19' inch wheels vs. lowering your car..
10-26-2008, 02:54 AM
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19' inch wheels vs. lowering your car..
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I've been thinking about lowering my car with the Tein CST for a while to reduce the huge gap above the tires, to make it look sleek etc.. However, I was thinking that I can probably reduce the gap by putting some 19' inch wheels (probably the Works T1 Varianza's). I'm not sure if anyone here has put 19' inch wheels on their TSX and whether it made the car look nicer? Also, does putting 19' inch wheels on the TSX make it slower to accelerate? would you guys recommend this move? I have some great wheels on my mind -
http://www.workwheelsusa.com/product...ry=24&wheel=50
Thanks..
I've been thinking about lowering my car with the Tein CST for a while to reduce the huge gap above the tires, to make it look sleek etc.. However, I was thinking that I can probably reduce the gap by putting some 19' inch wheels (probably the Works T1 Varianza's). I'm not sure if anyone here has put 19' inch wheels on their TSX and whether it made the car look nicer? Also, does putting 19' inch wheels on the TSX make it slower to accelerate? would you guys recommend this move? I have some great wheels on my mind -
http://www.workwheelsusa.com/product...ry=24&wheel=50
Thanks..
10-26-2008, 03:19 AM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tsx-photograph-gallery-127/end-summer-pics-56k-go-eat-balut-691336/
^these are 19's lowered on Tein CST
and below are the rims you want, in 19", on a lowered TSX.
-lowered using Tein Flex
they are the black chrome finish.
I think you ordered the black polish, so that'll be the only difference.
I think you've seen this before though...
pics are from hawaiiantsx
you can pm hawaiiantsx or maybe he'll see this and comment here.
he can tell you everything you need to know.
I strongly suggest not putting any rims on your car until you lower it.
put suspension (the CST's) on and the rims on at the same time, then
go get an alignment. that's your best bet.
rims with no drop = 4x4 and not good looking.
^these are 19's lowered on Tein CST
and below are the rims you want, in 19", on a lowered TSX.
-lowered using Tein Flex
they are the black chrome finish.
I think you ordered the black polish, so that'll be the only difference.
I think you've seen this before though...
pics are from hawaiiantsx
he can tell you everything you need to know.
I strongly suggest not putting any rims on your car until you lower it.
put suspension (the CST's) on and the rims on at the same time, then
go get an alignment. that's your best bet.
rims with no drop = 4x4 and not good looking.
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10-26-2008, 08:14 AM
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Suspension, wheels, kit - in that order.
10-27-2008, 02:58 PM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691336
^these are 19's lowered on Tein CST
and below are the rims you want, in 19", on a lowered TSX.
-lowered using Tein Flex
they are the black chrome finish.
I think you ordered the black polish, so that'll be the only difference.
I think you've seen this before though...
pics are from hawaiiantsx
you can pm hawaiiantsx or maybe he'll see this and comment here.
he can tell you everything you need to know.
I strongly suggest not putting any rims on your car until you lower it.
put suspension (the CST's) on and the rims on at the same time, then
go get an alignment. that's your best bet.
rims with no drop = 4x4 and not good looking.
^these are 19's lowered on Tein CST
and below are the rims you want, in 19", on a lowered TSX.
-lowered using Tein Flex
they are the black chrome finish.
I think you ordered the black polish, so that'll be the only difference.
I think you've seen this before though...
pics are from hawaiiantsx
you can pm hawaiiantsx or maybe he'll see this and comment here.
he can tell you everything you need to know.
I strongly suggest not putting any rims on your car until you lower it.
put suspension (the CST's) on and the rims on at the same time, then
go get an alignment. that's your best bet.
rims with no drop = 4x4 and not good looking.
10-27-2008, 03:11 PM
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That's what I hate, I know full well I can't pull the trigger on wheels until I can afford a drop as well. It sucks so bad.
But I have a question.... in my head I had thought the logical order would be wheels and then suspension so you know exactly how much you can/want to bring the car down with the new wheels on. Why is it recommended to do suspension first and THEN wheels?
But I have a question.... in my head I had thought the logical order would be wheels and then suspension so you know exactly how much you can/want to bring the car down with the new wheels on. Why is it recommended to do suspension first and THEN wheels?
10-27-2008, 04:36 PM
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That's what I hate, I know full well I can't pull the trigger on wheels until I can afford a drop as well. It sucks so bad.
But I have a question.... in my head I had thought the logical order would be wheels and then suspension so you know exactly how much you can/want to bring the car down with the new wheels on. Why is it recommended to do suspension first and THEN wheels?
