TSX Dynos
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This is an awesome graph for analysis.
dotted blue -Dougs Stock(no intake nor headers)
dotted green -Dougs Hondata + comptech i/h
solid blue -Taewlee Injen CAI
pink -Taewlee Hondata + Injen CAI
you can reference this page, http://www.hondata.com/images/dyno-k...stock-tund.gif, to see dougs' dotted blue line is all stock not with i/h.
dotted blue -Dougs Stock(no intake nor headers)
dotted green -Dougs Hondata + comptech i/h
solid blue -Taewlee Injen CAI
pink -Taewlee Hondata + Injen CAI
you can reference this page, http://www.hondata.com/images/dyno-k...stock-tund.gif, to see dougs' dotted blue line is all stock not with i/h.
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you got it wrong, dotted blue is WITH COMPTECH header aND intake... as you can see, comptech didnt provide much gain at all. If you want most power for your buck, go with injen.. If you want to stay as close to stock as possible with less noise, go with comptech. One thing doug said good about comptech intake was that it wasn't as noisy as injen. But i dont give a f$%k about noise. I just want max hp.
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which comes to the conclusion, injen cai with header has a very high chance of putting more power than hondata's tsx. Im ready to buy a header it's just not enough choices for me to pick yet......
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Originally Posted by taewlee
you got it wrong, dotted blue is WITH COMPTECH header aND intake... as you can see, comptech didnt provide much gain at all. If you want most power for your buck, go with injen.. If you want to stay as close to stock as possible with less noise, go with comptech. One thing doug said good about comptech intake was that it wasn't as noisy as injen. But i dont give a f$%k about noise. I just want max hp.
Dotted purple = dougs car stock
orange = dougs car comptec i/h
green = hondata + i/h
Now which line does the dotted blue in your graph look like? the dotted purple one. Shape of the curve is the same and value are near the same.
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Originally Posted by taewlee
you got it wrong, dotted blue is WITH COMPTECH header aND intake... as you can see, comptech didnt provide much gain at all. If you want most power for your buck, go with injen.. If you want to stay as close to stock as possible with less noise, go with comptech. One thing doug said good about comptech intake was that it wasn't as noisy as injen. But i dont give a f$%k about noise. I just want max hp.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
The dotted blue is pretty strong for a stock car. 185hp at the hubs should be around 212 at the crank.
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lol damn, people just take info given to them and turn it into whatever they want it to be... that's ok, it's a common problem. anyways, doug created that dyno to see the comptech stuff and injen stuff before hondata. dotted blue line is not stock, it has comptech header and intake.
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Originally Posted by taewlee
lol damn, people just take info given to them and turn it into whatever they want it to be... that's ok, it's a common problem. anyways, doug created that dyno to see the comptech stuff and injen stuff before hondata. dotted blue line is not stock, it has comptech header and intake.
There is no way you can tell me the dotted orange curve in the graph below(form hondata) which is comptech i/h no hondata is the same as the dotted blue graph in your dyno. Not only is the curve different but hte numbers don't match up. IN the organge graph(comptech i/h no tune) at 4500 rpm he's making almost 170lbft) not the 150 lbft that is on the dotted blue graph.
THe only way the dotted blue graph could be comptech i/h is if you produced less power with them than you do with a stock car and have the exact same shape torque curve. That's not possible. That' snot to say injen/dc isn't the best way to go for max power, it probably is.
here is the taweless dynos
dotted blue and orange lines the same? Nope. Dotted blue and dotted purple? yep. dotted blue and dotted purple are both stock.
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Originally Posted by taewlee
please dont post hondata's and my dyno if you are going to falsify it
don't be a no one falsified anything.
If you can make an actual arguement on facts why the dotted blue line isn't a stock car other than "doug said it" then there is something to talk about. I'm sure someone just made a mistake telling you that's what it was.
Now I appreaciate all lthe dynos you've provided and what not but don't get upset that i pointed out something that appears to be factual. (if someone can prove to me that i'm wrong, i'll gladly apologize but I don't believe I am based on all the dynos we have off the same dyno)
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tinky, i will email you all the dynos i got, lets start a new thread.. this thread is jumping everywhere. I saved 3 of the dynos, we can start a new thread which compares all hondata dynos..
