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80290-SEC-A01 FILTER ASSY., AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 55.50
80310-SEA-G01 HOSE ASSY., AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 147.78
80362-SEA-000 STAY, AIR CONDITIONER PIPE 2008 TSX 4.86
80363-SDC-000 CLAMP B, AIR CONDITIONER PIPE 2008 TSX 3.50
80440-SW5-A01 SWITCH, AIR CONDITIONING (DUAL) 2008 TSX 40.30
80560-SEA-G01 THERMISTOR, AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 12.60
80650-SEA-G10 SUB-HARNESS, AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 31.62
these are the parts for the A/C. How did their cost come to $1000
Dealers sure know how to stick it to you
80310-SEA-G01 HOSE ASSY., AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 147.78
80362-SEA-000 STAY, AIR CONDITIONER PIPE 2008 TSX 4.86
80363-SDC-000 CLAMP B, AIR CONDITIONER PIPE 2008 TSX 3.50
80440-SW5-A01 SWITCH, AIR CONDITIONING (DUAL) 2008 TSX 40.30
80560-SEA-G01 THERMISTOR, AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 12.60
80650-SEA-G10 SUB-HARNESS, AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 31.62
these are the parts for the A/C. How did their cost come to $1000
Dealers sure know how to stick it to you
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Originally Posted by slickrab
So here's an update! 
I had initially taken my car into Paragon for A/C problems and as I was told the first time it's malfunctioning was caused by a pierced condenser. I took of the bumper and saw the damage myself and I had that confirmed by a family friend mechanic. As you all know physical damage is not covered by warranty.
I last stated that I was going to the dealer to speak with the manager on what I experienced. Well I did just that. Met with the Service Manager who at the time was only his third day at the stealership. The meeting between us was later accompanied by the service rep who was in charge of my case. I explained my anger and frustration and in detail mentioned all the things that no one should experience servicing any vehicle, not even a donkey carriage. The manager admitted that the stealership is a mess and "has so many things wrong with it" hence the resignation of the ex-service manager and his hiring. He and I focussed on the main problem which was the A/C not working. He had the service rep drive it into the garage, take out a TL off a lift in the middle of it being serviced and replace mine to show me the damaged condenser at eye level. We both confirmed that that was the problem and he stated that if they return the condenser to ACURA to be covered under warranty it will simply be rejected. He stated that he will take care of me to make up for what I experienced. They drove my car back around and I met with the service rep to talk about pricing. The repair estimate was $1186. They said for what I've experienced, they will do the repair at $800 flat. I was still not satisfied. Told him I would think about it and get back to him. I left the dealer and after a couple hours I received a call back from the Regional Case Manager at ACURA Client Services. Explained everything that happened but he said he can have the dealer compensate for gas that was wasted (which i thought was nonsense) but he couldn't compensate by having the problem repaired under warranty, which I understood. At that time I decided that I would make a service appointment at Island Acura who were the only ones willing to give a loaner car. My appointment was scheduled for tomorrow.
So here is the good news. Today while at work I recieved a call from my service rep at Paragon. He said "we just got off the phone with the ACURA client services who you spoke with concerning your case and we understood that you experienced bad service as you also stressed with my manager and I just wanted to inform you that for that, we will honor the full repair costs". I guess that was the last thing that I thought would ever happen as the client service manager was so firm about my a/c damage not being covered under warranty. My service rep told me that he has ordered the parts and to give him a call Monday to check if they have come in or not so that he doesn't have to supply a loaner, waste any more of my time at the dealer, and I think so that they have more lot space.
So what have I learned? Patience, persistence, and a positive composure prevails and can get take you a long way and to me that's saving a 1000 bux on something neither the dealer nor I had control over.
For all those who took part of this thread thank you. All those with unnecessary and derogatory remarks, take in some PPPC (patience, persistance, positive composure.)
IT WORKS!
I had initially taken my car into Paragon for A/C problems and as I was told the first time it's malfunctioning was caused by a pierced condenser. I took of the bumper and saw the damage myself and I had that confirmed by a family friend mechanic. As you all know physical damage is not covered by warranty.
