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Old 10-31-2005, 09:03 AM
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Seatbelt "reminder" disable?

I am hoping someone has a solution to this for me. I need to disable that ridiculous seatbelt reminder chime. Anyone know how to do this without causing other problems? The thing drives me up a wall whenever I have my belt off at a driveup ATM, moving the car in the driveway, or just driving down to the corner store and I simply decide not to "click it" - thanks for the help!
Old 10-31-2005, 09:23 AM
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Mine doesn't chime but a few times on startup... after that, it is just a light on the dash.

Are you saying yours chimes all the time?
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yes,

all the time if I don't have the belt buckled
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might be an 05 thing
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05 thing! and it doesn't stop ever till you click it! Sucks! I just click it to shut the thing up. Would like to hear a way to shut it up without affecting anything else.

I feel you!
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Best thing about the '04 is this MISSING feature-no dings, no chimes, no nanny reminders, just the silent bliss of driving in peace and quiet-like the old days. Possibly one of the last existing new models without this mandated nuisance and a real deal-sealer for those of us who detest it.
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Agreed! any tech help out there?

I long for the day I can drive without "Big Brother" in the car with me. We've got to be able to find a way to kick his chimey butt out of the car!
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you can click it and sit on top of it.
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I'm guessing the mechanism makes contact of some kind, you could figure out which wires are which and just hard-wire them, as if your seatbelt was always latched.

I hate the friggin chime (I have the '04, but I still feel you) -- I know my seat belt isn't latched. It's like cars that lock their own doors at a certain speed and then unlock them when you put the car into park, or maybe they don't, or whatever jackass scheme of door locking and unlocking the factory door-lock dorks decided on. Here's a news flash for you: with power locks, I can handle the door lock decision-making process and execute my decision all by myself. Thanks anyway.

Sorry, off on a tangent.
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I understand how you fell. I posted this when I bought my car and the moderator closed my post. Cant mention disabling a security function or something. Dont know how secure I'd be without the chime. lol

It is rediculous. You should have the option to turn it on or off. Dealer said it can not be turned off. I then said why? He said it's a safety feature. I said, so then the 2004s are less safe? blank stare......
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Wow,

Sounds like I am in good, but frustrated company on this one!
I absolutely hate that thing and it doesn't sound like anyone has a "technical" solution short of getting a wiring diagram and following leads. And, no, I am not going to click it and sit on the seatbelt!

I did get one tip from my local dealer of an unnamed non-Honda brand as we also have an '05 from them with the same "security" feature. But in this case the "ding, ding" is constant right from startup until you click it - no "grace period" like in the TSX. The dealer also said they couldn't disable the chime but I pleaded with the guy in the shop and even offered him $50 cash to disable it or at least give me the instructions to do it myself - he said couldn't do it but really empathized.

When I returned to pick up the car from it's other service he did me a huge favor by making a little brass O-ring that mimicks the seatbelt latch. It works great, but you have to deal with putting it in and out when you want to shut the "ding-a-ling" off. I can post a picture of it if anyone is interested in seeing this little gem as I am sure that anyone could make it for $0.02.

I was hoping for a better solution for my beloved TSX....

Here's to hoping...
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If they're that interested in encouraging safety they'd have a chime come on every time you started talking on your cell phone. Gimme a break, safety feature. Don't get me wrong, I wear a seatbelt 100% of the time when I'm driving (or riding for that matter), but there are the occassions, like he mentioned, when you have to unbuckle it with the engine running. Shouldn't have to sit there and endure the obnoxious-as-hell dinging chime.
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Originally Posted by jeffstsx05
. . . a little brass O-ring that mimicks the seatbelt latch. It works great, but you have to deal with putting it in and out when you want to shut the "ding-a-ling" off . . .
That's along the lines of what I was thinking. I'm sure it's kind of a pain, but better than sitting there in the drive thru, unclicking your belt, fishing for your wallet, the kids are hollering about McNuggets in the back seat, and the whole time the car is blaring at you that -- oh my God! dingdingdingdingding! -- you've unbuckled your seatbelt.
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On my CRX, there was a wire that plugged into the seatbelt... All I did was release the plug, and the "seatbelt light" never came back on.

