narci

Wheen posted this in another forum.

http://www.skunk2.com/raceShop/garageSale.html

1) USED 2450cc Skunk2 K24 Racing Engine: PRICE $8500

These engine were used by Skunk2 Racing used to run 9.80's at 140mph.
with the right header and throttle body configurations, these engines make
320hp running on racing gasoline (tested on a Superflow chassis dyno,
dynojet number should be about 10whp higher). These engines have been
carefully inspected and serviced. long block only!!

Engine Specs:

13.5/13:8 : 1
K24 Block (Sleeved by Golden Eagle)
Ported K20A2 cylinder head
Racing Valvesprings
Forged Valves
Titanium retainers
prototype racing camshafts
prototype racing camgears
lightweight cunningham rods
lightweight wiseco forged pistons
castillos modified crankshaft
head studs
main studs

jlukja

wow, now THAT would be a mod.

moda_way

I don't think any of us could afford the gas needed for 13.8:1 compression much less finding 103 octane at the pump.

K24tunr

Perhaps I should buy this motor and be the first TSX to run 12's in full all motor street trim. I am not being very serious so everyone knows. I'm aware its not a streetable motor.

Tsx536

wheen

Partypooper!
Let us dream and wet our pants all we want.

wheen

I do wonder what car this motor was used in (prolly civic). If one were to swap this into their TSX, I'm sure removal of some material could very well make the car run better than 12! Remember the Realtime guys got their TSXs down to near RSX weight....

narci

I think what you guys are missing is this:

'Ported K20A2 cylinder head'

With the change in head, means no more DBW. Easier to add a k-pro to piggyback the ECU (swap with K20a ecu?) and add a turbo.

From that i have read, the bottom is the same between the K24 and K20.

moda_way

LMAO!!!!!

moda_way

I got that part, but also remember, no guages too. Kinda rough in a daily. I'd love to see someone do this. We've long suspected that RealTime was getting about 300hp+ out of their TSXs and this just proves that theory to be plausible. We know they are 12.1:1 (or higher) compression in the RTR TSXs and this monster is even greater.

BUY IT!!!

narci

Why no gauges?

I forgot what racing series but I remember the commnetator saying that the RSX run K24A bottoms with K20A heads.

moda_way

No DBW and a changed over ECU means your gauges go bye-bye.

narci

Can't you use the RSX gauges?

moda_way

Absolutely if you can fit them into the TSX pod and then make the temp guage, fuel gauge and such work. I think we've gone off on a tangent though. The fact here remains, it is possible to get 320HP out of our engine in a racing format.

narci

True.

320 on racing fuel though, how much on pump?

moda_way

With that compression ratio, call it a knocker motor. With Sunoco 94 octane, the preignition would be so bad, I don't know that you could run it. The other thing about racing motors that we're forgetting is their tolerance lifetime. Most racing motors are rated in hours. Basically, unless you plan to race it, I'd say your looking at 40hrs or less before it would need an overhaul. Additionally the tranny and drivetrain components would need serious modification to get the power to them. Again, speaking in terms of a strict swap out, our bubble is burst. You'd be better off to give RTR a call in Wisconsin to see what they could do for you.

K24tunr

This motor was used in a tube chassis RSX that weighs like 2000 lbs. or so. If it was put in a TSX I'd say 11's all motor are more than possible. The compression is way to high for a street motor though. A tamed down version of this motor would be the heat.

rmpage

And A/C, and VSA...

Chris_F

i'm pretty sure a MOTEC ecu setup could run that engine and keep everything working perfectly fine - very expensive path to take though

CCColtsicehockey

#1 saying in the tuner world "you gotta pay to play"

Maxboost

Sorry for taking this off topic but where the heck does Skunk 2 get all their money for R/D tons of engine, having a race team, and such. I was browsing through their website and I was pretty amazed of their facility but I still don't know where'd they get all the fundings from. Their catalog for aftermarket parts isn't that big either. Not many people that I know uses Skunk2, so that means they're not making profit from selling parts.
Could it be building engines for other team? R&D for other companies?

rmpage

Kinda doubt it...do they make one specifically for the North American TSX?

Chris_F

rmpage, its a complex setup but i've been speaking to one of the guys at centrax auto (a tuning/parts shop in brisbane, australia) and he said it's definitely possible. Apparently seperate ecu's are required to run the functions that would other wise be rendered useless in the car (speedo etc.) but essentially it can be done if you have the money - a tsx specific application isn't neccessary with a motec. The guy at centrax auto will be using a motec setup for a k24/k20 hybrid project in a dc2R to be used for tracking.

I'll have to have another chat to him about ecu options but, from our initial discussions, he said the ecu setup he currently runs in his DC5R was around 10,000 with tuning - the cost was higher becuase he is the first one in austalia to run such a setup, but obvioulsy it's not cheap.

Maxboost

From what i've remember the MOTEC ECU alone cost about $2200, and that is the cheapest one. M4 if I remember the name correctly.
Like Chris_F said, with the MOTEC it does not have to be specified for the TSX, M4 is universal. The problem lies with fiding someone who really knows MOTEC. The neat feature is that wiring isn't that PITA since you can connect it as a piggy back and lets OEM controls HVAC, radio, etc. while MOTEC controls the engine.

Chris_F

Yea , MOTEC is defintiely an expensive route to go, but the only one i know of at the present time. the costs involved in getting such an ecu and finding/paying someone to tune it isnt worth it for a lot of ppl. They are really powerful though and can be used to really fine tune the engine, another benifit about them being universal - if you ever get a different car it'll work on that too

N_Smith

LoL!