HUGE water leak problem :(
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Hey guys,
I was getting my sound system install today and the installers found a pretty serious problem. There's a huge puddle of water in the trunk of the car and the bottom of the back seat (the exposed foam near the mats if you dig your finger under the seats) are drenched. I am still under warranty but my main concern is, can this be due to my rims / Tein Basics install? I'm worried that they are going to try to pin this on the custom suspension somehow. Oh, and it is a 2006 Acura TSX with around 10k miles on it. Pics: Bottom of the tire well lid: Attachment 85298 Tire well full of water: Attachment 85299 Right side of car, all the way in the indentation on the side on the floor (looks darker than the rest) is wet: Attachment 85300 Same on the left side: Attachment 85301 Thanks for the help! |
I don't see how installing wheels or the suspension could have resulted in flooding in the trunk.
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how does the weatherstripping under the back window look? I can't figure out how water got in there.
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I think you can have AC leak, contact the deal for this. My back seats was flooded, they fix it no questions asked and i have custom suspension .
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What does the liquid look and smell like? Its not water no?
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you may want to double-check your sunroof drains.
these pics were taken by Rocket_man: https://img181.imageshack.us/img181/227/img1932hu9.jpg https://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6031/img1936lc0.jpg https://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8884/img1943ge0.jpg |
Originally Posted by afici0nad0
you may want to double-check your sunroof drains.
these pics were taken by Rocket_man: The drains could also have clogged up if you get debris in them. This would likely only happen if you have the roof open a lot and park under a tree for example. But it could get blocked and back up and have no where to go. Did you haul a water cooler somewhere and it might have leaked? If you can't get water down the drain you may want to peel back the liners in the trunk and take a peek. It is not hard. There are some pics in my Cargo Net install if you can find it that show where the clips are. Probably long buried somewhere now but you can search for it. |
How many people have had this happen to them?
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Originally Posted by Rocket_man
If you can't get water down the drain you may want to peel back the liners in the trunk and take a peek. It is not hard. There are some pics in my Cargo Net install if you can find it that show where the clips are. Probably long buried somewhere now but you can search for it.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...+install+trunk |
I really appreciate the responses guys,
I'll peel back the trim, get some pics, and let you know what goes down. I would assume that it's those drains that run along the side of the car, one, or both, is causing the problem. I'm going to try to run by the dealership also, hopefully this is a quick fix. |
Originally Posted by xenonhid
What does the liquid look and smell like? Its not water no?
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Originally Posted by afici0nad0
you may want to double-check your sunroof drains.
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UPDATE:
I went out (it's 12 AM lol) and tried pouring a little bit of water down the ledge of the sunroof. The water DOES come down out from the rear of the car BUT when I looked inside the trunk I did see water trickling in. What really bothers me is that it's coming from both sides. The path that the water took is below (red arrows): Attachment 85302 I'm gonna run this over the the dealership. My main concern now is how much water is in the seats and whether or not it's going to make my car smell like mildew. Thanks again for all of your help! |
I just noticed that the first post is made from a different account, I made the first one from my friend's computer, I apologize for the confusion.
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Originally Posted by Ishakir
UPDATE:
I went out (it's 12 AM lol) and tried pouring a little bit of water down the ledge of the sunroof. The water DOES come down out from the rear of the car BUT when I looked inside the trunk I did see water trickling in. What really bothers me is that it's coming from both sides. The path that the water took is below (red arrows): http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...nwaterpath.jpg I'm gonna run this over the the dealership. My main concern now is how much water is in the seats and whether or not it's going to make my car smell like mildew. Thanks again for all of your help! I'd also keep a thing of arm-n-hammer baking soda in the trunk for a week or two --> they sell the "fridge" ones that are able to be opened w/o spilling the baking soda all over the place. I think they're under a buck. That should help any potential odours from taking over the trunk. |
Originally Posted by drunkenbuda
I think you can have AC leak, contact the deal for this. My back seats was flooded, they fix it no questions asked and i have custom suspension .