I haven't taken out the TSX seat, but you might want to start there.
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If you defeat this safety feature just don't let your insurance company catch you.
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I actually know a way to stop the beeping without damaging any other parts.

Its pretty simple and will end your trubles. You twist your back and reach over...then grab the seat belt and put it in the recieving end. Then the noise stops. Will that work? I havent tryed this myself but seems like a simple solution.
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Very insightful,

I was waiting for someone to say that!
Just wait until you have to unbuckle the belt when reaching for your wallet with a screaming kid in the backseat - let's see how patient you will be with "ding-a-ling, a ling- ling, ling!" blaring at you!
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Ok. lets clear this up.

If the car is in drive and you do not have your seat belt on, it will wait like 20 seconds and go 'ching' and 'ching' twice. Then it will wait about another 20 seconds before it goes 'ching' and 'ching' again. It is not a constant 'ching' 'ching' 'ching' etc.

Given that, why on earth are you guys not wearing your seat belts? It would take less then 20 seconds to reach over and grab what yopu need to grab and put the belt back on.

Sorry, i've had a friend who died and many seriously injured because they do not like wearing a seat belt.
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guys...if you really are goign to take ur seat belt off to grab whatever, u should really put it in park, that way it wont ding and u'd know the car isnt' going to go anywhere.
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Originally Posted by narci
Ok. lets clear this up.

If the car is in drive and you do not have your seat belt on, it will wait like 20 seconds and go 'ching' and 'ching' twice. Then it will wait about another 20 seconds before it goes 'ching' and 'ching' again. It is not a constant 'ching' 'ching' 'ching' etc.

Given that, why on earth are you guys not wearing your seat belts? It would take less then 20 seconds to reach over and grab what yopu need to grab and put the belt back on.

Sorry, i've had a friend who died and many seriously injured because they do not like wearing a seat belt.
Yes, but isn't that my choice? I do not hurt others by not wearing my seat belt, only myself...unless I'm thrown out of the car on impact, and hit an old lady in the head with my flailing body, killing her dead.
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Originally Posted by JayRoam
On my CRX, there was a wire that plugged into the seatbelt... All I did was release the plug, and the "seatbelt light" never came back on.

I haven't taken out the TSX seat, but you might want to start there.

I gotta believe this is the best answer. Of course, I don't have the issue.

However, I do not have the electric wiring manual [cough, cough]... JTso??
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Originally Posted by CSpaR
Yes, but isn't that my choice? I do not hurt others by not wearing my seat belt, only myself...unless I'm thrown out of the car on impact, and hit an old lady in the head with my flailing body, killing her dead.
I wasn't going to go there, but, we're there....

Yes, it is your choice. But if you get into a fender-bender or lose control and wind up in a ditch and bust up your face then your insurance company will pay for your medical bills, and then pass those costs onto the rest of us via higher rates. So, we all wind up paying.
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Originally Posted by CSpaR
Yes, but isn't that my choice? I do not hurt others by not wearing my seat belt, only myself...unless I'm thrown out of the car on impact, and hit an old lady in the head with my flailing body, killing her dead.
No it's not your choice because it's the law to wear a seatbelt.
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Originally Posted by jlukja
I wasn't going to go there, but, we're there....

Yes, it is your choice. But if you get into a fender-bender or lose control and wind up in a ditch and bust up your face then your insurance company will pay for your medical bills, and then pass those costs onto the rest of us via higher rates. So, we all wind up paying.
Will insurance even cover his medical costs if he wasn't wearing a seatbelt?
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Will insurance even cover his medical costs if he wasn't wearing a seatbelt?
I don't know. But if lawyers get involved then those costs get passed onto us too.
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Originally Posted by jlukja
I don't know. But if lawyers get involved then those costs get passed onto us too.
I guess either way it's bad news.

If he does get covered, all other insurers will suffer through insurance hikes. (one of my best friends onws a single insurer brokerage and he tells me the cost of replaing a car or fixing a car is so small compared to paying out medical claims. Medical claims is the mian cause of high insurance rates.)

If he doesn't get covered, he'll have to food his own bill.

Either way his insurance will go up and he'll probably be chargd with not wearing a seatbelt and be seriously hurt and enough demerit points from not wearing a seatbelt to have his license suspended.
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Step back a minute...

