This will be kind of long but I'm going to try and provide all the information I can. I have been all over here searching and digging for information but so far nothing i've found has helped. I started feeling steering wheel vibrations around 6 months ago or so. My tires were around the point they needed to be replaced and it felt as if there was just an unbalanced tire so I bought 4 new ones and had them balanced. When the shop replaced the tires they discovered that one of my rims was bent along the inside which is probably why i felt the wobble. Had the rim fixed along with the new tires. Still wobbles when i drive. Slight wobble at about 30, noticeable wobble at 40, worse at 60 and then smoothes out some around 90 and up. So I still felt it was a possible unbalanced tire or maybe even whatever caused the bent rim messed up my alignment. So had the tires balanced again and an alignment done. STILL wobbles. No more or no less. Ok now i figure it's that rim that was "repaired". On to a new set of wheels and yet another set of tires...STILL WOBBLES! Now the mechanics are thinking it's in the suspension. I have eibach springs but still stock shocks and approaching 100k miles. So new shocks are installed..didn't help at all. So I got online here and seached for days and read everything i could and it seemed that my problem was my axles....so I replaced them. AND YOU GUESSED IT.....STILL WOBBLES when i drive. Steering wheel moves side to side about a half inch back and forth but the car drives straight with just a slight pull to the right but nothing too significant. And you just feel the whole car "shake" as you are moving. So now after spending a nice lump of money on this very annoying problem and not getting any results I really need your guys help. With it being tax time I really don't want to spend my return at the stealership and have them look at it. Or even worse have to trade in my baby for another car Additional info: I've had more than five shops and mechanics look at it and from what they can tell there isn't anything loose in the suspension or any play anywhere.

 

jack your car up, grab the tire at 9 and 3 o'clock position and try to shake it. Repeat with 12 and 6.

if excessive movement (play, loose, whatever you want to name it)
@ 9 and 3 = tie rod ends, maybe rack and pinion
@ 12 and 6 = wheel bearing, maybe upper ball joint, and maybe upper control arm bushing

 

I watched the mechanic try this with no play either time. However I'll repeat and try it when I get home. Thanks.

 

This car has never been in an accident right?

When they did your alignment, was there any issue getting it back to spec? You said you have the Eibachs... are you lowered with those or stock height? How many alignments have they done?

When you pulled off all of the old tires, did they all seem to have even wear? Excessive wear there might at least help ou nail down the problem corner.

Have you had to right rear control arm replaced mentioned in the TSB a while back? Haven't heard of it being this much of a problem... mainly the TSB was to help keep the camber on that wheel in spec but maybe you've worn it completely out of camber spec.

This one is a long shot, but have the mechs look at your brake and ensure you aren't dragging a pad on one of the front wheel.

If I was a betting man, I'd say you have either an alignment issue or some slop in your rack and pinion. Probably to the point of needing an actual dealer visit as they should know our cars the best.

 

When the car was just a few months old I hit a deer. Most of the damage was to the radiator and hood of the car, directly in the middle of the grill.

I don't know how much out of spec the car was for the first alignment because i wasn't at the shop when they did it. The car is lowered 1.5 or so on the eibach springs and stock shocks. There have been a total of 3 alignments done with the last two the car was not much out of spec it at all.

Now I do remember the right rear tire being worn unevenly a while back when i rotated my tires. But since this problem it hasn't returned. Unless the tires being rotated and balanced each time has hidden this issue and not allowed the wear to become noticeable. I have not heard of the TSB you mentioned but will look into it right now.

The brakes were also added to the equation and looked over with no signs of them being an issue.

Thanks for your input and I will most likely be taking it in as soon as I can.

 

Hit a deer? That can do alot of damage. You may have whacked something on the frame or another suspension component slightly off spec which could generate the wobble. How fast were you going when you hit the deer?

 

Knowing you hit a deer... you may be looking at some frame issues. A minor out of square frame can cause issues with vibrations.

How much out of spec are you is the next question. If you're lowered, you should have added some components so you can properly align the car since you have likely exceeded the range of stock adjustments for proper alignments. I've never been a big proponent of lowering cars for the simple fact that you are messing with the designed alignment and ride characteristics. To each his own.

 

Two quick thoughts...

Steering rack (maybe damaged in the collision)

Bad motor mount(s)

Just saying, the motor mounts would cause the issue to mimic axle/cv problems...the rack would potentially cause looseness on center...

 

Could the issues of that past accident just start to surface now? I mean it was early 2005 when it happened and I've had no issues since the repair. I've had no problems with the handling of the car or any of the suspension. Thanks everyone for the input.

Are there ways to test each theory without replacing the suspect components? I only ask because i've spent so much money already with no results. But at least I feel i'm closer to nailing it down once and for all.

 

Itchy- I was going about 60 and was able to slow to about 40 or so at impact.

 

Did you ever get this issue resolved? And when were you getting the vibrations? All the time? While accelerating?

