Dan Martin

Zapata

kick ass glad to see LSD works. I had a similar experience going from 5at cls to 6mt cls w/ HLSD. Biggest difference was the trq steer but i wouldn't trade the handling improvements of the HLSD for anything.....i'll deal with the trq steer

NocturnalEvo

hey TSX007, how much did RPM charge you for the install?
I kno they charge a LOTTTTTTT, just to get my last car dyno tuned with the v-afc cost me about $800 with install.

Also how much did the LSD cost u?

Thanks man!
- Najeeb

TSX007

I paid $850 final. I had to get it towed to the dealer but my insurance reimbursed me(I told them it broke down). RPM had a problem with the install but that was really due to lack of experience with the car. Tom and Chan were really honest with me and with knowledge they've gained from working on the TSX tranny, I would, without hesitation, recommend them for a TSX LSD install. It's definitely worth the upgrade. I purchased the JDM Type R LSD from an e-bayer from Japan at $500 total, it supposedly had less than 100km (of course I can't prove that) but it was definitely in mint condition. I didn't want to spend $1000 on a Quaife if I wasn't sure it would fit. But at least now we know it would.

NocturnalEvo

so RPM charged you around $350ish for the install? how long did it take for them to do the install? And your Type-R LSD was from what year? Its off the EURO-R Accord right?

Also, where could I get a JDM LSD for my TSX? Do you by any chance have the ebay guys username or any contact info?

Sorry for the many quesitons, but im very interested in this

p.s.
yea chan is a very nice and helpful guy

TSX007

Noooo.... $850 was what I actually paid for the install. The car was in the shop for 3 weeks because the computer had to be reset at the dealer and the troubleshooting it took to find that the magnetic sensor was damaged and to special order the part. Without problems it would've taken 2 days max. The LSD is from a 2003 DC5 Integra Type R aka RSX(in the U.S.) not the Euro-R. I purchased it from "dateline2000" on ebay. Be aware that based on this install you can safely assume that any LSD produced for the RSX will fit the TSX. Oh by the way, don't waste your time looking for a Euro-R LSD because 1.you'll never find one and 2. it's a 2.0L engine which may possibly mean that it's the same LSD in the Type R.

fdl

$500 for an LSD seems like a really good price. The aftermarket stuff seems to go for $1000+.

NocturnalEvo

Oh aright. Cool thanks buddy

TSX007

Actually I've seen them regularly for less(approx $300-$350)
on ebay but they usually have more miles on them.

cmf

TSX007...maybe I didn't read good enough, but what exactly were the problems they ran into on fitting the LSD?

TSX007

The fitting of the LSD wasn't the problem, in fact, it's a direct fit.
The first problem was not even related to the install, it had to do with the immobilizer....the computer wasn't recognizing the code within the transponder key so the car wouldn't start....so it got towed to the dealer to reset the immobilizer system. The second problem was due to damage to the pickup sensor during the install.(the car would start but then stall after moving a few meters) It took a while to troubleshoot the problem since they had no experience with the TSX tranny. Apparently the TSX doesn't use a speedo gear it uses the pickup sensor to measure mileage.

Stokeless_TSX

hmm i want one now does the VSA still work???

cmf

So what you explained above about the problems...is that common to happen??? Is that a problem everyone might or will encounter when doing this type of install?
Thanks for the info by the way!

NocturnalEvo

luckily i live within 45mins of RPM*NYC. So they should be able to do the install without the problems you had correct?

TSX007

Correct

TSX007

The problems were due to lack of experience with the TSX. As long as you're aware of the potential issues with the install you can avoid them, for example, I would remove the pickup assembly before tearing down the tranny(it is located on the tranny case), to avoid the problem I had with it.

kaikai114

so to what degree does LSD eliminate understeer? since TSX does not understeer as much as most of other FWD vehicles, does adding a LSD totally eliminate understeer, if not, how many percent elimination of understeer in your opinion?

kaikai114

so to what degree does LSD eliminate understeer? since TSX does not understeer as much as most of other FWD vehicles (or more controllable and predictable when understeering), does adding a LSD totally eliminate understeer, if not, how many percent elimination of understeer in your opinion?

xizor

a LSD does not prevent understeer, it actually has no affect on the suspension. It does however help acceleration out of corners when a wheeling is spinning.

CarKnack

I thought LSD and my TSX would be a good match, but when all those cars started melting and turning into sheep, I pulled over, walked up to the top of the hill, and sat for six hours before coming down enough to drive.,...

MemRheins

So QOTD is still..... Does VSA work???

TSX007

VSA still works but it takes alot to activate, for instance, it has only come on several times since the LSD was installed and that was when I pushed it in the rain. Haven't driven it in the snow yet...

MemRheins

Terrific...sounds great, just wish i had the money

PixelHarmony

How come LSD doesn't come standard with a lot of cars? I mean if they put it on the old school corolla how come not every car?

xizor

unnecessary for regular driving, and its another part that could break and need to be replaced

TSX Hokie

And an LSD introduces more drivetrain losses, so fuel economy and dyno numbers should go down slightly. Any comment 007?

Dan Martin

Any driveline losses would be very minimal.

The main reasons you don't see more LSDs on cars are:
1) cost
2) increased torque steer in FWD cars
3) 99% of the general public think that LSD was something they did in the 60's.

JeffTSX

TSX007

sad but true, In fact, we have a few right here on this forum...no joke.
2) cost

Zapata

Uhm....yes it does

darth62

And, the other 1% do it now.

BTW, aren't LSD and VSA sort of mutually opposing concepts?

TSX007

I don't think I would personally define it as mutually opposing but I get the jest of what you mean. If you take a macroview of it's function yes, if you look at what actually occurs in detail(microview) then the answer is no. If anyone wants to go into detail feel free, but if it was mutually interacting then we would not have the current Acura TL 6mt it has both LSD and VSA

Lung Fu Mo Shi

LSD VSA RPM NYC 6MT CLS HLSD TL FWD QOTD....



FU ITB.

What do I win?

TSX007

4u sh-awd tsx

xizor

Please explain how, I'd like to hear

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

I actually would love to see aspecial handling package as an option on the next minor freshening for the TSX that would include the A-Spec suspension plus an LSD and some 18-inch wheels. This, coupled with a solid bump in output would make the TSX just about the perfect daily driver that could be used on the weekend as an Auto-Xer.

RMATIC09

LSD?

Didnt know car's could get addicted to drugs except for NOS.


time to google.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

You're kidding me, right?

sauceman

Never too late to learn about LSD and all it's vitues!

RMATIC09