Imperfect color match?
Imperfect color match?
Those with Satin Silver color, do you notice a color difference between the passenger-side front and rear doors?
I noticed a slight difference on my car and I'm not sure if it is just me or an actual defect in the paint. The thing is, I see it in various lighting conditions (best seen in the evening). The front door matches with the rest of the body, but the rear door seems to be darker. It's driving me nuts!
If you look at my pic on the home page of acura-tsx.com you can see what I mean.
I'm going to see if I can capture more images on my digital camera.
I noticed a slight difference on my car and I'm not sure if it is just me or an actual defect in the paint. The thing is, I see it in various lighting conditions (best seen in the evening). The front door matches with the rest of the body, but the rear door seems to be darker. It's driving me nuts!
If you look at my pic on the home page of acura-tsx.com you can see what I mean.
I'm going to see if I can capture more images on my digital camera.
I've noticed that only on the bumpers vs. the body. I think it's a norm, as I looked at the others during our meet last month...it sorta sucks, but I'm willing to live with.
I thought SSM would be the color that would have been less obvious.
I thought SSM would be the color that would have been less obvious.
Its odd that you mention the color variance b/c my wife's Silver Civic has the same issue. Fact is, I think the pieces are sprayed in different places, so the color may be off by that fact.
when I was at the dealer the other night, everyone was saying how this seems to be the case with MANY Silver Acura cars .. it's apparently, a common thing !!!
However, I never really noticed it on my Silver CL ...
guess I WON'T be getting the Satin Silver TSX !!!
However, I never really noticed it on my Silver CL ...
guess I WON'T be getting the Satin Silver TSX !!!
I was browsing through some of the other satin silver pics on the other forum and lo and behold, I see the same thing on their cars as I do with mine --- the rear passenger door appears to be a slight shade darker.
Is this a factory defect and can something actually be done about it??
Is this a factory defect and can something actually be done about it??
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Oh wow that is really noticeable. Sorry about that guys. My TSX is currently getting the entire front of the car repainted and i am worried about that happening to me
Hey RogerPodacter , why are you having your tsx painted?
Go through Acura, free loaner, make sure you tell them you don't want any imperfection on it. And if your dealer doesn't have a shop, they go through Acura certified shops.
Go through Acura, free loaner, make sure you tell them you don't want any imperfection on it. And if your dealer doesn't have a shop, they go through Acura certified shops.
Originally posted by ssm_tsx
You can see how the doors don't match in this pic.
You can see how the doors don't match in this pic.
This has to be a factory defect since it seems to be problem on all the TSX. Weird thing is, it is only on the passenger side!
Any idea how to address this problem with Acura? I have a feeling complaining to dealer won't do anything.
Originally posted by rzee
I think your door was damaged on its way there, they had to repaint it and now you have mismatched doors.
I think your door was damaged on its way there, they had to repaint it and now you have mismatched doors.
If it was, they did a damn good job covering it up. Every silver car I've owned has been like this, so I think it's something with the color.
Re: Imperfect color match?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fooman
[B]Those with Satin Silver color, do you notice a color difference between the passenger-side front and rear doors?
SSM-TSX I just went through all my pictures (several hundred in all sorts of lighting conditions and I just don't see that problem with it. The colour difference really looks quite obvious in your photo...I would say it sucks!.... and if it looks like that in most lighting conditions I would say you car has been repainted (any overspray under the door or over the moulding?)
[B]Those with Satin Silver color, do you notice a color difference between the passenger-side front and rear doors?
SSM-TSX I just went through all my pictures (several hundred in all sorts of lighting conditions and I just don't see that problem with it. The colour difference really looks quite obvious in your photo...I would say it sucks!.... and if it looks like that in most lighting conditions I would say you car has been repainted (any overspray under the door or over the moulding?)
I havent noticed this either, but I do see it in the picture you linked. Maybe that door is at a slightly different angle which makes it look diff in certain pictures. I find it hard to beleive that one door from the car is somehow painted differently. In anycase..its subtle enough that noone would ever notice. (except you
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Well today I decided to make a quick stop by the local Acura dealer here and brought up my complaint to the service rep. He admitted that the colors didn't match up and would research to see if Acura had any bulletins regarding this matter. He also admitted that Honda/Acura has had paint flaws on their cars before such as paint not matching, which adds further justification to my concerns regarding my TSX.
He would also talk to the Acura rep that visits the dealership on Mondays. Since TSX are still new, I doubt that there are any complaints. But here's hoping for the best.
In the meantime, I've already drafted a formal letter which I will be sending to American Honda regarding this matter. I've also contacted the Acura Client services to document my complaint. Hopefully, other Satin Silver TSX owners will notice the same thing on their car and file a complaint as well.
For those who don't have this problem, I envy you.
He would also talk to the Acura rep that visits the dealership on Mondays. Since TSX are still new, I doubt that there are any complaints. But here's hoping for the best.
In the meantime, I've already drafted a formal letter which I will be sending to American Honda regarding this matter. I've also contacted the Acura Client services to document my complaint. Hopefully, other Satin Silver TSX owners will notice the same thing on their car and file a complaint as well.
For those who don't have this problem, I envy you.
by the way, i took some recent pics to show you. Notice how the color quickly darkens between the front and rear passenger door. If it was a true shadow effect, there would be a gradual progression and not a quick cut off point as seen with the pics. Again, this is just STRICTLY for the passenger side doors and NOT the driver's side. I checked and they are perfectly fine. See for yourself and compare.