Mc

 

im going through the same prob ive had tboth axles replaced. still have that shak/vibration at 60+. i got new wheels,tires,balance,and aligned still same prob.
no accidents.
i finally went to a front end specialist and told me another tsx had the same prob, and only the stock axles were able to fix the prob.
but i cant drop 700+ a pop

 

Thats is very discouraging. I am having this problem and was hoping a axle rebuild would do the trick. I guess depending on how bad your current axles are messed up, the only fix at times could be to have them replaced with new ones.

PS. I have a 6sp and am limited with replacement on options with mine

 

Make sure that when you are mounting your wheel on the hubs you are being careful! What I mean is if you have aftermarket wheels, make sure you have the hub centric rings for them! Mount the rings in the wheel first so it sits tight in, place the wheel on the hub and screw the lugs on hand tight! Do not use impact tools! Do each lug 1/4 turn in criss-cross pattern, either stock or aftermarket wheel! You want it dead center on the hub!

I went through same thing. I replaced axles and did not help; however 2 days ago I took my time with the wheels and mounted them dead on! I have been driving for 2 days now with no vibration over 55mph!

I posted this on the other forum I belong to:

http://www..com/forums/1st-gen-engin...wheel-lsd.html

 

this was happening to my car as well. I replaced the tires today, and its as smooth as an s-class. Mb its ur tires? i had low profile high performances on before, and thats when the vibration was happening. I bought the OEM michelin's for it, and it stopped

 

I am having the same problem. Right around 100k i started noticing a vibration in the wheel. I replaced the tires. Had it aligned and still have it. I can the feel the vibration in the whole car. The wheels are tight struts are tight no front end problems at all. I also replaced the rotors and pads on the front and back. My tsx used to drive so smooth and now it feels like i am driving on a gravel road. Everything is stock expect the tires. I put Arizonian's cause i did not want to fork out 850 for the Michelins. But i don't think that would make that big a difference. I am wondering if a warn out motor mount could be the culprit? It feels like i can feel way to much of the road!!

 

I'm also trying to diagnose a driveline vibration in my '05. I had the Toyo Proxes 4 tires (on stock wheels) rotated, balanced, and aligned, but it's still there. In fact it's getting worse. The axle/CV boots all look good, and I can't detect anything with the wheels off the ground.

Here's the kicker: It is worse when I start out down the highway (75 mph) and gets better after 5 miles or so (but never goes completely away)....

 

Well i just replaced my axles and thought i had a bad carrier bearing in the intermediate axle. Went ahead and replaced that to but to my dismay i don't think it was bad. i have not had a chance to drive it yet because I left it at the dealer for the recall. I will let you know how it drives after I get it back.

My cv boots did not look bad either but there was some play in the axle and i bought brand new empi axles for 85 apiece. Just because the boot is not ripped does not mean that it is not wearing out.

 

have you tried to change the wheels from one side to the other or front to back etc? When the balance your wheel they do check if they are well balanced horizontsaly not verticaly. Do not know how to say it couse i'm from europe. Ask them to check if your wheel did not became an egg. pe you get it . 2nd thing may be axles. Especially inner CV joint. Grab the axle near the inner cv and rty to shake so you will know what's up- but it's new I assume. The other thing may be lowe rocker arm - but you will have shaking only when accelerating or when the car is loaded (heavy)- it will shake more or less at the max tourgue 3500 rpm . I can have bet that those are wheels or tires.-try to change the wheels possition and let me know - good luck.

 

SORRY GUYS - this refers to the inner CV joint not the rocker arm

but you will have shaking only when accelerating or when the car is loaded (heavy)- it will shake more or less at the max tourgue 3500 rpm .

 

Did changing out your axles fix your problem? And did you go with OEM axles?

 

It rides better on the highway now, but i think one of the axles is bad because i get an acceleration vibration when there is a lot of torque on the axle. So i need to switch it out. I am gonna try and do it next week.

 

Keep us updated. I've got empi axles as well. They've been good for a year or so, but I'm starting to feel a little bit of vagueness on center and vibration. Not enough to replace them though....

 

Did you ever get this resolved?

 

Another possible cause of some vibration could also be the rear control arms. If one or both are bad it can cause misalignment that causes a "dragging effect" of the rear wheels. At least that is what the dealer told me.
It will also chew up your tires prematurely.

 

I am also experiencing a vibration from the front end. 06 with 60K miles.

ONLY under acceleration, and only from about 54mph to 60mph, then it clears up. It's worst in 3rd gear (sport shift) but present in 4th as well. I let off the gas, the side to side vibration in the front end goes away.

No wrecks, dealer installed Yoko SDrives (everything else bone stock).

Any thoughts?

 

Ok, well i'm also getting this annoying problem too. Thanks for the tips on eliminating possible failures. I will do some tests tomorrow.. Is there any way to make certain that my axles are shot?