I last stated that I was going to the dealer to speak with the manager on what I experienced. Well I did just that. Met with the Service Manager who at the time was only his third day at the stealership. The meeting between us was later accompanied by the service rep who was in charge of my case. I explained my anger and frustration and in detail mentioned all the things that no one should experience servicing any vehicle, not even a donkey carriage. The manager admitted that the stealership is a mess and "has so many things wrong with it" hence the resignation of the ex-service manager and his hiring. He and I focussed on the main problem which was the A/C not working. He had the service rep drive it into the garage, take out a TL off a lift in the middle of it being serviced and replace mine to show me the damaged condenser at eye level. We both confirmed that that was the problem and he stated that if they return the condenser to ACURA to be covered under warranty it will simply be rejected. He stated that he will take care of me to make up for what I experienced. They drove my car back around and I met with the service rep to talk about pricing. The repair estimate was $1186. They said for what I've experienced, they will do the repair at $800 flat. I was still not satisfied. Told him I would think about it and get back to him. I left the dealer and after a couple hours I received a call back from the Regional Case Manager at ACURA Client Services. Explained everything that happened but he said he can have the dealer compensate for gas that was wasted (which i thought was nonsense) but he couldn't compensate by having the problem repaired under warranty, which I understood. At that time I decided that I would make a service appointment at Island Acura who were the only ones willing to give a loaner car. My appointment was scheduled for tomorrow.
So here is the good news. Today while at work I recieved a call from my service rep at Paragon. He said "we just got off the phone with the ACURA client services who you spoke with concerning your case and we understood that you experienced bad service as you also stressed with my manager and I just wanted to inform you that for that, we will honor the full repair costs". I guess that was the last thing that I thought would ever happen as the client service manager was so firm about my a/c damage not being covered under warranty. My service rep told me that he has ordered the parts and to give him a call Monday to check if they have come in or not so that he doesn't have to supply a loaner, waste any more of my time at the dealer, and I think so that they have more lot space.
So what have I learned? Patience, persistence, and a positive composure prevails and can get take you a long way and to me that's saving a 1000 bux on something neither the dealer nor I had control over.
For all those who took part of this thread thank you. All those with unnecessary and derogatory remarks, take in some PPPC (patience, persistance, positive composure.)
IT WORKS!That now makes YOU the bad guy and in the wrong here.
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Originally Posted by RkFast
Not for nothing, but you demanded they pay to fix something YOU broke and that you knew you broke?
That now makes YOU the bad guy and in the wrong here.
That now makes YOU the bad guy and in the wrong here.
It's not that he was trying to find some loophole to get the stealership to pay for his broken A/C in the first place. He simply went in to have it serviced, most likely knowing he would have to pay for something, and while paying sucks, you have to be content with that.
He was seeking consolation for EXTREMELY poor service because
1) they didn't even do anything to his car when he first brought it in...he came back just for them to show him a rock...WOW. That's profound.
2) Somebody apparently drove his car which I find completely unacceptable
3) Techs left their own personal trash....and not just any trash...food trash. Some may think 'Big deal', or 'Big difference', but I am very anal about my car, so trash in the first place makes me mad...but I can stand food in my car.
4) He sat around for an hour and a half later when he came back just to be treated poorly AGAIN.
In the event of something like this, I would've done the exact same thing he did. Complain to Acura services, or corporate, or whoever I could. Even if I had to take my business to another dealership and pay full price, that's fine....but I'd be looking for at least some sort of return for the horrible service I received.
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Originally Posted by TS_eXpeed
It's not that he was trying to find some loophole to get the stealership to pay for his broken A/C in the first place. He simply went in to have it serviced, most likely knowing he would have to pay for something, and while paying sucks, you have to be content with that.
He was seeking consolation for EXTREMELY poor service because
1) they didn't even do anything to his car when he first brought it in...he came back just for them to show him a rock...WOW. That's profound.
He was seeking consolation for EXTREMELY poor service because
1) they didn't even do anything to his car when he first brought it in...he came back just for them to show him a rock...WOW. That's profound.
2) Somebody apparently drove his car which I find completely unacceptable
3) Techs left their own personal trash....and not just any trash...food trash. Some may think 'Big deal', or 'Big difference', but I am very anal about my car, so trash in the first place makes me mad...but I can stand food in my car.
4) He sat around for an hour and a half later when he came back just to be treated poorly AGAIN.
In the event of something like this, I would've done the exact same thing he did. Complain to Acura services, or corporate, or whoever I could. Even if I had to take my business to another dealership and pay full price, that's fine....but I'd be looking for at least some sort of return for the horrible service I received.
