shaang

Hey hows it goin!

I got a set of Volk Racing CE28N 18 X 7.5 Offset +50 in Mercury Silver on order from Japan, and I was wondering if I could fit 235/40-18 Toyo Proxes T1-S on them? From Toyo's website, the recommended wheel width range is 8"-9.5", but I prefer this size over the 225/40/-18 due to it better matching the overall diameter.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!
Thanx!

JTso

iTrader: (2)

That should be fine. It's exactly the size I'm planning to use on a set of 18x7.5 as well. Would you mind telling how much are the wheels? Btw, welcome to the board!

shaang

They were $500 per wheel because of the special color and weigh in at roughly 15lbs each.

Dan Martin

Those are going to be killer! Be sure to post pics when you've got them...

JTso

iTrader: (2)

They are very nice wheels! I'm seriously thinking about getting the same set as well. Please post pics once you have them installed.

rajuncajun

They will be perfect. Last night I installed my new wheels (ASA AR1s 18x7.5 +48 with 235/40 R18 tires). They fit perfect! No rubbing at all and they don't stick out past the fender lip. 235s are the only way to go!!!

acuratsx03

now lets see some pictures

Belzebutt

Here are some of my ride, with 235/40-18 on 7.5" wheel:




It's not dropped.

Dan Martin

Man I don't know how that isn't dropped. It looks at least an inch lower than stock. Looks great though!

Belzebutt

Yeah I know... on both pictures I have a little bit of weight in the back, the 4 OEM wheels. On the side view, it's sitting on a little bit of a slant. But it really doesn't look very different now sitting flat, I think it's just that this size of tire on these wheels really fills the wells nicely. I'm really happy with it, I was a bit concerned that the tires would be too wide but it's really perfect.

InspireSiR

Hey Belzebutt,

I know you said you have no rubbing issues, but that's because your car isn't lowered. Are the tires sitting underneath the fender? Or is the tire completely inside the wheel well?

InspireSiR

Trying To Hide My Screen From Boss Heheh

Belzebutt

They're completely inside:

theARCHITECT

I just picked up a set of 18" ron jon inspyres, and they should be here on monday...
I have been looking at a set of rubber for them but also have been going back in forth between 225's and 235's. I'd take the 235's, but I also am going to put the a-spec susp. on there. think it'll fit?

...it's those 235's and the rim design that make the gap between the wheel well look so damn small... i love it.

theARCHITECT

Does anyone have any suggestions on tires as well?

I want summer tires, but i am out here in seattle, lotsa rain but snow happens maybe one or two days a year. Can i still go with summer tires, or how much am i sacrificing going for some A/S?

Possible A/S:

Toyo Proxes 4
Pirelli PZero Nero M/S
Yokohama AVS dB S2

Possible Summer:

Toyo Prozes T1-S
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD
Yokohama AVS ES100
Nitto NT 555 XP

I know these tires vary quite a bit in price, but are you really getting what you pay for?

Thanks in advance, i'm a nooB on tires...

Dan Martin

You've got good taste in tires.

The two days a year that you get snow in Seattle will be completely undrivable on summer tires but if that's not a big concern then I'd recommend summers for sure. The Toyo T1-S is soon to be replaced by the T1-R and I'm going to get a set when they're readily available. The T1-S is an amazing tire so since you've got the rims coming in next week and you probably don't want to wait for the rubber to get here, the T1-S is still a good choice.

Any of your choices for A/S tires are good ones. I'd probably either go Perelli or Toyo and I don't really have any preference over another. I'd go for whatever is cheaper.

theARCHITECT

Thanks for the input...

what about things other than snow? are the summer tires worse on cold pavement, and will they handle WELL in heavy rain?

Do you know what the T1-R's will offer in comparison to the T1-S's?

The difference in price on the A/S is $186 for the Proxes 4 on sale from 230, or the Pirelli's for $129. Is the Toyo really that much better of a tire?

Dan Martin

Here's the site for the T1-R: http://www.toyojapan.com/new_tires/index2_1.html

Sounds like a pretty major redesign:
The T1-S is no slouch so this should be quite the tire. Wet handling is not a problem with properly designed summer tires. The T1-S and T1-R will stick like glue in the wet.

As far as the A/S tires are concerned, we have members with both types. I'm sure they'll be able to address your questions a little better than I can.

Deelover

Depending on the rim offset the 235's with the A-Spec should be ok. Hell I didnt think 235's would fit on a 7.5 rim but I guess so. The TL A-spec rims are sick 18x235 on an 8 inch rim. Would look awesome on a TSX if it fits.

theARCHITECT

Someone on this site has them... but i thought they were 8.5" The new Ron Jons i just got are 7.5"

I think i am going to go with the proxes 4... from what i have read, you really don't give up much for the A/S rating on these particular tires... unless i can be convinced that a summer tire like the T1-S's will far outperform the proxes 4, i am not willing to give up my car for the few days a year that it does snow.