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Originally Posted by Ishakir
UPDATE:
I went out (it's 12 AM lol) and tried pouring a little bit of water down the ledge of the sunroof. The water DOES come down out from the rear of the car BUT when I looked inside the trunk I did see water trickling in. What really bothers me is that it's coming from both sides. The path that the water took is below (red arrows): http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...nwaterpath.jpg I'm gonna run this over the the dealership. My main concern now is how much water is in the seats and whether or not it's going to make my car smell like mildew. Thanks again for all of your help! not to belittle your problem, but i see a smiley face in that picture. haha. hope you get it fixed. |
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my thoughts exactly. it's cool, Ishakir has identified the source. |
Originally Posted by xjohnkdoex
not to belittle your problem, but i see a smiley face in that picture. haha. hope you get it fixed.
I dropped it off at the stealership, I'll let you guys know what becomes of it. |
OK guys,
I took the car in and I haven't had the best experience so far. I dropped it of Wednesday and they still do not know for sure where the leak is. They are claiming it is from the bumper area some place and it's apparently taking them 3+ hours to remove the bumper because "it has been removed before". I bought the car with 3500 miles on it certified from Acura. I haven't been in any wrecks or anything so I don't understand when the bumper would have been removed. The Carfax on the car shows no records so I am at a loss right now. Is it even possible to tell if the bumper has been removed before? Even if it has, would it really take a trained professional 3+ hours to attempt to remove it? Lastly, where the hell is the leak coming from? I swear to God I saw water come into the trunk when I poured water into the sunroof ledge but they are telling me that it is definitely not that. Ugh... |
:confused: I fail to see how removing the bumper (front? rear?) will give them any insight into why the water is where you drew the red arrows.
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:agree:
could it be that the stealership is pulling another fast one? :dunno: |
can you demonstrate to the technicians the "pouring water onto the sunroof ledges" method?
maybe they'll see what's up at that point. |
my guess?
the sunroof drain hoses has somehow come loose from the wheel well drain attachments. did you get a chance to see your trunk without the carpet lining? |
OK guys, after some bitching, they suddenly got the bumper off...
I really hate to bitch at people but this is ridiculous. They apparently took off the bumpers, found some missing seals and replaced them. How the heck could these seals have been compromised?? They have some sort of mat on order for me for which I will have to take the car back. I will retry the sunroof drain test and see what I come up with. I, too, am doubtful on the success of the said fix... I'll let you know what goes down... Thanks again for the replies!! |
Originally Posted by afici0nad0
my guess?
the sunroof drain hoses has somehow come loose from the wheel well drain attachments. did you get a chance to see your trunk without the carpet lining? I'm not very happy with my first Acura service experience, I really hope this is a one time thing... |
Originally Posted by wish2k
Hey guys,
I was getting my sound system install today and the installers found a pretty serious problem. There's a huge puddle of water in the trunk of the car and the bottom of the back seat (the exposed foam near the mats if you dig your finger under the seats) are drenched. I am still under warranty but my main concern is, can this be due to my rims / Tein Basics install? I'm worried that they are going to try to pin this on the custom suspension somehow. Oh, and it is a 2006 Acura TSX with around 10k miles on it. Pics: Bottom of the tire well lid: http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...ir/toolbin.jpg Tire well full of water: http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...r/tirewell.jpg Right side of car, all the way in the indentation on the side on the floor (looks darker than the rest) is wet: http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...tsideofcar.jpg Same on the left side: http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...tsideofcar.jpg Thanks for the help! |
Let me know what happens...
The seals that they replaced on my car seems to have fixed the problem. |
Was there ever a resolution to this?
I ask because I noticed something this morning in my 04 TSX. I went to get something that fell in my rear passenger footwell, and the entire carpet back there (and the carpet underneath it) were soaked clean through. No standing water, but they might as well have been sitting underwater, that's how wet things were. I live in CT, and Sunday through yesterday, more or less, we experienced a huge nor'easter, with tons of rain. How could this water have gotten into my car? I'm thoroughly befuddled here. There's no water anywhere else - not the trunk, not the seats - just the rear passenger footwell. Any ideas?? |
rear passenger footwell? iirc, that might be associated with an a/c leak.
others should chime in though, as i believe some had this problem. |
the dealership is gonna give you so much garbage about yoru mods.. if worst comes to worst.. switch it back to stock and send it back
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I actually spoke with my dealership's service today, the head of the department told me that is most likely a clogged sunroof drain pipe. I'm going to test that theory this weekend.