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Originally Posted by taewlee
tinky, i will email you all the dynos i got, lets start a new thread.. this thread is jumping everywhere. I saved 3 of the dynos, we can start a new thread which compares all hondata dynos..
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sorry for getting mad cause you disregarded what i said, but you actaully looked the graphs carefully and compared it to this one
http://www.hondata.com/images/dyno-k...stock-tund.gif
which i've never seen before.
but after looking at your dyno, I can see where the comptech header and intake went over 200 with the red line. Gyah, this whole time I thought the dotted blue line was with comptech header and intake when it was stock!!!! LOL i thought comptech was horrible because of that but i guess comptech isnt so bad =P
http://www.hondata.com/images/dyno-k...stock-tund.gif
which i've never seen before.
but after looking at your dyno, I can see where the comptech header and intake went over 200 with the red line. Gyah, this whole time I thought the dotted blue line was with comptech header and intake when it was stock!!!! LOL i thought comptech was horrible because of that but i guess comptech isnt so bad =P
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That graph comes form this page: http://www.hondata.com/reflash_tsx.html near the bottom.
I have a feeling the most power to be had is going to be injen+header!
I have a feeling the most power to be had is going to be injen+header!
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Blue Dotted line - Manual Transmission TSX with Injen intake and Hondata reflash compared to:
Yellow line - Auto Transmisison TSX with Injen intake Hondata reflash (300 miles on the clock)
Dyno run started at 2500rpm on Auto and 1500rpm on manual.
High torque on Auto at low RPM due to torque converter.
Yellow line - Auto Transmisison TSX with Injen intake Hondata reflash (300 miles on the clock)
Dyno run started at 2500rpm on Auto and 1500rpm on manual.
High torque on Auto at low RPM due to torque converter.
#144
Yes -
Absolutely stock 300 mile old auto TSX with and without Hondata reflash (now available)
Notes:
- This was an 05 TSX with an 04 computer.
- The gains are exceptionally good for not having an intake and header.
- The 7600 RPM rev limit is only accessable in manual mode. Shift points have not changed.
Absolutely stock 300 mile old auto TSX with and without Hondata reflash (now available)
Notes:
- This was an 05 TSX with an 04 computer.
- The gains are exceptionally good for not having an intake and header.
- The 7600 RPM rev limit is only accessable in manual mode. Shift points have not changed.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Very nice! That should make some members happy.
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Originally Posted by hondata
Yellow - Injen intake, Auto TSX, reflash
Pink - Auto TSX, reflash
Green - Auto TSX
Pink - Auto TSX, reflash
Green - Auto TSX
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Wow ... time to consider Hondata as my first mod!!! It certainly seems to stand on its own
Edit: So who can plug the 6MT stock + Hondata in to car simulation program and crank out some 0-60 and 1/4 mile guesstimates/improvements
Ohhhhhhh Tinnnnnnky?
Edit: So who can plug the 6MT stock + Hondata in to car simulation program and crank out some 0-60 and 1/4 mile guesstimates/improvements
Ohhhhhhh Tinnnnnnky?
#156
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i have the 600 but my girlfriend needs her brakes fixed, boo hoo. i'm too nice of a guy.
-don't fix brakes
-girlfriend goes off cliff: leads to new girfriend opportunites
-now have money for hondata + playa status
#157
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Simple solution:
-don't fix brakes
-girlfriend goes off cliff: leads to new girfriend opportunites
-now have money for hondata + playa status
-don't fix brakes
-girlfriend goes off cliff: leads to new girfriend opportunites
-now have money for hondata + playa status
YOU READ MY MIND
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Originally Posted by dzuy
didnt taewlee make more power than you w/ his hondata on a dynojet?
i wonder how i would do on a dynojet.
i wonder how i would do on a dynojet.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Simple solution:
-don't fix brakes
-girlfriend goes off cliff: leads to new girfriend opportunites
-now have money for hondata + playa status
-don't fix brakes
-girlfriend goes off cliff: leads to new girfriend opportunites
-now have money for hondata + playa status
but
#160
With all my vacation plans, it's going to be hard for me to save up $600 immediately, but these dynos are making me consider plan B.
Plan B = Purchase Hondata, delay vacation.
Plan B = Purchase Hondata, delay vacation.