Gee, I'm so glad I posted this topic that has now gone off on an insurance and personal rights tangent. I think we all need to step back a minute and ponder the following:

First, seatbelts are a personal safety device and require the driver to wear it for it to work. No one but the driver can choose to wear it, and no one but the driver can control the vehicle while driving and therefore is in a position to make driving related decisions. The seatbelt reminder chime doesn't know it's being moved in the driveway / at the ATM / at McDonalds reaching for money - but it dings anyway assuming the driver is making the wrong choice by not wearing his/her belt.

Secondly, we all know where automatic seatbelts of the 1980's ended up right? Exactly: in the trash because they annoyed the hell out of 90% of people who had those cars.

Whether you choose to wear it or not is an individual choice, no one can make you wear your belt no matter what law there is on the books. For those of you who disagree, think about it: laws that try to force people to do things in their private time/space is an attempt to socially mandate personal choices. We all know this doesn't work very well (sounds like socialism to me!)

Bottom line is that seatbelts protect and save lives we all know this.

But at the end of the day, its up to the driver him/herself to decide to wear it or not. And as such, automakers should allow their customers to choose whether or not they want a "ding-a-ling" reminder or not.

After all, if the government and society trust us to drive a car on the open road where a million bad and terrible things can happen, why not then trust us to make the right choice when it comes to wearing a seatbelt? Why? Politics and Money:

Politics: No public official wants to be in office when driving deaths caused by low seatbelt use is shown to be on the rise. Solution: force automakers to install seatbelt reminders in all their vehicles!

Money: Fines and enforcement related to non-seatbelt use have dramatically increased in the past 5 years. "Click it or ticket" ring a bell to anyone? This of course is tied to politics as well.

Well, at least it is still a "free" country last time I checked - and I hope it stays that way.
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Toyota Matrix beeps every half second....ding ding ding ding ding ding untill you put it on. I tried to wait it out. No luck. The Tsx beeps every 20 seconds? Thats so much better. More like music then.
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Darwin would love this thread.


Originally Posted by jefftsx05
After all, if the government and society trust us to drive a car on the open road where a million bad and terrible things can happen, why not then trust us to make the right choice when it comes to wearing a seat belt?
Because it's obvious you're not capable of making the right choice.

Laws are in place to protect the population. If everyone got along and used common sense we wouldn't need laws or reminders to fasten our seatbelts.

Unfortunately the chromosome that makes people not want to fasten their seatbelts when they know they'll likely die in a crash has not yet been identified by science, so we're forced to let natural selection weed out the defectives from our society. Eventually after a few generations we won't have any need for seat belt warnings because that trait will be missing from our DNA.

So just accept the warnings for now and hopefully in your 3rd or 4th reincarnation we won't have them anymore.
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Originally Posted by jeffstsx05
Gee, I'm so glad I posted this topic that has now gone off on an insurance and personal rights tangent. I think we all need to step back a minute and ponder the following:

First, seatbelts are a personal safety device and require the driver to wear it for it to work. No one but the driver can choose to wear it, and no one but the driver can control the vehicle while driving and therefore is in a position to make driving related decisions. The seatbelt reminder chime doesn't know it's being moved in the driveway / at the ATM / at McDonalds reaching for money - but it dings anyway assuming the driver is making the wrong choice by not wearing his/her belt.

Secondly, we all know where automatic seatbelts of the 1980's ended up right? Exactly: in the trash because they annoyed the hell out of 90% of people who had those cars.

Whether you choose to wear it or not is an individual choice, no one can make you wear your belt no matter what law there is on the books. For those of you who disagree, think about it: laws that try to force people to do things in their private time/space is an attempt to socially mandate personal choices. We all know this doesn't work very well (sounds like socialism to me!)

Bottom line is that seatbelts protect and save lives we all know this.

But at the end of the day, its up to the driver him/herself to decide to wear it or not. And as such, automakers should allow their customers to choose whether or not they want a "ding-a-ling" reminder or not.