Honestly, my dealership has been very cool about mods thus far, so that's not what I'm worried about. I just hate being without my car and dealing with going to/from the dealership, so whatever I can fix myself, I do, ya know? If I can't find a blocked sunroof drain, it's probably an A/C leak, which I definitely will have the dealership take care of. Thanks for the replies. |
Originally Posted by Audioserf
Was there ever a resolution to this?
I ask because I noticed something this morning in my 04 TSX. I went to get something that fell in my rear passenger footwell, and the entire carpet back there (and the carpet underneath it) were soaked clean through. No standing water, but they might as well have been sitting underwater, that's how wet things were. I live in CT, and Sunday through yesterday, more or less, we experienced a huge nor'easter, with tons of rain. How could this water have gotten into my car? I'm thoroughly befuddled here. There's no water anywhere else - not the trunk, not the seats - just the rear passenger footwell. Any ideas?? |
Yeah - I saw your posts, and checked my spare tire/trunk, and there's no water anywhere in there. Just the footwell (and only one footwell, at that, not both).
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I sent mine in yesterday and in the afternoon after like 6 hrs since they had my car they called me and said they still couldnt find where the leak is coming from
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have they fix the problem yet?
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I got back my car after 4 days and it had to do with the seams from the bumper the part where the bumper touches the metal of the car. The dealership isnt a 100% sure if its solved yet and i'm not sure either because the rear glass still fogs up for some reason while other cars on my block doesnt and it only started to fog because of the leak.
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Originally Posted by Big Pimpin
I got back my car after 4 days and it had to do with the seams from the bumper the part where the bumper touches the metal of the car. The dealership isnt a 100% sure if its solved yet and i'm not sure either because the rear glass still fogs up for some reason while other cars on my block doesnt and it only started to fog because of the leak.
I bought my car certified pre-owned with 3500 miles on it with a clear CarFax and the dealership was saying that the car may have been in an accident before. Have you ever been rear-ended before? They were saying that there's basically no other way that this problem could have occurred. |
not really rear ended more like a hit and run in the parking lot like on the side of the bumper i think mabe it wrecked the seams when they removed it to repaint
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:annoyed:
I just got back from an extended trip. My TSX was parked in the driveway while I was away and there was a rain storm a few days ago. Guess what? the rear passenger footwells are soaked. Its definitely NOT the A/C. Its got to be the sun/moon roof drains that are clogged. :whyme: |
Da-yam. That's not supposed to happen..." :dunno:
Do we know where the entry points for those hoses are? Someone mentioned "open your moonroof and pour some water down your moonroof drains," but I wouldnt' try that with anyone's car w/o more info. |
^^ When I open the sunroof I can see 4 holes, one in each corner of the sunroof hole. I guess these could clog but then wouldn't the water just drip down the headliner? :dunno: Everything was dry except for the footwells.
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^^Could be the clog was further down the tube(s)...like the clog was before reaching the bottom of the trunk area, thus leaking into the trunk.
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You're probably right. I need a tiny roto-rooter machine. :chuckle:
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Can I use an air gun to plug to the end of the hose and blow everything out?
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^^ I would worry that, if it is clogged, the pressure could do more damage than good.
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I would be worried you'd pop some connector off somewhere in the bowels of the car. Then again, the alternative to clearing out any plug would tearing things apart anyway so I'd probably take my chances.
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it is probably some leaves and dirt mixed with water/grease to become some glue that stuck inside the tube, is it?
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This leak problem seem universal. We have this too and it is due to the rubber seals being removed and forgotton to put back. Check around the doors (front has a seal) and don't remove them as water comes into the sides and under the front carpets!
The rear is similar around with lost seals wiil see leaks coming in. Thus, whenever your car goes in for some repairs, u have to watch their put back what they removed... |
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