It should look more like this...

It should look more like this...
I'm thinking about bringing this up with Acura, too. But, I would rather live with the mismatched paint then have to deal with a repainted door. It was the same thing with my rear defroster. I would rather it not work correctly than have to go through all the fuss (which could lead to more problems) in getting it fixed.
Please let me know which steps Acura takes.
Please let me know which steps Acura takes.
Originally posted by ssm_tsx
I'm thinking about bringing this up with Acura, too. But, I would rather live with the mismatched paint then have to deal with a repainted door. It was the same thing with my rear defroster. I would rather it not work correctly than have to go through all the fuss (which could lead to more problems) in getting it fixed.
Please let me know which steps Acura takes.
I'm thinking about bringing this up with Acura, too. But, I would rather live with the mismatched paint then have to deal with a repainted door. It was the same thing with my rear defroster. I would rather it not work correctly than have to go through all the fuss (which could lead to more problems) in getting it fixed.
Please let me know which steps Acura takes.
I didn't know they share the same code. I thought each color is unique for the type of model of car (since they all have different names) ?
By the way, the touch-up paint doesn't match up either. It is also darker. Surprise! Luckily, I have only used it in one spot.
By the way, the touch-up paint doesn't match up either. It is also darker. Surprise! Luckily, I have only used it in one spot.
Oh yeah, here is another pic as an example to all -- (pic found on the other site). Another SSM owner with the problem.
http://www.clubtsx.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=166
http://www.clubtsx.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=166
I haven't really looked at mine but I think in your pic, if it were truly missmatched, why would the portion above the body's line not be missmatched as well? I do see the lower part below the line as being missmatched but not the upper. Is it just me? I'll have to inspect my SSM closely
This is very interesting as I have a customer that works for a robotics firm. It's common knowledge that Honda motorcycles built in Marysville, Ohio have been painted by humans since they opened the plant. The same with the cars as I understand. I realize the TSX is made in Japan, but he told me they've been installing paint robots at both the car and motorcycle plant. He scooped me on a radical new motorcycle Honda had introduced by saying his robots had painted it exclusively. To make a long story short...He saw my TSX brochure laying on my desk and said our robots are painting that car. I explained that's not possible as this car is made in Japan, which made me think 04 TL. I showed him a pic of the concept TL and he said that's the car were painting now. He told me the Honda big wigs are fanatical on perfection in the paint department. I'm wondering if there installing the same robots in Japan, he said there were some problems early but there getting better every car and bike. I own a SSM TSX and I just got done washing and Zymol detail waxing the thing. I'll give it the once over two or three times tomorrow when it's light out.
Originally posted by TWong1200
I haven't really looked at mine but I think in your pic, if it were truly missmatched, why would the portion above the body's line not be missmatched as well? I do see the lower part below the line as being missmatched but not the upper. Is it just me? I'll have to inspect my SSM closely
I haven't really looked at mine but I think in your pic, if it were truly missmatched, why would the portion above the body's line not be missmatched as well? I do see the lower part below the line as being missmatched but not the upper. Is it just me? I'll have to inspect my SSM closely
I looked mine over real good today and my paints perfect. I wash and waxed yesterday and it's blingin. I'm startin to think your door got dinged in transit and was repainted. Of course my car was from like the second wave of TSX's, so if there was a paint problem it could have been addressed.
My car looked like a match. The bumper is notably a different shade
which is typical on the plastics but elsewhere looked good.
Factory repaint with some??
I just picked mine up today after the tranny transplant. They say that this one is a beast for that operation.
Also had to replace wound steering cable that powers all steering wheel options (broke it) and throttle body line (broke it).
They had to redo alignment but it still has a left pull bias so I'm going back Tuesday to get that corrected.
Is this first year fun or what??
P.S. bill total was $3462.15 to warranty.
which is typical on the plastics but elsewhere looked good.
Factory repaint with some??
I just picked mine up today after the tranny transplant. They say that this one is a beast for that operation.
Also had to replace wound steering cable that powers all steering wheel options (broke it) and throttle body line (broke it).
They had to redo alignment but it still has a left pull bias so I'm going back Tuesday to get that corrected.
Is this first year fun or what??