But I have a question.... in my head I had thought the logical order would be wheels and then suspension so you know exactly how much you can/want to bring the car down with the new wheels on. Why is it recommended to do suspension first and THEN wheels?
...
no seriously.
it looks rather stupid most would say to have aftermarket wheels
without a nice drop.
we don't need to buy the wheels first to know if they will fit or not.
or if they will rub or not. or how low you can go with them.
it's all a pretty exact science.
you tell me/us the diameter/width/offset and the tire's
width/sidewall/diameter and I/we can tell you if you'll rub or not or
whatever.
it's about looks.
a dropped car with stocks still looks pretty nice.
a car with rims and no drop looks silly.
the variation in tire widths with the same rating is small, and that info
is easily found by a quick online search. there's not much guess work
really that goes into fitting rims on this car.
because luckily many have come before us and tried just about everything,
so we can see examples and hear testimonies from scores of previous owners.
10-27-2008, 05:31 PM
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It is unfortunate that our car is prone to the hideous 4X4 look rather easily.
If you are going to do it, do it right, I believe in that firmly, don't cheap out because I can pretty much guarentee you it will bite you in the ass later.
So that means the Works that I love and covet so, translate into a 4-5 grand bill.
I know there's no guessing work involved in wheel/tire choices, as you said M, there have been many before us to lay down the path. I would assume with the ease and quality of adjustable coilovers, it's as easy as lowering the car right down to where you want it exactly.
Or, if you could be so kind as to address one more concern I have, (Sorry for the thread hi-jack deznium, 1 more and i'll be out of your thread)
Living this far north, Canadian winters are a definate issue, so what worries me is even with coilovers set a max height, and with settling taken into effect, can I safely drive hither and tither without becoming a snowplow?
no kit, and obviously snowfall levels are the X factor.
If you are going to do it, do it right, I believe in that firmly, don't cheap out because I can pretty much guarentee you it will bite you in the ass later.
So that means the Works that I love and covet so, translate into a 4-5 grand bill.
I know there's no guessing work involved in wheel/tire choices, as you said M, there have been many before us to lay down the path. I would assume with the ease and quality of adjustable coilovers, it's as easy as lowering the car right down to where you want it exactly.
Or, if you could be so kind as to address one more concern I have, (Sorry for the thread hi-jack deznium, 1 more and i'll be out of your thread)
Living this far north, Canadian winters are a definate issue, so what worries me is even with coilovers set a max height, and with settling taken into effect, can I safely drive hither and tither without becoming a snowplow?
no kit, and obviously snowfall levels are the X factor.
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10-27-2008, 05:50 PM
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yes, coilovers are fine in the winter/Canada.
there are tons of Canadians with them.
they just take their nice rims off, raise the suspension back to about
stock height, put the stock or some other winter rims/tires on, and
off they go for the winter.
in the summer, they just do the reverse and drop 'er on down again
with nice rims on. no issues.
there are tons of Canadians with them.
they just take their nice rims off, raise the suspension back to about
stock height, put the stock or some other winter rims/tires on, and
off they go for the winter.
in the summer, they just do the reverse and drop 'er on down again
with nice rims on. no issues.
10-28-2008, 12:02 PM
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Hi folks...
I've been thinking about lowering my car with the Tein CST for a while to reduce the huge gap above the tires, to make it look sleek etc.. However, I was thinking that I can probably reduce the gap by putting some 19' inch wheels (probably the Works T1 Varianza's). I'm not sure if anyone here has put 19' inch wheels on their TSX and whether it made the car look nicer?
I've been thinking about lowering my car with the Tein CST for a while to reduce the huge gap above the tires, to make it look sleek etc.. However, I was thinking that I can probably reduce the gap by putting some 19' inch wheels (probably the Works T1 Varianza's). I'm not sure if anyone here has put 19' inch wheels on their TSX and whether it made the car look nicer?
10-29-2008, 03:26 AM
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would a 19x8.5 with 40mm offset do the job along with tein coilovers? and putting 235/35/19? the rims that i like the most for the tsx its only how i explained above! any help would be appreciated!
10-29-2008, 04:06 AM
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8.5 is the widest you want a rim.
19 is probably the biggest diameter you want.
+40 is the lowest offset for cars that have a real drop.
if you can, get a higher offset to prevent rubbing.
maybe something more like +45
or a 19x8 +42 or something.
I'm fairly certain you will rub with the listed combo.
that's the right size tire at least, but without rolled fenders
and tucked liners I would think you would rub at times.
10-29-2008, 01:48 PM
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you will rub for sure with that set up. i was running 1.75" drop with 18" rims with 38 offset and i rubbed like a biatch. i switched for a 45 offset rim and never rub now. i wouldn't get anything under 45.
