View Poll Results: What type of RSB do you have? Any dmg'd mounts?
Comptech no damage
33
56.90%
Comptech w/ damage
4
6.90%
Progress
8
13.79%
Neuspeed
0
0%
Stock
13
22.41%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll
Poll: Comptech RSB break your mounts?
03-07-2007, 02:19 PM
#1
C'mon, man! Row yer own.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: WDMIA
Age: 57
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Poll: Comptech RSB break your mounts?
I have the Comptech RSB and don't have any visible damage to the mounting points after two years. Still, I think it'll be informative to see how many people have the Comptech RSB and, of those, how many have mounting bracket damage a la this thread.
Thanks for participating!
Thanks for participating!
03-07-2007, 02:47 PM
#4
Rebourne
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Age: 42
Posts: 868
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
currently have stock, been thinking about getting progress since last summer as I will be installing an aftermarket exhaust. Hopefully everything goes well......
03-07-2007, 02:55 PM
#6
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,632
Received 3,845 Likes
on
2,575 Posts
dont have a bar yet which others have told me is pretty funny. will be getting prgress or swift when I do.
03-07-2007, 03:09 PM
#7
Audi Driving Snob
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,694
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Of those that do report damage I think it would be very interesting to hear what kind of bushing you are running. Seems that both cases so far have used polyurthane replacements for the rubber ones that comptech comes with
Trending Topics
03-07-2007, 04:35 PM
#9
ABP TSX
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Rep of TX
Posts: 2,061
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by TinkySD
Of those that do report damage I think it would be very interesting to hear what kind of bushing you are running. Seems that both cases so far have used polyurthane replacements for the rubber ones that comptech comes with
Entire list of suspension related modifications:
March 04, 2004 @ 5,560 miles - Shop installed Eibach Prokit with stock dampers
March 04, 2004 @ 5,560 miles - Shop installed Ingalls rear camber kit
March 11, 2004 @ 5,915 miles - Self installed Neuspeed upper strut
March 24, 2004 @ 6,275 miles - Self installed Comptech Sway w/rubber busings
Sep 23, 2005 @ 25,112 miles - Self installed ES polyurethane bushings
Dec 03, 2005 @ 27,913 miles - Self installed Cusco Type II
Jan 27, 2006 @ 28, 456 miles - Replaced damaged Cusco Type II
May 27, 2006 @ 33,350 miles - Shop installed Tanabe Sustec Pro OC Type II
Nov 22, 2006 @ 39, 102 miles - Shop installed Rays G-Games 77W 1PC 18"
Feb 21, 2007 @ ~44k miles - Detected broken sway bar mount after clunking noise
I never heard a clunk until a few days before I found the broken mount. So I do not think the mount was broken long before I started hearing the very obvious clunking. I am very aware of "noises" and my car, even with all the mods, is pretty quiet and rarely makes strange noises.
03-07-2007, 05:48 PM
#11
Suzuka Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Age: 49
Posts: 7,594
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
3 Posts
I'm pretty sure I've had my CT bar on for over 37k miles, but I have no damage and from the looks of it, everything is 100%. All the pressure welds look fine and there is no sign of warping, stress or fracture that can be seen.
68k miles on the car
FWIW, VIN 6400, June 2003 pickup
ES Bushing: 9.5158R greaseable bushings (required bushing bracket modification)
68k miles on the car
FWIW, VIN 6400, June 2003 pickup
ES Bushing: 9.5158R greaseable bushings (required bushing bracket modification)
03-07-2007, 05:55 PM
#12
No problems so far....but I just put mine on last thursday.
BTW, I have the 2nd generation CT RSB...mine came with poly bushings and not rubber bushings.
BTW, I have the 2nd generation CT RSB...mine came with poly bushings and not rubber bushings.
03-07-2007, 08:33 PM
#13
stock rsb.
i have the comptech rsb in my trunk. waiting to install once the weather gets better. however, given the current discussions going on right now, i'm becoming a little hesitant.
i have the comptech rsb in my trunk. waiting to install once the weather gets better. however, given the current discussions going on right now, i'm becoming a little hesitant.
03-08-2007, 09:23 AM
#15
Instructor
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TC, Mn
Age: 49
Posts: 211
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Comptech w/ their rev 1 rubber bushings and no damage visible to mounts. I've had it on the car for about 1 year (18k miles). About to change to ES poly though, so this is indeed interesting.
03-08-2007, 09:39 AM
#16
C'mon, man! Row yer own.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: WDMIA
Age: 57
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I'm planning on installing Tein Basics on my TSX this spring and, with the increased roll resistance of those dampers, I may go ahead and reinstall the stock sway bar.
As much as I enjoy the idea of flat cornering, I'd hate to have to go through the mess of either finding someplace to weld my mounts if they break or else replace the subframe (at least $600 just in parts). The car is my daily driver and I bought it for it's reliability, I don't want to do anything that will have the car in the shop for a week.
I'm anxious to hear what the solutions were for the two people who have broken mounts.
As much as I enjoy the idea of flat cornering, I'd hate to have to go through the mess of either finding someplace to weld my mounts if they break or else replace the subframe (at least $600 just in parts). The car is my daily driver and I bought it for it's reliability, I don't want to do anything that will have the car in the shop for a week.
