tot he TSX FWD, the front plowed majorly when cornering. After the Pogress RSB, the car felt more neutral to understeer...it felt more like my old RWD C36. I'm loving it.

jiggaman

agreed progress RSB kicks ass

STL

I haven't driven both (or either for that matter), but I know if you beef up the rear sway bar too much (while leaving the front one alone) then you can induce oversteer in some situations -- and that's dependent on your tires to an extent. I plan to use the stock tires until they wear out, and I want a RSB that will get me more neutral handling without taking it past neutral towards the other extreme.

dom

Sounds like the Comptech will satisfy you. You won't regret it.

I can't speak to the progress....

narci

The comptech and progress is the same size. I'm on the hard setting on the progress bar...too much of a pain in the butt to change it to the softer setting so i can only speak about the hard setting.

The RSB is cheap enough frop you to buy it and try it out. If you don't like it...i'm sure there's alot of people here who would take it off your hands..especially the progress bar (It seems ot be a bit rarer)

jlukja

One thing to keep in mind is that the Comptech RSB will have fitment issues if you plan on swapping out the exhaust for any brand other than a Comptech exhaust.

STL

Does anyone how the harder/software settings on the Progress compare to the Comptech?

It's not really about cost -- it's about time and hassle. I rather get it right the first time. I'll be installing the A-Spec suspension kit soon (if it ever gets here) and want to do the RSB at the same time. I am still weight three options:
1) keep the stock RSB and add some poly bushing.
2) replace the RSB with the 19mm Neuspeed
3) replace the RSB with the 22mm Comptech/Progess
I guess there is still a fourth option that's darkhorse. That would be using a 17mm or 20mm OEM TL RSB -- but no one has confirmed or denied it will fit. I have my doubts, but some of the talk I've seen here really makes be wonder if it just might.

jlukja

I have the Comptech RSB with the A-spec suspension and I love the way it takes corners.

STL

Did you have those two mods on an other stock car (tires, wheels, & suspension wise)?

JTso

iTrader: (2)

I don't think the 22mm bar is too thick at all. I would install a 25mm bar in a heartbeat if available.

jlukja

No. I installed the RSB early last year. The A-spec suspension was added about 2 months ago.

narci

Like I said, I can't talk about about the CT sway bar because I never had it or every driven a car with it. The Progress is adjusable..comptech is not.

That being said..it's fair to say that you cannot get the set up right the first time by asking people what's good on the internet. Term 'good' is faily subjective. Like most on this board can agree, it'll take trial and error to find the right balance for you. If your looking to find the perfect balance the first time around, I hate to see how you would react when upgrading wheels and tires. Wheel and tire sizing will drive you bananas.

Just grab either the comptech or progress and have some fun.

STL

narci,
Maybe I am over analyzing things, but just running out and grabbing the first RSB I find isn't a good idea either. Why not ask a few questions to try to better the chances of getting it right the first time?

BTW, my A-Spec suspension kit arrived today!! Maybe I will just install it first and see where I'm at after that. I would still like to know if an OEM TL RSB will fit though.

dom

I don't think STL will be changing his wheels anytime soon.

dom

You've obviously searched enough to know that not one perosn has regretted getting either the comptech or progress, not one. Throwing the TL swaybar into the mix is just wasting your time IMO. Go with what you know (and several others know) is best.