Rear Sway Bar Link TSB (98-05 Accord)
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Rear Sway Bar Link TSB (98-05 Accord)
http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/at...chmentid=43887
Found this on a site I was browsing through today and since we share so many parts with the 03+ Accords, I figured I'll post it up.
Found this on a site I was browsing through today and since we share so many parts with the 03+ Accords, I figured I'll post it up.
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Originally Posted by yuhoo22
doh! another TSB? Wonder how this affects the guys with the Comptech and Progressive RSB?
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I haven't even seen a draft of a TSB for us yet. Maybe it won't happen. You'll usually see a draft version a couple weeks before they post the official bulletin. Nothing yet...
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Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
I haven't even seen a draft of a TSB for us yet. Maybe it won't happen. You'll usually see a draft version a couple weeks before they post the official bulletin. Nothing yet...
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
If we do get one, what are the chances of them fixing it if we have a RSB?
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Sorry for the ignorant question. What is the easiest way to see the sway bar links? I have a rattle from the rear end that only seems to happen on rolling-type bumps that compress the rear springs a bit. This also happens when I take a sharp turn sometimes, or even going over a rolling dip in the road. I have heard of others on here having a rattle from back there, and they found one or both of their links broken. BTW - I only have 1250 miles on the car.
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This problem has happened to me and another TSX member. I had my left end link replaced under warranty while the other member had his right rear replaced. So it may have something to do with our TSX.
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For those with SB, it could be a case to say they won't warranty it, but it is a simple enough switch back to the original bar and problem solved.
Another reason to keep your OEM parts handy. :-)
Another reason to keep your OEM parts handy. :-)
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Careful, its for the Accord not the TSX (although they are similar)
Mine (left rear) was broken long time ago and I replaced it myself for $35 buck.
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Originally Posted by moda_way
For those with SB, it could be a case to say they won't warranty it, but it is a simple enough switch back to the original bar and problem solved.
Another reason to keep your OEM parts handy. :-)
Another reason to keep your OEM parts handy. :-)
Im sure I've over torqued the endlink connections by now...One thing I remember from the install was that the bar ends didnt really sit flush with the link. Frustrating...
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Im almost positive we share the same endlinks as the accords. The only reason they haven't posted a TSB for the TSX yet is because there aren't enough TSX complaints about them. They sell much more Honda Accords than TSXs so the chances of accord customers going back to the dealership for endlink problems are greater than TSXers.
The new replacement endlinks are thicker than the factory endlinks.
The new replacement endlinks are thicker than the factory endlinks.
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either my eyes are playing tricks on me, or i have to agree that the replacement endlinks are beefier than the original ones. now my left endlink is thicker than the right one, will that affect handling in any way?
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Originally Posted by kaikai114
either my eyes are playing tricks on me, or i have to agree that the replacement endlinks are beefier than the original ones. now my left endlink is thicker than the right one, will that affect handling in any way?
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Even if it drove the same. i'd be paranoid enough to make them the same.
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Originally Posted by Master47
Sorry for the ignorant question. What is the easiest way to see the sway bar links? I have a rattle from the rear end that only seems to happen on rolling-type bumps that compress the rear springs a bit. This also happens when I take a sharp turn sometimes, or even going over a rolling dip in the road. I have heard of others on here having a rattle from back there, and they found one or both of their links broken. BTW - I only have 1250 miles on the car.
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Originally Posted by Alin10123
Take it back to the dealer. Have them look at it. It should be covered under warranty.
I looked last night, my links look to be ok, and I could see the yellow paint on the right one that Accord TSB talks about (I couldn't see the marking on the left one), so I would say they are still installing the "old" ones at the factory considering I have only had it a month.
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Which i'm about to do if I can't figure out why the HELL my Comptech is causing bumps.
Im sure I've over torqued the endlink connections by now...One thing I remember from the install was that the bar ends didnt really sit flush with the link. Frustrating...
Im sure I've over torqued the endlink connections by now...One thing I remember from the install was that the bar ends didnt really sit flush with the link. Frustrating...
Just a thought-- is it possible that the Comptech SWB is upside down? The only reason I ask is that when a friend and I installed mine, he handed it to me under the car upside down at first, and (i) the endlinks did not line up and (ii) there no clearance with the car's undercarriage in the middle-- which is where I think the "bump" may be coming from. When we flipped the bar, everything lined up and there was adequate clearance between the SWB and the car.
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joerockt:
Just a thought-- is it possible that the Comptech SWB is upside down? The only reason I ask is that when a friend and I installed mine, he handed it to me under the car upside down at first, and (i) the endlinks did not line up and (ii) there no clearance with the car's undercarriage in the middle-- which is where I think the "bump" may be coming from. When we flipped the bar, everything lined up and there was adequate clearance between the SWB and the car.
Just a thought-- is it possible that the Comptech SWB is upside down? The only reason I ask is that when a friend and I installed mine, he handed it to me under the car upside down at first, and (i) the endlinks did not line up and (ii) there no clearance with the car's undercarriage in the middle-- which is where I think the "bump" may be coming from. When we flipped the bar, everything lined up and there was adequate clearance between the SWB and the car.