I'm anxious to hear what the solutions were for the two people who have broken mounts.
03-08-2007, 10:18 AM
#17
where is my garage?!
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: nassau county, ny
Age: 47
Posts: 1,857
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Originally Posted by peter_bigblock
I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I'm planning on installing Tein Basics on my TSX this spring and, with the increased roll resistance of those dampers, I may go ahead and reinstall the stock sway bar.
As much as I enjoy the idea of flat cornering, I'd hate to have to go through the mess of either finding someplace to weld my mounts if they break or else replace the subframe (at least $600 just in parts). The car is my daily driver and I bought it for it's reliability, I don't want to do anything that will have the car in the shop for a week.
I'm anxious to hear what the solutions were for the two people who have broken mounts.
As much as I enjoy the idea of flat cornering, I'd hate to have to go through the mess of either finding someplace to weld my mounts if they break or else replace the subframe (at least $600 just in parts). The car is my daily driver and I bought it for it's reliability, I don't want to do anything that will have the car in the shop for a week.
I'm anxious to hear what the solutions were for the two people who have broken mounts.
my sentiments exactly!
03-08-2007, 02:22 PM
#18
TF500
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sydney Australia
Age: 64
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think it's the thickness of the bar that's the problem(22mm)not the type of bushes that are used.I've got an 18mm RSB on mine.Installed it when car was new,now 8 mths.later and 15000kms.later no problems.BTW i have poly bushes.
03-08-2007, 03:38 PM
#19
ABP TSX
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Rep of TX
Posts: 2,061
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by peter_bigblock
I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I'm planning on installing Tein Basics on my TSX this spring and, with the increased roll resistance of those dampers, I may go ahead and reinstall the stock sway bar.
As much as I enjoy the idea of flat cornering, I'd hate to have to go through the mess of either finding someplace to weld my mounts if they break or else replace the subframe (at least $600 just in parts). The car is my daily driver and I bought it for it's reliability, I don't want to do anything that will have the car in the shop for a week.
I'm anxious to hear what the solutions were for the two people who have broken mounts.
As much as I enjoy the idea of flat cornering, I'd hate to have to go through the mess of either finding someplace to weld my mounts if they break or else replace the subframe (at least $600 just in parts). The car is my daily driver and I bought it for it's reliability, I don't want to do anything that will have the car in the shop for a week.
I'm anxious to hear what the solutions were for the two people who have broken mounts.
03-08-2007, 05:32 PM
#20
Burning Brakes
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by tf500
I think it's the thickness of the bar that's the problem(22mm)not the type of bushes that are used.I've got an 18mm RSB on mine.Installed it when car was new,now 8 mths.later and 15000kms.later no problems.BTW i have poly bushes.
Progress have tested 27mm bars of their design (no idea how that differs from OEM, Comptech, H&R, or Swift) and it was only at that thickness did they encounter issues which required beefing up the endlinks and mount points.
They have since dropped back to 24mm for the circuit cars, and 22mm for what Joe Public can buy for road use.
Where the issue resides, allegedly, is that the Comptech bar was sliding in the bush at the mounting position, instead of purely just twisting/rotating as per design.
This latteral movement meant the bar was not working to design and created higher levels of stress than intended.
Progress limit this potential by welding butts/plates on either side of the mounting D clamp, so the bar can only flex up and down or rotationally in a twisting motion.
Perhaps all that's required is to use a slightly smaller bore bush on each mounting D clamp section of the bar, so that there is less chance of the bar moving laterally.
That or a higher torque on the clamp bolts to compress the bush (whatever type), again so that it creates more friction for the bar to overcome laterally.
03-09-2007, 05:21 AM
#21
Suzuka Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Age: 49
Posts: 7,594
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
3 Posts
Originally Posted by gsclifton
I updated the other thread. Essentially, I found someone who is going to MIG weld the mounts. Then, I am going back to stock. I know only 2 ppl (me and another) have had the problem, but the mod is not worth the potential problems IMO.
I posted this in the other thread.
Just a bit of a reality check, I did the math. There will be roughly 100,000 TSXs on the road at the end of 2007. We have 2 people with this issue constituting .002% of the future population. To potentially mitigate this issue, I think we all, with non OEM stock RSBs, should liberally (only time I'll use that word
) apply lithium grease to prevent any binding between the bushings and the bar. This should eliminate concerns around side to side movement of the bar. Just a thought.
03-09-2007, 06:41 AM
#22
Photography Nerd
I have 80,000K on the Comptech Bar and the only problems I've run into were squeaky bushings. Since I switched to white lithium grease, I haven't heard a sound in 10,000+K.
03-09-2007, 06:45 AM
#23
Suzuka Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Age: 49
Posts: 7,594
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
3 Posts
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I have 80,000K on the Comptech Bar and the only problems I've run into were squeaky bushings. Since I switched to white lithium grease, I haven't heard a sound in 10,000+K.
03-09-2007, 07:39 AM
#24
Someone stole "My Garage"
Originally Posted by moda_way
Makes me wonder if the bars might be binding up on the ES poly bushings.