 

Dealership just called me.

"too much play in the bearing of the inner drive shaft" causing vibration under load.

New inner drive shaft = $500+

What would cause this on a 4 year old car?

 

They just called back.

Dealership called me and told me that my intermediate drive shaft is, in fact, fine suddenly, and that I need a new axle. WTF?

Luckily they said they would honor the original drive shaft quote of $550 for the install of the new axle, which makes me pretty suspicious.

Why in the WORLD does an axle fail on a 4 year old car that is not tracked or driven super hard with no mods and mostly highway miles?

 

I replaced the carrier bearing on my intermediate axle. I did not help. There is going to be some play some there. Its a small bearing and the shaft weighs 8 maybe 10lbs. As long as spins decent on the axle it should be fine. I ended up switching out the passenger side brand new empi axle for a rebuilt factory axle and that stopped the acceleration vibration. However i still have a highway cruising vibration that moves the steering wheel about a half inch side to side. I am at a loss to what is causing this. Also my front rotor(s) keep warping. I have replaced them twice now. I am going to do a test on Tuesday gonna switch out the passenger side and drive the car to try to isolate if it is just that rotor or both. I suspect the passenger because i hit a curb back in october and blew out my tire. if stops smooth after i replace the rotor i am going to take in it for a bearing replacement on that side and see if the stopes the problem.

In the last two months i have replaced
Axles, passenger side twice
intermediate axle carrier bearing
rear rotors and pads
front rotors(twice now) and pads
tires
and two allignments
total spent 2,450$
ugh

When i add the cost of the clutch the speed sensor and the prevoius set of tires i bought, i am at aroun 5,500$ in one year for maintanice This is more then i spent on my 85 prelude (drove for 4 years) and my 93 Integra (drove for 4 years) combined.

 

To those of you have have replaced both axles, especially those if you that have replaced front LCA bushings, how does $300 sound for labor for the installation of axles and the pressing and replacement of front control arm bushings?

Thanks,
Mc

 

Stogie,
Did you ever get this resolved? If do, what was the outcome?

 

trying buying slotted or drilled rotors to take care of the warping issue it took car of mine

 

Had my half shafts replaced about a year ago. Update on thread here: https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tsx-problems-fixes-128/help-new-drive-shafts-my-2006-tsx-they-serious-817134/

The mechanic/owner where I got the work done remarked that there is still a *slight* wobble even after the shaft and boot replacements. He thinks it's a TSX problem and has no idea why it would be doing that given the age of my car and all the work I had done.

 

I wonder if these front end vibrations or "wobbles" could be the luck of the draw. My 05 cruises as smooth as glass at very high speeds (85-90) for hours on end on a regular basis. I use a few different sets of tires and wheels, and some are better than others (some balance perfectly, other's not so much). But with the best ones, I swear you could stand a quarter on edge at 90 mph (assuming the road is smooth enough). I'd say the same applies to my wife's 07. I think I'd have trouble living with the verdict that "it's a TSX problem".

 

I just resolved a "vibration under acceleration" problem in my 94 Accord EX after driving for 1.5 yrs w/ very annoying vibration when accelerating. I replaced both front axles twice w/ Autozone axles.

I bought and installed Raxles cv axles and problem was completely resolved. They each cost about three times ( ~$200) as much as AZ axles w/o a core return, but I was able to return the AZ axles for a store credit. Raxles are new parts and also include the vibration dampner which none of AZ axles had.

It's once again a pleasure to drive my old Accord.

regards

 

Try getting a road force balance.
I've had my tires balanced multiple times and still had vibration. I know my alignment was good but went to get another one, but the alignment guy suggested i try road force balance first, http://www.gsp9700.com/
Also check to see if rotors are good. That also caused a lot of vibrations.

 

packed up ship and drove across the country with my 08 tsx packed to the roof. right around weight limit. CT to WA, a few months later, i started noticing a slight vibrating in my steering wheel from around 60mph to about 70mph. regardless of whether I'm giving it gas or not, when i brake it amplifies the vibrating a bit. until i drop down below 55-60. i had an alignment prior to my trip because my pwr steering rack broke and got replaced($1000 covered by warranty!). i recently had an oil change and the dealership checked my tires and gave it a "yellow" (green=good yellow=change soon red=change NOW)

i'm curious whether driving across the country at weight limit could be causing it 3 months later,

I'm thinking either pads/rotor replacement or new tires, any advice?





08TSX 65k

 

Classic axle or intermediate shaft wobble...the speeds are a dead giveaway.

If you are below 70,000 miles (I assume 65k is 65,000 miles), it should be a covered item. '06 and on had a 5/70k driveline warranty that covers axles and intermediate shaft. Push the dealer and document it BEFORE 70k if they don;t want to do anything at first.

See:

https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tsx-problems-fixes-128/shaking-vibration-only-when-accelerating-781497/