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Who would win: TSX vs JDM Accord vs Euro Accord Type-R
11-04-2004, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MSZ
ok dude, I don't want to turn it into a fight here. This would be my last post in this thread.
I have read the Jeff's review before, even though I haven't drove an Euro-R before I can't agree with all of what he said there. Comparing an Accord-R to Integra-R is just wrong, I thought Integra is supposed to be faster than an Accord anyway.(Who is going to buy ITR if its slower than the Accord? Honda already made a mistake to put the same K20A engine into Civic Type-R) Can I say ITR is not a real Type-R because its slower than the NSX-R?
TSXs suspension is indeed 5% stiffer than the Euro-R, but the weight difference is still the huge adventage for the Euro-R(Its actually 60kg lighter than the JDM 24TL not 40. I made a mistake in my last post.), plus the shorter gear ratio for the 6MT, 220hp K20A, MOMO-made steering wheel, Rekaro bucket seats...etc. Euro-R sounds like a true Type-R to me.
And once again Honda Japan decided to name it Euro-R back in 1997 because they don't want the buyers to have ANY confusion. Since the Euro-R and the European spec Type-R aren't the same thing at all.
I have read the Jeff's review before, even though I haven't drove an Euro-R before I can't agree with all of what he said there. Comparing an Accord-R to Integra-R is just wrong, I thought Integra is supposed to be faster than an Accord anyway.(Who is going to buy ITR if its slower than the Accord? Honda already made a mistake to put the same K20A engine into Civic Type-R) Can I say ITR is not a real Type-R because its slower than the NSX-R?
TSXs suspension is indeed 5% stiffer than the Euro-R, but the weight difference is still the huge adventage for the Euro-R(Its actually 60kg lighter than the JDM 24TL not 40. I made a mistake in my last post.), plus the shorter gear ratio for the 6MT, 220hp K20A, MOMO-made steering wheel, Rekaro bucket seats...etc. Euro-R sounds like a true Type-R to me.
And once again Honda Japan decided to name it Euro-R back in 1997 because they don't want the buyers to have ANY confusion. Since the Euro-R and the European spec Type-R aren't the same thing at all.
we got stiffer suspension cuz we r hella heavy and our tires sux hell .. ~~ making the suspension stiffer is alwayss cheaper to buy better tires ~ and well there is Type-R in Euro only .. ~~ but that doesn't meant the 2 generation Euro-Rs r not true Type-Rs and i think they r .. and there wont be another Type-R for Accord .. ~~ check the Australia spec Integra Type-R ... it's same as our RSX Type-S .... so can u say it's not a true Type-R .. ~~ 
This happens in many Jap cars .. ~~ see the NIssan ... we got more power with the Z .. then the 280hp Z in jap is not the true Z ???? ~
11-04-2004, 04:52 PM
#44
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Most of the AWD models that Honda offers in Japan are lower end models...
ie 4WD Accord, Domani, Civic... they have the smallest output...
lower end as in, lower trim....
ie 4WD Accord, Domani, Civic... they have the smallest output...
lower end as in, lower trim....
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