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Originally Posted by jlukja
You mean its not perfectly flat? From all the pictures I've seen it looks flat. This is a good thing to keep in mind when installing. Rep points for you.
No, the bar is not perfectly flat, although it appears that way from the picture on their website. However, I think one can sort of make out the contours of the SWB from some of the pics posted in the SWB DIYs elsewhere on the board.
Also, [ not intending to ] during my install I noted that Comptech's directions also fail to discuss (i) the allen key hole in the shank of the endlink bolt (discussed at length elsewhere on this board) and (ii) the fact that torque specs on the endlink nut (28 ft-lbs, I think) cannot be precisely achieved with a standard torque wrench, because one cannot simultaneously access the allen key hole in the shank of the endlink bolt and place a torque wrench over the endlink nut. Most guys I have talked to just torqued it by feel.
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Originally Posted by cl7tsx
joerockt:
Just a thought-- is it possible that the Comptech SWB is upside down? The only reason I ask is that when a friend and I installed mine, he handed it to me under the car upside down at first, and (i) the endlinks did not line up and (ii) there no clearance with the car's undercarriage in the middle-- which is where I think the "bump" may be coming from. When we flipped the bar, everything lined up and there was adequate clearance between the SWB and the car.
Just a thought-- is it possible that the Comptech SWB is upside down? The only reason I ask is that when a friend and I installed mine, he handed it to me under the car upside down at first, and (i) the endlinks did not line up and (ii) there no clearance with the car's undercarriage in the middle-- which is where I think the "bump" may be coming from. When we flipped the bar, everything lined up and there was adequate clearance between the SWB and the car.
It makes sense what your saying though. I guess its back under the car this weekend...
Thanks for pointing that out!
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Ah crap, I hope thats not the reason. I was wondering about this when I first installed it, but it looks the same when flipped either way
It makes sense what your saying though. I guess its back under the car this weekend...
Thanks for pointing that out!
It makes sense what your saying though. I guess its back under the car this weekend...
Thanks for pointing that out!
Somone needs to post a pic of the CORRECT installation.
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Ah crap, I hope thats not the reason. I was wondering about this when I first installed it, but it looks the same when flipped either way
It makes sense what your saying though. I guess its back under the car this weekend...
Thanks for pointing that out!
It makes sense what your saying though. I guess its back under the car this weekend...
Thanks for pointing that out!
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by cl7tsx
One other thing: if you choose to reinstall, drive the car (preferably around some curves) before judging whether your clearance has improved. I noticed that once I drove the car after the install, the clearance improved as the sway bar assumed its natural position. I had jacked up my car and removed the Pass. rear wheel for ease of installation (as other DIYs had suggested), which in turn had loaded the rear suspension on the driver's side.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Will do!
Here is a thread I found on another board regarding sway bars being installed upside down, I guess its possible then
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Will do!
Here is a thread I found on another board regarding sway bars being installed upside down, I guess its possible then
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Here is a thread I found on another board regarding sway bars being installed upside down, I guess its possible then
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Originally Posted by xizor
I'm pretty sure its not possible for ours. I actually tried one time just to see what happens. The way its bent, its more or less impossible to connect the end links to the bar. I didn't try however, just lined it up.
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Well, Im willing to try anything at this point...Im gettin desperate
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Originally Posted by xizor
what do you mean by "causing bumps", I'm not quite getting what the exact problem is
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Originally Posted by Alin10123
Yes, since there's less flex in the thicker one.
Even if it drove the same. i'd be paranoid enough to make them the same.
Even if it drove the same. i'd be paranoid enough to make them the same.
now i'm praying that my right rear link breaks too so i can have dealer replace it :
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Anytime I go over bumps, or uneven surfaces, I get a loud "thump" "bump" or "clank" what ever you want to call it. Like metal is hitting or shifting. Its been there since the day I installed it.
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Originally Posted by xizor
sounds like the end link, maybe loosen the bolt up and grease it?
And I think the reason why its not sitting flush is because its in upside down...has to be...
I'll find out this weekend...
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Dude, I've tried many things with those bolts. I've come to the conslusion that the bar isnt sitting flush with the end link, thus causing shifting, thus causing the clanking.
And I think the reason why its not sitting flush is because its in upside down...has to be...
I'll find out this weekend...
And I think the reason why its not sitting flush is because its in upside down...has to be...
I'll find out this weekend...
My left and right end links dont sit exactly the same. Actually it looks like right side is more squeezed to the side while left has a full range of space. I do notice a "clank" sound going over speed bumps on the right side only, so that may be the problem. Are you going to be at the meet on saturday? If you are, then we can take a look at it.
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Originally Posted by kaikai114
My left and right end links dont sit exactly the same. Actually it looks like right side is more squeezed to the side while left has a full range of space. I do notice a "clank" sound going over speed bumps on the right side only, so that may be the problem. Are you going to be at the meet on saturday? If you are, then we can take a look at it.
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Originally Posted by joerockt
I wish I could make it, but Im going to be down in SD on Saturday.
jlukja, who looked for joerockt at the Irvine meet