TodaSi

Found this over on Honda-Tech. AMR Engineering Coilovers *Lifetime Warranty*


-24 way rebound and compression adjusability
-Corrosion and rust resistant
-46mm piston
-Seperate Height and Preload adjustment
-Mono-Tube design rather than Twin-Tube
-Customized for each application
2003-up Acura TSX 895.00 SHIPPED

AMR Engineering Coilovers

Wondering if anyone has heard of them or knows someone who is running them.

HoRRo

Most of the comments from Honda-tech members look quite promising, have yet to go through the 15pgs or so. The specs are definitely nice and the custom rates are definitely great. The only concern I have is that, a lifetime warranty is only lifetime if a company lasts that long. Although, if they last 5 years from purchase date, that's good enough for me. I'd definitely think about switching to AMR for better rates.

Chris_F

they look like ksport (aka orange d2's) to me

castillo183

Re they Worth Getting ?

PJS

I'll hopefully let you know soon enough - hopefully being the optimum word.

TodaSi

"Hopefully" you can let us all know how they are...if in fact you get them.

castillo183

Well, I hope soon enough. I am in desparted need for dampers. My damper everytime i hit a small bump i hear the spring

peter_bigblock

Reading through the posts they sound excellent. When it comes time for me to go to coilovers, I intend to give this guy a call and see what he has to say. Basically customized adjustable coilovers for the price of Tein Basics (about). Mr. Heeltoe or anyone here ever deal with AMR?

castillo183

Well, I am in desparted needs for new dampers. I give them a try

TodaSi

Good to hear someone is gonna give them a try.

Here are some pics to help others see what they look like.

peter_bigblock

I'll be interested to hear what you think of Andy and also of the products. These are on my list as I'm considering coilovers. These and Tein Basics -- not gonna spend the extra money for SS. I like the custom nature of the AMRs, and they look fantastic, first rate.

PJS

I agree Peter - they look the part, but pricing is going up next year, IIRC. Think they'll be providing the various brackets by default as well, for the ABS and brake lines.

jiggaman

those shocks look pretty trick

xizor

our brake lines do not connect to the shocks, so there is any brackets necessary

Excelerate

iTrader: (1)

Those look exactly like the K Sports so why not just buy the K sports? The K Sporst and D2R coilovers are made in the same factory and from the looks of these they look to be the same.

PJS

So there's already a separate bracket to which the brake line is routed to keep it free from rubbing on anything?
If so, then great.
To my mind, it always looks neater than zipping to the shock body.

PJS

Because maybe the K-Sport and D2 are overpriced - $1300 and $1516 respectively?
Both use 13kg fronts and 9 and 7.2 respectively on the rear.
Both use 36-step linked compression/rebound damping.

Now, compare that to $895 for the "same" suspension with 16-step linked damping.
Certainly makes a good case for itself, don't you think?


D2 is vastly overpriced other there - the UK distributor sells it at $1130, and that's including 17.5% VAT (value added tax)! $960 before tax.
That's explains why I was keen enough to mention their name a few times. Didn't realise the US distributor is taking the pi$$.

TodaSi

Found these as well, LOOKS like they are all the same manufacturer, K2, AMR and Function Form Autolife.




Here are the K2's



Link to F2 autolife.
Link http://www.f2autolife.com/storefront/index.php

PJS

Function² Form are AMR - look at the first set of images above, last one. Stickers in the box by the looks of it. The reseller doesn't want you to know they're the AMR ones so he can sell them at a higher price to the unwittingly.

PJS

*edit (due to 5 mins passing!)

Maybe not quite. That link above show them as being 24-step.
Think I'll ask AMR the score in an e-mail and see what they say. Be interested to know who, what, why, etc.

TodaSi

Yea, let us know what you find out. If they are all built in the same factory, and the AMR have a lifetime warrenty and are cheaper then shit...I'd get the AMR over the K2 and Function2 Form

TodaSi

Well a little more searching and we have

AMR Engineering
F2 Function
K Sport
D2

and a new one PIC (although they don't list an application for the TSX)
PIC Performance

The PIC's are built HERE

Not sure where the others are built but could be one of these....
http://www.bcec.com.tw/
http://www.anchialih.com/
http://www.will-rt.com.tw/about.htm
http://www.type-rx.com.tw/Web/index.htm
http://www.silvers-racing.com.sg/main.html

Oh and don't forget the OMNIPOWER coilovers

Anyway, found most of my info over on Honda-Tech, thought I'd share it here as well

Excelerate

iTrader: (1)

K Sport list is $1300. It doesn't mean they sell for that. I sell them for less than the price you quoted on the AMR and they offer 36 levels of adjustment as opposed to 16. You can also get custom spring rates based on what you would like. So the case isn't really there b/c they have no established name and are offering less than the competition.

PJS

Fair enough point about the actual selling price, but I disagree on offering less.
It could have eleventy squillion steps, but if you can only feel the effect of 4, then it's nothing more than a numbers game.
I'll be absolutely honest and say that I personally don't think anyone driving on the roads will be able to tell the difference between 16 and 36 step ones, and even of the 16 steps, maybe 4-6, the rest will feel the same as one of the other positions.
As for custom spring rates - yes, so too does AMR. Tailored to the car and your type of driving and what you want the car to feel/handle like.

Given you've spoken up about the K-Sport, what's your price then?
If you don't want to share publicly, then PM me with the figure.

PJS

Update:

New versions coming in a few weeks time - 8-way click rather than 36 way non-click.
The coilovers are fully custom built depending on customer's requirements.
I was under the impression it was the springs that were changed, but speaking with Andy the other evening, it turns out each set is made to order with custom valving, oil weight, and gas pressure.
Hence why some customers have had a 6-8 week wait period for their set to be made and shipped.

These are not the same shocks as K-Sport/D2 make/have made for them and rebranded.
There is no one size fits all setup like some of the more reknowned brands have.
In other words, not all TSX owners will get the same setup if their parameters are different for what they want to achieve with the suspension.

For the money and the service thus provided, not to mention the lifetime warranty (original owner only), the price is a bit of a steal when you compare it.

godfather2

^ custom suspension setup ... something for the show circuit?

TodaSi

Nice update

So you could order up a set that is say 30% more firm than stock front and rear and they will valve it to what's needed? So the A-Spec is 10% over stock...which I like but want to drop it about 3/4" more, these would let me do that plus order the valving and spring rate, be adjustable and last but not least...have a lifetime warranty!!!!!!!!

xizor

take that with a grain of salt, if comptech can disappear, so can AMR

PJS

Well, assuming since they've been around 8 years, formerly owner (IIRC) of North West Bodykits, then even if they disappear in 3 years time, that's 2 more years warranty than the similarly priced Tein/Tanabe/Buddy Club provide!
And it's not as if those companies are impervious to going out of business themselves either - so your Comptech comment is a throwaway statement.
Any warranty is only worth whatever anyone views it as - useful or useless.

PJS

You don't order the valving/SR as such, unless you know how the two are interlinked, along with the rest that comprises a shock absorber.
Basically you do as you've said above - describe your ideal scenario and AMR will do the maths and fabricate you a custom spec coilover.
If their sugessted SR's don't deliver the desired outcome, they will swap over the springs to another set of softer/harder ones which will provide you with the desired effect.
Plenty of reading and favourable feedback on Honda-Tech, so have a read through it and contact Andy, have a chat, see what he suggests - then decide if it's the right deal for you or not.

PJS

Not just show, but fully functional for your intended application.

BTW, are you selling only one Tein S-Tech spring, or all four?