If you were to try and claim you'd been made to suffer emotionally, I'd like to see you kicked in the face so I could spit on you and laugh at your emo ass curled up in the fetal position crying. Welcome to the world of adults where your feelings will occasionally be hurt. Grow up.
Slickrab, I'm glad this worked out so well for you. I think you recognize that you got lucky here and as long as you acknowledge and appreciate that fact, I think you have taken away a good lesson with out having to get burned to badly. You've also calmed down a good bit since the initial incident which is a hallmark of the exuberance of youth. You'll find as you get older that you're reactions to most situations become much less emotional and more based on reason. It's something that might not be so obvious to you now but all of us older guys look back and see clearly that we're all essentially morons when we're young.
On a side note, this whole thing is really making want to put some sort of mesh behind my grill to protect those expensive parts hanging out where the rocks are most likely to hit them.
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"If you were to try and claim you'd been made to suffer emotionally, I'd like to see you kicked in the face so I could spit on you and laugh at your emo ass curled up in the fetal position crying. Welcome to the world of adults where your feelings will occasionally be hurt. Grow up."
You are my new favorite poster. By far.
The concept that the dealership "owed" the OP and in order to be made whole, have his car fixed for free is patently absurd. So I smack up my TSX and becuase the guy I go to for a repair is a jerk, HE should then fix it for nothing in order to make me "feel better"? Come on. Absurd.
You are my new favorite poster. By far.
The concept that the dealership "owed" the OP and in order to be made whole, have his car fixed for free is patently absurd. So I smack up my TSX and becuase the guy I go to for a repair is a jerk, HE should then fix it for nothing in order to make me "feel better"? Come on. Absurd.
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Originally Posted by slickrab
The dealer brought that up as an offer, but what were my options from that point? Pay a $500 deductible and have the insurance pay $300. Risking the price of my premium increasing in the long run, especially because of my young age, is not worth $300 dollars. To me I've grown up without A/c in my bucket and my house so that to me is considered a luxury definitely not worth $1000+. Hopefully that answers your concerns.
You have to balance the risk versus the cost to repair when you decide on the deductible amount. A $500 deductible means you are willing to pay the first $500 on a claim. If you can't afford the risk, you should buy $100 deductible or full coverage.
And, deductible claims do not count as a chargeable collision, so your premiums do not increase.
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
Would you rather have the dealer just go ahead and do whatever they think or feel like doing without your prior consent? That's illegal. I don't let any one do anything to my car until I know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it.
You realize that you sign a piece of paper saying you're authorizing them to do that right? It's often necessary to diagnose the problem and confirm the fix worked.
on that. There are other things you can check beforehand anyways. Now if it was something with the transmission or drivetrain....that is more understandable. Still there are things you could check before hand with that too. Air conditioning??? No.
Yes, you're anal. Get over it.
Your attitude is extremely childish. I don't think there's any one here that would disagree with going elsewhere. But to demand compensation is out and out ridiculous. In what way have you been irrevocably injured? Have they diminished the value of the car? No. Have they caused you financial harm in any way? No. He dropped the car off with express intent that they investigate the problem. Any charges incurred (it doesn't sound like there were any) were willingly agreed upon before hand. You/he has no argument on that basis.
Bottom line is, it is absolutely disrespectful to
1- Have complete disregard for other peoples time when they have entrusted you to speedy business
2- Trash another's belongings
3- Half of the time act like it's no big deal
I guess I just have differing opinions than you, and I pray to God you never come into contact with my car.
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Originally Posted by TS_eXpeed
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Bottom line is, it is absolutely disrespectful to
1- Have complete disregard for other peoples time when they have entrusted you to speedy business
2- Trash another's belongings
3- Half of the time act like it's no big deal
I guess I just have differing opinions than you, and I pray to God you never come into contact with my car.
Bottom line is, it is absolutely disrespectful to
1- Have complete disregard for other peoples time when they have entrusted you to speedy business
2- Trash another's belongings
3- Half of the time act like it's no big deal
I guess I just have differing opinions than you, and I pray to God you never come into contact with my car.
Seriously man, it's called life. It's not always perfect. It's not a god damned commercial. You must cry yourself to sleep every night if you find these innocuous situations so unacceptable.
Or you could, I don't know, throw the can away. Hell if you want to be dick about it, just chuck out the window in their parking lot.