), I think I'm going to get a plethore of white lithium grease in there ASAP. Next oil change is in a week or two -- I'll do it at that time. 
03-09-2007, 07:43 AM
#25
Suzuka Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Age: 49
Posts: 7,594
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
3 Posts
Originally Posted by curls
That's what I'm thinking as well... and since my poly bushings are creaking/squeaking like freakin' crazy in this cold weather (since about November ), I think I'm going to get a plethore of white lithium grease in there ASAP. Next oil change is in a week or two -- I'll do it at that time.
), I think I'm going to get a plethore of white lithium grease in there ASAP. Next oil change is in a week or two -- I'll do it at that time.
03-09-2007, 07:44 AM
#26
Three Wheelin'
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Philadelphia Burbs
Age: 41
Posts: 1,727
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I just posted this in the other thread on the Ct way bar in addition to Moda's suggestion, i think as long as you keep the bushings properly lubricated, you shouldn't have too much of an issues. If the bushings stay lubed, the bar will be allowed to slide easier and create the motion its suppose to without adding a lot of additional stress to the mounts.
Eric - Lube the hell out of it and you should be fine
Hope things are going well for you too....haven't talked to ya in awhile!!
Eric - Lube the hell out of it and you should be fine
Hope things are going well for you too....haven't talked to ya in awhile!!
03-09-2007, 08:50 PM
#27
C'mon, man! Row yer own.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: WDMIA
Age: 57
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm no engineer, but I don't believe it's friction with the poly bushings that is tearing the steel mounts. I think it's the forces placed on those points by the very much stiffer bar. I don't know, I like the effect of the Comptech bar a lot, but I know I'll totally kick myself if I crawl under there in a year or two (or three or four) and a mount is broken.
I'm torn (no pun intended)!
I'm torn (no pun intended)!
03-10-2007, 01:04 AM
#28
Team Owner
^^ I'm with Pete, and I am an engineer, just the wrong kind to know a lot about this. One thing I do know is that my rear suspension is creaking whenever I go over speedbumps (long suspension travel). It also started when the weather got cold, around December. I originally thought that one of my rear shock/struts went bad but now I'm thinking that it could very well be the swaybar vs. bushing contact.
03-10-2007, 01:16 AM
#29
TF500
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sydney Australia
Age: 64
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by peter_bigblock
I'm no engineer, but I don't believe it's friction with the poly bushings that is tearing the steel mounts. I think it's the forces placed on those points by the very much stiffer bar. I don't know, I like the effect of the Comptech bar a lot, but I know I'll totally kick myself if I crawl under there in a year or two (or three or four) and a mount is broken.
I'm torn (no pun intended)!
I'm torn (no pun intended)!
03-10-2007, 07:06 AM
#30
Someone stole "My Garage"
Originally Posted by jlukja
^^ I'm with Pete, and I am an engineer, just the wrong kind to know a lot about this. One thing I do know is that my rear suspension is creaking whenever I go over speedbumps (long suspension travel). It also started when the weather got cold, around December. I originally thought that one of my rear shock/struts went bad but now I'm thinking that it could very well be the swaybar vs. bushing contact.
As for going back to stock, I don't think I ever will w/ this. The mod is too fun and too noticeable to go back, and the likelihood of the mount(s) breaking is VERY slim. People have been running these bars for how long now? And just recently we've only heard of 2 incidents about it happening. That's very, very slim chances. I'll take those odds.
03-10-2007, 09:45 AM
#33
Burning Brakes
anyone with the other bars getting problems? Im contemplating getting a comptech rsb, but if theres no difference i'd just get a prog bar if they don't have any problems yet.
03-10-2007, 09:48 AM
#34
Bye TSX, hello domestic?
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NOVA
Age: 42
Posts: 8,552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by acn684
anyone with the other bars getting problems? Im contemplating getting a comptech rsb, but if theres no difference i'd just get a prog bar if they don't have any problems yet.
03-10-2007, 08:12 PM
#35
Team Owner
Originally Posted by curls
That's exactly what I'm experiencing, and all it requires is lubrication.
As for going back to stock, I don't think I ever will w/ this. The mod is too fun and too noticeable to go back, and the likelihood of the mount(s) breaking is VERY slim. People have been running these bars for how long now? And just recently we've only heard of 2 incidents about it happening. That's very, very slim chances. I'll take those odds.
As for going back to stock, I don't think I ever will w/ this. The mod is too fun and too noticeable to go back, and the likelihood of the mount(s) breaking is VERY slim. People have been running these bars for how long now? And just recently we've only heard of 2 incidents about it happening. That's very, very slim chances. I'll take those odds.
03-11-2007, 12:33 AM
#36
TF500
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sydney Australia
Age: 64
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think a lot to do with this problem is the thickness(22mm) of the bar.If you are concerned that this may happen to you i suggest you go with an 18mm RSB(which is what i have). 
03-12-2007, 03:46 AM
#38
TF500
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sydney Australia
Age: 64
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by acn684
hows the feel on a 18 mm?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rp_guy
Member Cars for Sale
9
07-16-2017 07:33 AM