JTso

iTrader: (2)

Why can't you simply use the stock wheels/tires for the few snow days?

theARCHITECT

I would but the problem is that i work like 15 mi. and across a lake from my house. I would be screwed if it started snowing when i was away from my stocks. plus i live in an apartment where i can't really leave them just sitting out. i would have to leave them at my parents house or a friends house, and then they are still not going to be there when i need them. with those kind of problems, i figure i might as well sell them (hell they've got like 1000 mi. on them). thanks for the suggestion though...

xizor

in general, people who use different wheels for winter slap them on before snow season and leave them till it stops. so i'll have mine on for nov-mar.

Newplay1

Hate to say it but thread design looks exactly like Kuhmos 712's now.

Dan Martin

Similar but I guess the center groove is a giveaway.

ianS

I have 225/40/18 P-Zero Nero M&S and used to have T1S before. They both are excellent. You give up a bit cutting edge preformance but returning a way more comfortable and quiet ride on PZero. And also PZero is almost half the price of T1S. But PZero has a very rounded edge that make it didn't look good at all but if you have a aggressive offset and want 235 wide then it maybe a safe point for avoiding the rubbing. :blaze: BTW, I think Proxy 4 is almost the same price as P-Zero Nero isn't it?

TSX Hokie

I'd say the new T1-R looks more like the Dunlop SP Sport 9000 than anything. Care to post a pic comparison for those 2 Dan?

The T1-S is already an awesome tire, with the only complaints being soft sidewall and noisy, the two things they seem to have addressed with the T1-R.

Dan Martin

Sure:

Newplay1

SP9000 are awesome tires.... 2 of my buddies have it (RSXs)

I used to have toyo FZ4 and they were ok...

theARCHITECT

Honestly, a comfortable ride is pretty important to me. the 235 should help, and i have a +50 offset so i think i should be ok.

The proxes 4 are much more expensive than the nero m+s, but it's also because the neros are on tirerack and the proxes would be bought locally at les schwab.

anyone ever get their tires siped? is this worth it?

theARCHITECT

were the toyo a/s just ok? are they worth the extra coin or am i just wasting my money all together by paying so much for an a/s?

Newplay1

FZ4 are very light and its hella better compare to stock mich pilots.... try 1010tires.com they have some TOYOS instock.

theARCHITECT

In the past it seems people have liked the FZ4's, but after reading about the newer 4's, it just seems like an upgraded replacement. far better dry handling, and much better wet braking (i'm in seattle). They also apparently are quieter, have a bigger rim protector, and have a traction rating of AA. Just ordered me some, they'll be here friday.

check out the site Dan Martin posted earlier - http://www.toyojapan.com/new_tires/index2_1.html

27_

I have Bridgestone Pole Position S-03's, 225/40 and there is no way in hell a 235 would fit on my 7.5 inch rim (with these tires at least). Called Bridgestone to confirm and they said the website was correct in requiring an 8" rim with the 235. Sidewall would be under too much stress due to the amount of flex needed to meet the rim. Said ride would be softer and load carrying ability would be compromised.

Viking

Well we know the 235/40/18 tires fit on a 7.5 inch rim since Post #8 in this thread has them. But as far as softer ride and load carrying abilities, Bridgestone would be the authority for their tires. Got any links to back up what Bridgestone told you?

27_

Just the website which gives the minimum rim width at 8". As for fitment, I should have said a 235 would fit but would look like crap (225's already look buldging)! I suppose we could fit all sorts of tire sizes on a 7.5 inch rim, 245/40's would fit if you "jammed" them on too. All I'm saying is just because they fit doesn't mean they're right. Look at all the tire manufacturer websites (Bridgestone, Michelin, Toyo) that say an 8" rim is a requirement for a 235 tire.) They're obviously not saying it without a reason.

Lung Fu Mo Shi

If you say so. I did, Bender Unit did, and probably 50% of the aftermarket wheels here for the TSX are 235 on a 7.5" wide wheels.

Kumho also specs their 235 tires to fit on 7.5" rims.

xizor

what you smoking?

27_

I'm not arguing that people have fit 235's on a 7.5" rim, but why then an 8" requirement by most major tire manufacturers? Just answer me that...is there a conspiracy for us to buy an 8" rim, probably not. They have a requirement for a reason, just because your tire hasn't fallen off or blown-up doesn't mean it's running properly.

Viking

Ok. I have seen the specs for the S-03 which is my preferred summer tire. I was just looking to see if you knew of any links to how Bridgestone had documented their calculation of the rim width range. It's like how the TSX OEM specs for tires indicates a load rating of 93 but I could not get a definitive answer from my Acura dealer or Tirerack on why it's 93 load rating.

The S-03 in 235/45 for the 17" rims meet the Bridgestones specs. Bridegestone S-03 spec provided by Tirerack