10-29-2008, 03:43 PM
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Correct me if i'm wrong... but doesn't your rub-ability not only depend on ur offset, but ur width as well? So let's say i have a 8 inch wheel and then a wheel that's 8.5 inches. Even if they are both +45 offset, the 8.5 inch will stick out further since the extra .5 of an inch will get split evenly on both sides of the rim. ??
Wut i'm trying to get at is, so let's say hypothetically if +40 is the lowest offset we can go on a 8.5 inch wheel then in that case if i get an 8 inch wheel i can go LOWER than +40.
Wut i'm trying to get at is, so let's say hypothetically if +40 is the lowest offset we can go on a 8.5 inch wheel then in that case if i get an 8 inch wheel i can go LOWER than +40.
10-29-2008, 04:11 PM
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nope.
that's not really how it works at all.
the hub of the rim does not sit in the middle.
the width, for the most part, almost entirely, moves the
rim closer to the suspension, not outwards.
the offset is the moving outwards measurement.
so an 8 inch +40 and a 8.5 inch +40 should rub about the same.
with +40, you'll need to roll your fenders most likely if you drop enough.
I run +48 and am dropped low, no rubbing.
usually, anything under +45 and you're looking at having to tuck your liners.
or maybe even roll fenders. or run negative camber some, whatever you choose.
that's not really how it works at all.
the hub of the rim does not sit in the middle.
the width, for the most part, almost entirely, moves the
rim closer to the suspension, not outwards.
the offset is the moving outwards measurement.
so an 8 inch +40 and a 8.5 inch +40 should rub about the same.
with +40, you'll need to roll your fenders most likely if you drop enough.
I run +48 and am dropped low, no rubbing.
usually, anything under +45 and you're looking at having to tuck your liners.
or maybe even roll fenders. or run negative camber some, whatever you choose.
10-29-2008, 09:35 PM
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If the hub of the rim sat in the middle it would be a 0 offset
If a rim was lets say 400 mm wide (random number i picked), and 0 offset, then the distance from the hub to the outside would be 200mm and the distance from the hub to the opposing side would also be 200mm. As the offset grows, so lets say we go +50, then that means the hub is moving 50mm towards the strut housing. so one side is thus 150 mm and the other 250mm
atleast this is the way i've understood it to mean from these offset calculators
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
Maybe that's all theoretical junk and in practice it proves to be different, but i dunno.
If a rim was lets say 400 mm wide (random number i picked), and 0 offset, then the distance from the hub to the outside would be 200mm and the distance from the hub to the opposing side would also be 200mm. As the offset grows, so lets say we go +50, then that means the hub is moving 50mm towards the strut housing. so one side is thus 150 mm and the other 250mm
atleast this is the way i've understood it to mean from these offset calculators
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
Maybe that's all theoretical junk and in practice it proves to be different, but i dunno.
10-31-2008, 04:15 PM
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nope.
that's not really how it works at all.
the hub of the rim does not sit in the middle.
the width, for the most part, almost entirely, moves the
rim closer to the suspension, not outwards.
the offset is the moving outwards measurement.
so an 8 inch +40 and a 8.5 inch +40 should rub about the same.
with +40, you'll need to roll your fenders most likely if you drop enough.
I run +48 and am dropped low, no rubbing.
usually, anything under +45 and you're looking at having to tuck your liners.
or maybe even roll fenders. or run negative camber some, whatever you choose.
that's not really how it works at all.
the hub of the rim does not sit in the middle.
the width, for the most part, almost entirely, moves the
rim closer to the suspension, not outwards.
the offset is the moving outwards measurement.
so an 8 inch +40 and a 8.5 inch +40 should rub about the same.
with +40, you'll need to roll your fenders most likely if you drop enough.
I run +48 and am dropped low, no rubbing.
usually, anything under +45 and you're looking at having to tuck your liners.
or maybe even roll fenders. or run negative camber some, whatever you choose.
that's really pushing it.
8.5 is the widest you want a rim.
19 is probably the biggest diameter you want.
+40 is the lowest offset for cars that have a real drop.
if you can, get a higher offset to prevent rubbing.
maybe something more like +45
or a 19x8 +42 or something.
I'm fairly certain you will rub with the listed combo.
that's the right size tire at least, but without rolled fenders
and tucked liners I would think you would rub at times.
8.5 is the widest you want a rim.
19 is probably the biggest diameter you want.
+40 is the lowest offset for cars that have a real drop.
if you can, get a higher offset to prevent rubbing.
maybe something more like +45
or a 19x8 +42 or something.