After all, if the government and society trust us to drive a car on the open road where a million bad and terrible things can happen, why not then trust us to make the right choice when it comes to wearing a seatbelt? Why? Politics and Money:

Politics: No public official wants to be in office when driving deaths caused by low seatbelt use is shown to be on the rise. Solution: force automakers to install seatbelt reminders in all their vehicles!

Money: Fines and enforcement related to non-seatbelt use have dramatically increased in the past 5 years. "Click it or ticket" ring a bell to anyone? This of course is tied to politics as well.

Well, at least it is still a "free" country last time I checked - and I hope it stays that way.
I'm with you on the ATM and McDonalds argument, but you also said..
Originally Posted by jeffstsx05
just driving down to the corner store and I simply decide not to "click it"
and I don't agree with you there. Why not just keep the seatbelt clicked when at the ATM or the drive though. If you need to reach waay out the window and the seatbelt is restricting you then maybe putting it in park is the safer option. Also, rember that driving is a privilege, not a right. You are issued a licensed to drive on the condition/understanding that you will follow the law. If the law requires you to wear a seatbelt and you insist on not, then theoretically you will lose your license (i.e. your privilege to drive).

I also think you missed on your Money reasoning. The bottom line is wearing seatbelts saves lives and reduces medical costs. Seatbelt laws are not enacted to raise revenue from "no seatbelt" tickets. Fines and enforcement have gone up because the laws have become more widespread.
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Laws are in place to protect the population. If everyone got along and used common sense we wouldn't need laws or reminders to fasten our seatbelts.

That is such a comment. LOL
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That is such a comment. LOL
It's a good one hahaa

GO GOMERY!

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I gotta believe this is the best answer. Of course, I don't have the issue.

However, I do not have the electric wiring manual [cough, cough]... JTso??
Unplugging the seatbelt buckle switch connector under the seat will turn on your SRS light and likely render the SRS inop.
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I do not have the electric wiring manual [cough, cough]... JTso??
I have the electrical manual but it doesn't cover 05. Just cut the wire, but not the blue one...
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For those that said that "its My choice" and it only affects me, You should really think about your loved ones. How would you feel, hypothetically speaking, if someone close to you died in a car accident because they flew through the windshield when they could've had a chance with the belt on...Not that great. So its not only you're life thats affected if something happens...you should really think about that.
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My freind has an 05 BMW and what he did is went to the junk yard and cut the seat belt buckal out of a wrecked car and just put it in the seat belt slot and works great
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I remember long time ago when I was driving an older domestic car with a bench seat. I didn't like wearing the seat belt and didn't think I need to, until one time I was making a turn a little faster than the car or I was able to handle. I ended up sliding across the bench seat and sat in the passenger side, with my hands off the steering wheel! From that moment on, I realized how important the seat belt was, not just for protecting you from an accident but also keep you in your seat to maintain control of the car. Now, I actually drive better with the seat belt on.
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the beep goes away i believe guys! for my 05 model, i think i waited over 30 seconds, and it finally stopped beeping but the light on dash still there.
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i tend to feel naked without my seatbelt on personally, i guess i just grew up with always putting it on.

i could see how it'd be annoying though. my uncles house is like 2 blocks from my parents, so i drove over once. didnt put on my seatbelt and it chimed. then it stopped and chimed again about 20 seconds later. i havent driven long enough belt less to see how long it goes, but yeah the chime is annoying and if it just kept going for 20 seconds and you didnt want to wear a seatbelt it'd ddrive you crazy.


also someone mentioned auto seatbelts. my dad had a 1989 nissan maxima (the first 4DSC haha, nice car) and a few years after he got it when i was like 10 years old, i was sitting in the front with the door closed waiting for my dad. so i was holding the railing of the door for some reason and when he came in and started the car, the seatbelt rolled up the track for it and my finger got caught in it. hurt like hell, and i only got it to go back the other way by opening the door with my free left arm. those auto seatbelts apparently had no sensors to tell if someones finger was caught in it, i hated them after that incident.
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Originally Posted by CSpaR
I understand how you fell. I posted this when I bought my car and the moderator closed my post. Cant mention disabling a security function or something. Dont know how secure I'd be without the chime. lol

It is rediculous. You should have the option to turn it on or off. Dealer said it can not be turned off. I then said why? He said it's a safety feature. I said, so then the 2004s are less safe? blank stare......
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