Fucking kids can't handle the slightest bit of hardship anymore. What's going to happen when you've got a real job and your boss decides to yell at you for something that's completely not your fault just because he's pissed and wants to yell at some one? I bet you'd try to sue him for emotional damages.
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
For real? Complete disregard? Some one left a soda can in the car, big fucking deal. Any point you were trying to make is rendered moot by extreme anal retentiveness. You better have a fuck ton of money if you want to traipse through life without ever having to encounter the massive inconvenience of an empty soda can being in your way. I'm willing to walk to 10 feet in front of you and make sure you never have to so much as look at it piece of trash in your path if you want to pay me a reasonable salary. I'd do it for, let's say $30k and benefits.
Seriously man, it's called life. It's not always perfect. It's not a god damned commercial. You must cry yourself to sleep every night if you find these innocuous situations so unacceptable.
Or you could, I don't know, throw the can away. Hell if you want to be dick about it, just chuck out the window in their parking lot.
Fucking kids can't handle the slightest bit of hardship anymore. What's going to happen when you've got a real job and your boss decides to yell at you for something that's completely not your fault just because he's pissed and wants to yell at some one? I bet you'd try to sue him for emotional damages.
Seriously man, it's called life. It's not always perfect. It's not a god damned commercial. You must cry yourself to sleep every night if you find these innocuous situations so unacceptable.
Or you could, I don't know, throw the can away. Hell if you want to be dick about it, just chuck out the window in their parking lot.
Fucking kids can't handle the slightest bit of hardship anymore. What's going to happen when you've got a real job and your boss decides to yell at you for something that's completely not your fault just because he's pissed and wants to yell at some one? I bet you'd try to sue him for emotional damages.
It's being respectful about others belongings....something this dealership obviously doesn't have. You call me childish, but you've stooped way to my level with your remarks. You apparently don't understand so I'm stopping here. This is going nowhere.
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What I'm saying is that if you consider some one leaving a soda can a grave affront to your personal property, you're in for a harsh life.
Shitty service, yes. Deserving anything more than an apology for it, hell no. That's why your childish.
Shitty service, yes. Deserving anything more than an apology for it, hell no. That's why your childish.
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Sorry, the perceived entitlement of America's youth just really pisses me off. Mostly because we're all going to be boned when none of them want to do any work but demand a 6 figure salary. I'm already seeing this mentality creeping into my industry.
No one is saying slickrab shouldn't have been pissed off. I'm just saying he needs to look at the situation in perspective, which he has done given some time to cool off. I commend him on that for sure.
No one is saying slickrab shouldn't have been pissed off. I'm just saying he needs to look at the situation in perspective, which he has done given some time to cool off. I commend him on that for sure.
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
For real? Complete disregard? Some one left a soda can in the car, big fucking deal. Any point you were trying to make is rendered moot by extreme anal retentiveness.
having said that, i don't think your view is correct either. to assert that "that's life suck it up and deal with it" doesn't fly in SERVICE-ORIENTED businesses. there is a certain level of expectation when you are dealing with service-oriented businesses. when you go into decent sit-down restaurant, there is a certain level of expectation of service. you expect a courteous knowledgeable waiter, decent tasting food, decent environment to enjoy the food. when those expectations are not met, that's when people have complaints. when you have a rude waiter, you don't just tell yourself "suck it up, its life". i think the same can be said about the soda can in the OP's car...
FWIW, i too absolutely hate the self-entitlement kids these days have. we're all screwed in a decade when they become the main work force...
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I don't understand sometimes. After reading post's similar to those posted above, I regret ever posting what I experienced. People always find a way to twist things and I think that has a major role on the development of the entire forums community. Bashing and condescending attitudes only discourage others like myself and possible future users from using the accessibilities of the site freely as they should.
As applied everywhere if you have nothing positive to say than it's not necessary. Apply yourself in the position of the reader before posting and see if your comments are useful and at the same time respectful.
When is this age problem ever going to be squashed? Some like myself work harder than others and others are just fortunate. Why can't we just leave it at that? Are their privileges distributed by age?
After reading the threads above, I don't think my involvement on this thread will be the same as when I first joined it. I am pretty sure many users feel the same.
As applied everywhere if you have nothing positive to say than it's not necessary. Apply yourself in the position of the reader before posting and see if your comments are useful and at the same time respectful.
