One thing that kind of bugs me about the notorious rift between 1 and 2 on the 6MT is having to upshift during a sweeping left turn from a stop. As frequently happens here from a left turn signal on a wide highway.

Does this bug anyone else? Or am I just OCD on this?

I just dont like having to rev up to 4000 in a left turn if I'm not trying to be rodney racetrack. Other than that, the low 1 is a minor annoyance. I am somewhat perplexed that Honda engineers would design it that way to keep an extra shift out of 0-60. That just reeks of Detroit engineering to me.

 

sigh. another 1-2 shift thread?

i dont understand why so many complain, it's not like you dont know you're buying a close ratio tranny.

and to be honest, i dont understand what you are trying to say. you have to shift up when you make a left from a stop? which happens alot on the highway?

:wtf:

 

Tell me about it.... the 1-2 shift is my worst

I find that if i shift early (~2-2.5k rpm) it goes relatively smooth, but the drawback is, a grandma driving an echo will be tailing you throughout the turn. I haven't really rev that high (above 4k rpm) to perform this shift, because that's ridiculous for city driving....Also, my left foot stays on the clutch longer in order to keep it smooth..

the shifter however, became less notchy compare to when my car was new. but anyway, i think this is the most annoying thing about this car.

 

I think you guys just need more experience with driving an MT.

Complaining about shifting out of 1st to 2nd usually come from drivers still trying to perfect their shifting/timing with driving a manual. It will come with more experience.

IMHO TSX 6MT is one of the smoothest and I have no problems shifting.

 

But it's not close-ratio from 1-2. It's 3.226 to 1.880.

With maybe a 2.xxx first gear, the shift point would not be necessary in a sweeping left (as in crossing several lanes of traffic, i.e. a highway or wide road). This is one of the few instances where it makes a practical difference when you drive. Otherwise, it's just an early shift point and not a very big deal.

And I should clarify, I don't have any trouble making the shift. The nature of the turn is such that rpms drop adequately to make a very smooth 1-2 shift without much thought. It's just having to shift in the middle of a turn, even when not trying to haul a$$.

 

Not sure what you mean by "shift in the middle of a turn" into a uphill/downhill grade?

 

I've never driven a car where I didnt have to shift from 1-2 in the middle of a left turn from a stop Not a compaint for me...

Actually, I've been recently just skipping 1st. At a stop, I'll keep it in second, blip the throttle to 3-4k and go. Pretty smooth...If I wanna launch, its in 1st.

 

Exactly what I was thinking. If you don't like having to shift during the turn, then just start in 2nd. The TSX has sufficient torque that this isn't a problem. Hell, I could do it before in my Integra without problems.

 

I think his point is that 1 and 2 are *not* close in ratio.

I do agree that shifting during a left turn shouldn't really be an issue, though. Every car I've driven was like this. 1st is for crawling and drag racing.

 

Personally, who cares. When I start from 1-2, sometimes it goes really smooth and the car shoots forward quick, and some times the whole process just feel plain clunky. I am so used to it and don't even mind it at all. I did find that if I use my left toes to work the clutch instead of the whole foot, the gear shifting process could go pretty smooth. At the end, this is so insignificant.

 

What's so annoying about shift in the middle of a turn? Can't you steer with one hand? This sounds like a MT complaint to me.

 

my thoughts exactly.

 

i think the tsx tranny is excellent.

 

what about right turns?

 

the answer is ...............





































................... 5AT.

 

does AT shift up to second gear automatically even when you are in SS mode?

 

 

oh no, the AT'ers are hijacking this thread!

 

from the expert on thread jacking.......

 

i'm not a thread jacker, i'm a thread starter!

i have a new idea for a thread.

TSX Drivers w/ domntars UNITE!

 

V - domn


dzuy - ^

 

what the heck? the font and trout are changing sizes!

 

I hate those fonting trout.

 

lol...Sorry MarkPinTx, your gettin on this thread...

 

 

Yeah, but then the thread would have to be titled "Another 1-2-3-4-5 shift annoyance"

 

holy cow. that's funny.

 

 

Ok. Ok. I have taken pains to note that my MT-driving buddies do NOT have to upshift in most left turns and do not have to wind up to screeching rpms. Maybe I'm just not as sensitive to their rpms as my own. These include a Contour V6, a G35 Sedan, and a CRX.

The Contour has signicantly lower hp, but higher torque. The G35 we all know about, and the CRX is semi-similar to the TSX, but lacks the close/long ratio MT.

 

The TSX is the smoothest manual transmission I have ever owned. Previous cars I have owned include 2 integras, RSX-S, Accord, and a 350Z.

 

sorry man, wish i could help ya, but i've driven s2k's, civics, integras and i have to shift if i dont want to pass 3k on the tach when i turn.

even my friends audi you have to.

well i guess you don't have to, but why would you want the rpm to stay high?

i guess i dont really understand what the big deal is. shifting is that hard to do while you turn is it?

 

 

holy cow. i didn't even see that!