I'm fairly certain you will rub with the listed combo.
that's the right size tire at least, but without rolled fenders
and tucked liners I would think you would rub at times.
10-31-2008, 04:29 PM
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but b4 anything, the reason why i asked about 19x8.5 with 40mm offset was because a friend of mines, owned a 2005 acura tsx artic blue pearl and he put those wheels in his car and they looked flush with the fenders and liner and i don't know how! unfortunately i have no contact with him because he moved away! his car had just about everything at the time it came out like for example, oem a-spec kit, coilovers,euro-r grill, m3 rear lip, exhaust etc... thats why i was wondering because i remember his tires where 235/35/r19. and i really liked the way it looked!! i'm either going to see if i find a different set of black wheels with higher offset or try to contact him and see how he did it! but i really thank you all for opinions and the help provided!
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Hi folks...
I've been thinking about lowering my car with the Tein CST for a while to reduce the huge gap above the tires, to make it look sleek etc.. However, I was thinking that I can probably reduce the gap by putting some 19' inch wheels (probably the Works T1 Varianza's). I'm not sure if anyone here has put 19' inch wheels on their TSX and whether it made the car look nicer? Also, does putting 19' inch wheels on the TSX make it slower to accelerate? would you guys recommend this move? I have some great wheels on my mind -
http://www.workwheelsusa.com/product...ry=24&wheel=50
Thanks..
I've been thinking about lowering my car with the Tein CST for a while to reduce the huge gap above the tires, to make it look sleek etc.. However, I was thinking that I can probably reduce the gap by putting some 19' inch wheels (probably the Works T1 Varianza's). I'm not sure if anyone here has put 19' inch wheels on their TSX and whether it made the car look nicer? Also, does putting 19' inch wheels on the TSX make it slower to accelerate? would you guys recommend this move? I have some great wheels on my mind -
http://www.workwheelsusa.com/product...ry=24&wheel=50
Thanks..
You wanna see 19s wit no drop.....I got Pics ...https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=23 Dont be like this Asshole ...LOL
12-11-2008, 08:10 PM
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I still don't completely understand why using 19 inch wheels will not cover/reduce the gap between tires and the fender. Aren't the 19 inch wheels supposed to have a larger circumference? I know 18 inch will probably not cover all of the gap so that's why you'd drop the car a bit to reduce the gap, but 19 inch wheels should do the trick right - I mean reduce the gap... Correct me on what I'm missing...
Sorry if this has been asked earlier..
Sorry if this has been asked earlier..
12-12-2008, 12:44 AM
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I still don't completely understand why using 19 inch wheels will not cover/reduce the gap between tires and the fender. Aren't the 19 inch wheels supposed to have a larger circumference? I know 18 inch will probably not cover all of the gap so that's why you'd drop the car a bit to reduce the gap, but 19 inch wheels should do the trick right - I mean reduce the gap... Correct me on what I'm missing...
Sorry if this has been asked earlier..
Sorry if this has been asked earlier..
no matter if you have 16, 17, 18, whatever inch rims, the wheel
gap between the tire and fender will be the same.
the larger the diameter of the rim, the smaller the inner diameter of
the tire you use, aka lower profile.
the outside diameter of the rim/tire combo is supposed to stay the
same, no matter what rim you are running.
so a 17 inch rim will have about a 50 sidewall.
and an 18 inch rim will have about a 40 sidewall.
and with a 19 inch rim, I would run a 35 sidewall.
bigger rims equal slimmer tires.
overall size stays the same. therefore not affecting any wheel gap.
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yeah, you are mistaken.
no matter if you have 16, 17, 18, whatever inch rims, the wheel
gap between the tire and fender will be the same.
the larger the diameter of the rim, the smaller the inner diameter of
the tire you use, aka lower profile.
the outside diameter of the rim/tire combo is supposed to stay the
same, no matter what rim you are running.
so a 17 inch rim will have about a 50 sidewall.
and an 18 inch rim will have about a 40 sidewall.
and with a 19 inch rim, I would run a 35 sidewall.
bigger rims equal slimmer tires.
overall size stays the same. therefore not affecting any wheel gap.
no matter if you have 16, 17, 18, whatever inch rims, the wheel
gap between the tire and fender will be the same.
the larger the diameter of the rim, the smaller the inner diameter of
the tire you use, aka lower profile.
the outside diameter of the rim/tire combo is supposed to stay the
same, no matter what rim you are running.
so a 17 inch rim will have about a 50 sidewall.
and an 18 inch rim will have about a 40 sidewall.
and with a 19 inch rim, I would run a 35 sidewall.
bigger rims equal slimmer tires.
overall size stays the same. therefore not affecting any wheel gap.
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