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Old 12-06-2003, 11:38 AM
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Turbo Kit Interest?

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I'm AJ with SSR Engineering, you migh t have seen our work on other cars like mainly Nissans and the RX-8.Well I'm here to see how interested you would be in having a turbo system for your TSX. If you are, we would be accepting the first car as a Custom Turbo Kit set-up where he will receive cost on the turbo kit with free installation and free tuning. But lets see how the polls turn out first. For a list of information please visit our website (www.ssr-engineering.com) All the price details and everything are stricly TBA there isn't any estimates.
Here's Some Pictures of our Turbo Kits
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pretty sweet man! I'm sure someone will take you up on it
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shoot if i was still in cali id drive over there and donate my car to the R&D
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i live in the phoenix area and am willing to loan my car to R&D
Old 12-06-2003, 03:13 PM
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We actually need the car in Southern California (El Cajon) to be exact.
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What would the cost be?
How long would you need the car?
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We need the car for 4-8 Weeks, yes it's a broad time span. However we accepted 4 cars and they've averaged around 6 weeks total. We would need the car, sometime late December early January so we can clear out some other cars we have here (skylines, supras, etc.)
Depending on the component list it won't be too much, please contact us at sales@ssr-engineering.com reguarding the TSX Turbo Kit Donor
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if I had a manual I'd be right there...i'm from san diego
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If any of you have seen the products on our website, you'll be able to see that we only use top-notch components. When you have new cars like the TSX, G35, RX-8 etc. you should only outfit your car with the best. Our products are a bit pricey but we stand 100% behind it.

BTW: The transmission doesen't matter, whether it's Automatic or Manual, as long as everything is in the same place we really shouldn't run into any changes between the transmissions. If your interested and you own an automatic we can still accept you
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Just out of curiousity, how much boost do you planning to put on the TSX? Any piggy back/ stand alone or just boost controller and MAP sensor re-adjustment?
heck, i'd love to send my car in cuz i'm gonna be away for a month this dec, but dang i'm in Chicago.
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Tell you what....you send me a car to drive for those 4 to 8 weeks and I'll let you have my TSX for that time periord. I would LOVE to see a turbo kit for the TSX. Even if it were only 5.5lbs of boost. But keep in mind that the RSX runs 11.0:1 and we run 10.5:1. The cybernations kit runs 8lbs of boost on there stage I kit for the RSX-S and pulls about 270-280HP at the wheels. I would love to run our motors at 7lbs as a baseline boost with 8lbs optional. To have 250HP at the wheels would be a godsend for our cars.
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GRRRR EL cajon???? why couldnt you have done this 3 months ago i stayed in SD too dayam....yes i would like to know how you are going to tune the car as well....i think i have figured out how to set up the APEX VAFC II but havent had a chance to try it yet...let me know what you guys do so i can try it too
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I am willing to donate my car. take a look at my car, the link is in my sig.

I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THIS!
but, i am curious about the piggy system and the boost.

Let me know what you think, i can be there in 6-8 hours!


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We use a unit from a company called Split Second, it's a lap top programmable air/fuel calibrator. It's a lot like the S-AFC / VAFC, except it doesent have a display. Basically its like a whole new ECU and we actually send it out pre-tuned to a distinct Fuel Pressure. It's all plug and play, no tuning involved, unless you wanna lean or richen the mixture out abit for more or less power.
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Originally posted by SSR Engineering
We use a unit from a company called Split Second, it's a lap top programmable air/fuel calibrator. It's a lot like the S-AFC / VAFC, except it doesent have a display. Basically its like a whole new ECU and we actually send it out pre-tuned to a distinct Fuel Pressure. It's all plug and play, no tuning involved, unless you wanna lean or richen the mixture out abit for more or less power.
Can it do advance/retard of the vtc on the i-vtec system? If not I would reccomend possibly looking at the new k series repgrogramable ecu from hondata. That extra tunability could really pay off.
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and wht about the drive by wire will it work with that if not there is no point
Old 12-07-2003, 06:37 PM
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The Drive by wire will only be affected with an atmospheric blow off valve, we are re-routing the charge back into the intake tract.
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Originally posted by TinkySD
Can it do advance/retard of the vtc on the i-vtec system? If not I would reccomend possibly looking at the new k series repgrogramable ecu from hondata. That extra tunability could really pay off.
We have an S2000 now that works great with the Split Second ECU, yes we can get an optional advance/retard for ignition timing.
Old 12-07-2003, 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by SSR Engineering
The Drive by wire will only be affected with an atmospheric blow off valve, we are re-routing the charge back into the intake tract.
so u will be using a bypass valve instead of a blowoff valve?
Old 12-07-2003, 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by JaTe
so u will be using a bypass valve instead of a blowoff valve?
Awwwwwww, if you gonna use the by-pass valve then we wouldn't get that Psst... sound after i let go of the gas then!!! Oh well, we can't have anything...
Old 12-07-2003, 11:46 PM
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No, a Blow-off Valve. We are using a blow-off valve with the option to be re-routed.
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my question is this how are you going to set it up so that you can change the air fuel ratio for optimum tuning? no one has a ECU or piggy back out for the TSX are you gonna be the first? i think i have figured out the APEX VAFC II but havent had a chance to test it yet...i want to lower the vtec change over point 1000 rpm 11:1 A/F ratio and push as much boost as possible. there are no internals made yet for our cars just sleeves that "should fit" from AEBS 1500 bucks though. so explain how u will have it tuned and more people might trust your product. im not tryin to dog you i just want to be sure before i throw 5g's at u. thats alot of money to buy something with that may blow up in my face u know
Old 12-08-2003, 01:25 AM
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Well it's quite simple, and i understand your curiosity. Here's how it works along with other piggy-back fuel management systems. What happens is when your MAF senses air it changes the air/fuel ratio by voltage. Altering that voltage leads to a change in air/fuel ratio. Now when you think of someone altering the ECU maps thats a little different then Piggy Back tuning. I can understand how someone hasn't come out with a hacked ECU which actually changes Timing, Revs, Limters and Air Fuel ratios. IMO (The best next to standalone). Basically what our "Piggy-Back" does is intercept the Signal sent back and forth to the ecu altering it via our command. So what we do then is simply set up a program which would put your cars in a very conservative air fuel state. something like 12.5:1. Considering every car different and fuel pressures can alter Air Fuel ratios this should give you the lenancy to not chance it, who cares, a little rich is better then lean and detonating. The piggy back unit is lap top programmable but we dont recommend altering with settings unless you plan on uping boost pressures.