When is this age problem ever going to be squashed? Some like myself work harder than others and others are just fortunate. Why can't we just leave it at that? Are their privileges distributed by age?
After reading the threads above, I don't think my involvement on this thread will be the same as when I first joined it. I am pretty sure many users feel the same.
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i feel as you do, slickrab. i believe you are very mature for your age and are handling the incident and the consequent fallout here quite well. please remember that this is an online community and people CAN and WILL voice there opinion. i've received several unfavorable comments in the past, but so be it. ignore what you must and move forward.
do not be discouraged from posted here because there are many tips/tricks/facts/suggestions out there that have the potentional to aid you in a time of need.
my two cents,
vinny
do not be discouraged from posted here because there are many tips/tricks/facts/suggestions out there that have the potentional to aid you in a time of need.
my two cents,
vinny
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Wow. Just wow. I can't believe all the bashing in this thread. People on the Acurazine community are usually so much more helpful and respectful.
Anyway, on to the topic... I can understand being upset about having crappy customer care/service from a dealership and wanting some sort of small payback for that (or even an official apology letter). I believe the offer of an $800 repair was more than fair. To make Acura/the dealership pay for the entire $1000+ repair is going a little over the top IMO. As stated by somebody else, there was no real damage or depreciation because of the incident.
That doesn't sound like something a mature "adult" would say.
Anyway, on to the topic... I can understand being upset about having crappy customer care/service from a dealership and wanting some sort of small payback for that (or even an official apology letter). I believe the offer of an $800 repair was more than fair. To make Acura/the dealership pay for the entire $1000+ repair is going a little over the top IMO. As stated by somebody else, there was no real damage or depreciation because of the incident.
Originally Posted by LukeaTron
If you were to try and claim you'd been made to suffer emotionally, I'd like to see you kicked in the face so I could spit on you and laugh at your emo ass curled up in the fetal position crying. Welcome to the world of adults where your feelings will occasionally be hurt. Grow up.
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Too many posters got hot under the collar. It's time to congratulate the OP on turning a bad service situation around into a win-win. Yay, hurray. Let's move on.
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Originally Posted by DJ2000
80290-SEC-A01 FILTER ASSY., AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 55.50
80310-SEA-G01 HOSE ASSY., AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 147.78
80362-SEA-000 STAY, AIR CONDITIONER PIPE 2008 TSX 4.86
80363-SDC-000 CLAMP B, AIR CONDITIONER PIPE 2008 TSX 3.50
80440-SW5-A01 SWITCH, AIR CONDITIONING (DUAL) 2008 TSX 40.30
80560-SEA-G01 THERMISTOR, AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 12.60
80650-SEA-G10 SUB-HARNESS, AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 31.62
these are the parts for the A/C. How did their cost come to $1000
Dealers sure know how to stick it to you
80310-SEA-G01 HOSE ASSY., AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 147.78
80362-SEA-000 STAY, AIR CONDITIONER PIPE 2008 TSX 4.86
80363-SDC-000 CLAMP B, AIR CONDITIONER PIPE 2008 TSX 3.50
80440-SW5-A01 SWITCH, AIR CONDITIONING (DUAL) 2008 TSX 40.30
80560-SEA-G01 THERMISTOR, AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 12.60
80650-SEA-G10 SUB-HARNESS, AIR CONDITIONER 2008 TSX 31.62
these are the parts for the A/C. How did their cost come to $1000
Dealers sure know how to stick it to you
A/C condenser $300.00 Source
EMAcuraParts.com3 hours of labor @ $125 p/h = $375.00 Source: Paragon Acura and most NYC/NJ/LI Dealers
Above those also the seals and the frion ($50) and above that some of what you have in your list. Also add dealer prices to those parts which means add $150 to the condenser and add nearly 10% to everything else.
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Originally Posted by slickrab
Lol, i think your forgetting the two most important components to this repair
A/C condenser $300.00 SourceEMAcuraParts.com
3 hours of labor @ $125 p/h = $375.00 Source: Paragon Acura and most NYC/NJ/LI Dealers
Above those also the seals and the frion ($50) and above that some of what you have in your list. Also add dealer prices to those parts which means add $150 to the condenser and add nearly 10% to everything else.