P.S. bill total was $3462.15 to warranty.
Just ordered my SSM - take delivery on Monday. 
I voiced a concern over this silver paint problem, and the dealer looked at me like I was crazy. He said they are totally built, painted, etc in Japan, and couldn't believe they would ever pass inspection like that. I got to see my car and it looked fine. In fact all SSM on the lot looked fine too.
Hate to say it, but it may be a US regional thing. Is it possible that a 'batch' of SSMs got one MSM door? Seems weird that it's always the same door (like the rear-passenger-door-robot was acting up that day). Since we can only get the SSM in Canada, maybe that's why we don't experience that prob???
Anyway, best of luck with getting it sorted out.

I voiced a concern over this silver paint problem, and the dealer looked at me like I was crazy. He said they are totally built, painted, etc in Japan, and couldn't believe they would ever pass inspection like that. I got to see my car and it looked fine. In fact all SSM on the lot looked fine too.
Hate to say it, but it may be a US regional thing. Is it possible that a 'batch' of SSMs got one MSM door? Seems weird that it's always the same door (like the rear-passenger-door-robot was acting up that day). Since we can only get the SSM in Canada, maybe that's why we don't experience that prob???

Anyway, best of luck with getting it sorted out.
I haven't noticed this on mine either, but I'll certainly be looking at it tomorrow in various light. (I'd hope if the difference was that obvious [as in that pic] I would have seen it by now.)
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I find that it is mostly obvious in the lower light conditions like a couple of hours before the sun sets. I think this is because there is less light for the door to reflect so the darker tinted silver shows up more. When the sun is too bright, the light reflection hides the imperfection.
It is also most visible when looking at an angle, about 30-45 degrees from the front of the car. I say this because when I showed it to the dealer, I myself couldn't see the difference in color until I moved the car to a better position.
Again, it is sometimes difficult to see as I obviously missed it during my new car inspection before I picked up the keys. And I was very meticulous during my inspection of the car.
For those who do not have this problem on their SSM, would you mind taking a pic of the car from this angle?
I wonder if those that do have the problem share similar factory production dates.
It is also most visible when looking at an angle, about 30-45 degrees from the front of the car. I say this because when I showed it to the dealer, I myself couldn't see the difference in color until I moved the car to a better position.
Again, it is sometimes difficult to see as I obviously missed it during my new car inspection before I picked up the keys. And I was very meticulous during my inspection of the car.
For those who do not have this problem on their SSM, would you mind taking a pic of the car from this angle?
I wonder if those that do have the problem share similar factory production dates.
I was browsing through some more pics of other SSMs and believe it or not, I noticed that the SSM pics taken by a professional photgrapher also has the problem. Or is it just me?
Take a look for yourself, pics 2, 3, and 9 are the most obvious ones.
http://imageevent.com/provench/acuratsx/tsxexterior/
Take a look for yourself, pics 2, 3, and 9 are the most obvious ones.
http://imageevent.com/provench/acuratsx/tsxexterior/
I've looked at mine for two days now in various light and I think it looks ok. I'll see if I can get a few pics up just incase my eyes are being lazy...
((edit: would be interesting to see if this is only apparent in a certain vin range))
((edit: would be interesting to see if this is only apparent in a certain vin range))
It may just be the angle of the door relative to the rear quarter panel thats causing it to look darker. In those professional pictures the doors look darker because of shadow/reflection .Look closely you will see it.
I have an SSM-TSX. I have read through this thread and now have been comparing and parking in different locations in sun, night, dawn and dusk. I am happy to report that I got lucky and my car is the same silver all the way around.
i need someone else to look at the 360 virtual tour on the Acura website. This car seems to have the same problem only on the passenger side and not the drivers. Have I been reading too many posts about this paint thing or is it really that obvious?
I have a SSM. I'm someone who would notice that kind of thing, but I don't see it on my car.
However, I do see a slight difference at certain angles when I compare the corner of the rear bumper with the rest of the car. I figured it's just the reflection of the light on the paint.
That's might odd that your two doors show different shades. My gut reaction or hunch--given that both panels should be on the same plane and reflect light similarly--is that someone touched up some vehicle damage after it left the factory.
However, I do see a slight difference at certain angles when I compare the corner of the rear bumper with the rest of the car. I figured it's just the reflection of the light on the paint.
That's might odd that your two doors show different shades. My gut reaction or hunch--given that both panels should be on the same plane and reflect light similarly--is that someone touched up some vehicle damage after it left the factory.