"The PSC1-003 Programmable Signal Calibrator provides precise calibration of fuel by adjusting fuel control signals. It can be used with naturally aspirated or forced induction engines. It is intended primarily for flow based systems and is generally used to adjust fuel by calibrating the mass air flow (MAF) signal."

I hope that answers your questions. Now come on guys I know someone out there wants a turbo kit at cost
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You got one...go look at the first page....21 in ARZ said he could have his car there ASAP!!
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ASAP!

6-8 HOURS MAN!

how much is cost, btw? $0?
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I'll send ya $50 to help with the cost....I NEED A TURBO!!
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To me.......or to the turbo guys?

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hey...your the one who's gotta buy the parts at cost
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HAHAHA, true!

im kinda nervouss now, after strokless.......not sure if i want to be a giny pig, and pay for it!

dunno......
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SSR Engineering........

Want to gain my trust? answer me this......

Which would be better for our car's?

Turbo or Supercharger


keep in mind, we NEED torque, mainly low end trq.

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Originally posted by 21_in_az
SSR Engineering........

Want to gain my trust? answer me this......

Which would be better for our car's?

Turbo or Supercharger


keep in mind, we NEED torque, mainly low end trq.

Low end torque isn't very useful in FWD sports cars. First off getting too much low end torque will just encourage wheel spin. Our turbo kit for the Sentra generated 242Ft LBS of Torque at 3400RPM and it kept it all the way to redline at 5.5PSI. You'll always get more torque with a turbocharger because it's alot easier to adjust boost pressure. And most turbo's flow alot more CFM. You'll see a peak in power early in superchargers and it usually drops off before redline.
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Originally posted by SSR Engineering
Low end torque isn't very useful in FWD sports cars. First off getting too much low end torque will just encourage wheel spin. Our turbo kit for the Sentra generated 242Ft LBS of Torque at 3400RPM and it kept it all the way to redline at 5.5PSI. You'll always get more torque with a turbocharger because it's alot easier to adjust boost pressure. And most turbo's flow alot more CFM. You'll see a peak in power early in superchargers and it usually drops off before redline.
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well said.


Also, what is the deal with sponsership?
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aiight peep it you can change the A/F ratio with a piggy back system but you cant change the timing or vtec switch over point? i would much rather use a piggy back that would allow me all those changes. ESPECIALLY when it comes to boosting. we are running a very high 10.5:1 CR and there have been numerous TSX's and RSX's that go back to the dealerships with valve damage because of this high compression and downshifting at thte wrong time, vavle floating etc.. IMO i would want a piggy back or a reflash that would allow me to change all this..ie retard the timing when under boost and lower vtec engagement so that it was 1000 rpm lower that way when we shift we stay vtec and hold power better. Its not that i dont trust you SSR there has to be questions asked for answers to be shown. i have had ALOT of experience with turbo VTEC engines and they dont last long unless tuned correctly. We had a 370 whp LS power del sol...280 daily driven GSR (may she rest in peace) turbo B16 civics and more. i have seen almost every kind of way to blow up a honda motor...lol if i didnt do it myself and thats how we learn trial and error....thing is i cant afford to have an error now. Dont get me wrong i love turbo..and i cant wait to turbo mine...my goal is 400 whp on my TSX it will take time but i will get it if your kit can get me there safely then ill buy it. Ijust need to know for a fact im not gonna blow up and shoot a few pistons through my oil pan. and how much is cost on this Turbo kit? and how much will retail be?
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status on this kit? CARB exemption?

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I would love to give it a try anytime.

Southern California, Orange County, Irvine here.

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i don;t think either Turbo Kit or Supercharger is good for engine. Ofcourse you will get more HP or more torque, but these two things using close to the limite of the engine, tans and shorter you engine life. i personaly won't put any of these in my car.
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so...i guess this guy shot himself or something......

wow.....suacide rate is up!
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yea nothin...was hoping for a repoly i guess i nuked him with questions
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i'm interested... haven't looked at your site yet but i will... i can leave my car with you but just have to meet you first... i believe in your product.... i have many friends with your turbo kit so if you can im or email me that would be great... if this works out maybe you can turbo my other car also...hehe thanks

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