A/C condenser $300.00 Source
EMAcuraParts.com3 hours of labor @ $125 p/h = $375.00 Source: Paragon Acura and most NYC/NJ/LI Dealers
Above those also the seals and the frion ($50) and above that some of what you have in your list. Also add dealer prices to those parts which means add $150 to the condenser and add nearly 10% to everything else.
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Originally Posted by slickrab
Lol, i think your forgetting the two most important components to this repair
A/C condenser $300.00 SourceEMAcuraParts.com
3 hours of labor @ $125 p/h = $375.00 Source: Paragon Acura and most NYC/NJ/LI Dealers
Above those also the seals and the frion ($50) and above that some of what you have in your list. Also add dealer prices to those parts which means add $150 to the condenser and add nearly 10% to everything else.
A/C condenser $300.00 Source
EMAcuraParts.com3 hours of labor @ $125 p/h = $375.00 Source: Paragon Acura and most NYC/NJ/LI Dealers
Above those also the seals and the frion ($50) and above that some of what you have in your list. Also add dealer prices to those parts which means add $150 to the condenser and add nearly 10% to everything else.
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Wow, lotsa drama in this thread. The things I gleaned from it: slickrab, good stuff on you getting what you think you deserved. More importantly, being persistent about something that you care about is a lesson learned.
The last thing to note is that Paragon is trying to revamp its image. This was the Service Manager's way to get the word of mouth out. Good to know for people out there.
The last thing to note is that Paragon is trying to revamp its image. This was the Service Manager's way to get the word of mouth out. Good to know for people out there.
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be going back there either. I just think the degree to which he feels violated is completely overblown in relation to the infraction. The notion that the police should be involved is absurd.
And rex, you're analogies are just as absurd as this kids reasoning. Saying a used condom hanging off the gearshift is the same thing as an empty soda can in the cup holder... What? For real? You think that's a valid comparison? The assumption that the techs were out joy riding in his car because the seats were leaned back is just looking for a reason to get pissed. Might it be because they were looking under the dashboard perhaps? Nah, way too reasonable. Finally, why should he expect the problem to be fixed when he told them not to do anything?
slickrab, just don't go back there and be done with it. You aren't going to gain anything but a bunch of hassle by staying involved with them. They already lost your business, that's as much damage as you can hope to inflict on them at this point.
And rex, you're analogies are just as absurd as this kids reasoning. Saying a used condom hanging off the gearshift is the same thing as an empty soda can in the cup holder... What? For real? You think that's a valid comparison? The assumption that the techs were out joy riding in his car because the seats were leaned back is just looking for a reason to get pissed. Might it be because they were looking under the dashboard perhaps? Nah, way too reasonable. Finally, why should he expect the problem to be fixed when he told them not to do anything?
slickrab, just don't go back there and be done with it. You aren't going to gain anything but a bunch of hassle by staying involved with them. They already lost your business, that's as much damage as you can hope to inflict on them at this point.
lukatron, you're a bit annoying. I would call "lukatron : fagtard" a lovely comparison. I'd think if there was trash in the car and 10 extra miles.. it kinda screams joy ride.
anyways! I'd be pissed if someone drove my beloved car around. and these people sound like real 'professionals'.. they do need to be taught a lesson, not so sure about legal action though. but hey you were mad, I'd say I was going to go into the place and strangle every one of those assholes with my bare hands. and being called a "kid"... they really shouldn't do that, who cares if the guy has 2 heads and is from mars, he's still a paying customer. but yeah I can totally sympathize.
and for writing this, I'm just waiting.. DARING you to call me a kid =D
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Originally Posted by MissTsxLover
lukatron, you're a bit annoying. I would call "lukatron : fagtard" a lovely comparison. I'd think if there was trash in the car and 10 extra miles.. it kinda screams joy ride.
anyways! I'd be pissed if someone drove my beloved car around. and these people sound like real 'professionals'.. they do need to be taught a lesson, not so sure about legal action though. but hey you were mad, I'd say I was going to go into the place and strangle every one of those assholes with my bare hands. and being called a "kid"... they really shouldn't do that, who cares if the guy has 2 heads and is from mars, he's still a paying customer. but yeah I can totally sympathize.
and for writing this, I'm just waiting.. DARING you to call me a kid =D
anyways! I'd be pissed if someone drove my beloved car around. and these people sound like real 'professionals'.. they do need to be taught a lesson, not so sure about legal action though. but hey you were mad, I'd say I was going to go into the place and strangle every one of those assholes with my bare hands. and being called a "kid"... they really shouldn't do that, who cares if the guy has 2 heads and is from mars, he's still a paying customer. but yeah I can totally sympathize.
and for writing this, I'm just waiting.. DARING you to call me a kid =D
LukeaTron, ignore it and move on.
Make a hole, coming thru!
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From: Somewhere between 70 and 125 mph
Originally Posted by MissTsxLover
and for writing this, I'm just waiting.. DARING you to call me a kid =D
Now let's get back to the business of appreciating our fine ve-hic-les.
Cruisin'
Joined: Jun 2008
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From: Durham, NC
Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
As a new member, you need to learn the rules around here. Quit the name calling and grow up or you're gonna have a vacation. Don't think about starting shit around here.
LukeaTron, ignore it and move on.
LukeaTron, ignore it and move on.
oh look, another friendly member! no worries, I'm not saying anything else except that he should really not sit around and say shit. the end. and that's only because I'm not sinking down to the stupid levels of being mean on the internet..
Team Owner
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Originally Posted by MissTsxLover
oh look, another friendly member! no worries, I'm not saying anything else except that he should really not sit around and say shit. the end. and that's only because I'm not sinking down to the stupid levels of being mean on the internet..
TsxLover; I will give you credit on this. I completely agree with your thoughts on the whole situation as far as things being left in the car. Period.
But, as others said, you need to crank your stove down to simmer in a real big way as you are on the fast track to losing all respect from the forum members before you can even get yourself established, if not just banned because a mod decides your annoying.
Just a word of advice if you really like this forum and don't want to be exiled.
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From: NY
Originally Posted by MissTsxLover
oh look, another friendly member! no worries, I'm not saying anything else except that he should really not sit around and say shit. the end. and that's only because I'm not sinking down to the stupid levels of being mean on the internet..
Cruisin'
Joined: Jun 2008
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From: Durham, NC
Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
Yes, I am quite friendly, but you have gotten yourself off to a bad start here. We don't tolerate name calling or offensive posts, so please change your tone when addressing people, especially moderators.
okay.. sorry. just don't like people like a certain someone =/
Cruisin'
Joined: Jun 2008
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From: Durham, NC
Originally Posted by TS_eXpeed
TsxLover; I will give you credit on this. I completely agree with your thoughts on the whole situation as far as things being left in the car. Period.
But, as others said, you need to crank your stove down to simmer in a real big way as you are on the fast track to losing all respect from the forum members before you can even get yourself established, if not just banned because a mod decides your annoying.
Just a word of advice if you really like this forum and don't want to be exiled.
But, as others said, you need to crank your stove down to simmer in a real big way as you are on the fast track to losing all respect from the forum members before you can even get yourself established, if not just banned because a mod decides your annoying.
Just a word of advice if you really like this forum and don't want to be exiled.
All of the things you said to me, could be applied to someone else. Well, should be. People like ganging up on me for an opinion..
Racer
Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Indiana
Originally Posted by MissTsxLover
All of the things you said to me, could be applied to someone else. Well, should be. People like ganging up on me for an opinion..
Originally Posted by LukeaTron
Yeah, they dicked you around a little and left a bit garbage in your car. They also drove your car a whole 10 miles.
Dude, it's absurd to be as pissed off as you are. Calling the cops? Are you serious? Please record the whole thing so we can laugh at the cops laughing at you.
Raped. Pfft. Kid indeed.
Dude, it's absurd to be as pissed off as you are. Calling the cops? Are you serious? Please record the whole thing so we can laugh at the cops laughing at you.
Raped. Pfft. Kid indeed.
To the og poster, sorry about what happened to you I would be hella pissed. I don't know how you kept your cool but great job man. If it's any comfort at all, I would've probably done the same thing and just leave without raising a finger. But rest assured, the next day I would come back with intensity and attack the hell out of them, with words of course.
Good luck bro!
Make a hole, coming thru!
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From: Somewhere between 70 and 125 mph
Just unsubscribe from the thread, Miss. You might be amazed how quickly you forget about a thread and all that was said in it. There are a lot of other interesting threads around here. If you're still in "new owner honeymoon" with your car, I'd recommend the FAQs, and particularly the "Easter eggs" thread for more fun and prizes. There are things your car does you won't find in the manual. 
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