Tsex on 19s

Okay! This is kinda wack... I wanna get a drop on the car.. BUT! i dont want to spend 1400 for tien coilovers.. I dont want to rub with the Eibach or neuspeed springs.. I was THINKING about Ground Control Coilvers and some Koni shocks to go with it.. BUT! The coilovers are costing me.. $365 and each dang Koni Shock costs 161 a piece.. so thas around $644 for the dang shocks ALONE! SO.. thas $1,009 for a suspension upgrade.. when i can jus throw in 300 hundred more and get the Tiens... I thought this was a cheaper way to get the coilover affect.. but seems to me, in the end im still spending over a thousand.. Any suggestions.. Im kinda frustrated because im tryin to enter HIN this coming weekend... So, i got a lot of things on order, jus need this dang drop.. Help me out, if yall find some cheaper shocks then Koni... Thanks a bunch...

GSGOMEZ

Hey, go with Eibach Pro kit or Neuspeed sport spring, they will fitted into 19 inch wheels as well, I have seen some TSX with 19 inch on Eibach and Neuspeed with no trouble on rubbing. Go for it. Also, it save you money! Tien and Koni shock are expensive to purchase but Eibach is rated #1 and Neuspeed is rated #2 on suspension lowering spring with stock shock as well. Why don't you go to any shop that sell lowering spring and ask them to measure there and see how inch that your car can drop. Check it out on tsx club website and go to picture gallery and it called badass tsx, there is more picture of tsx with 19 inch with Eibach and Neuspeed. Check it out bro.

xizor

well you could possibly live w/o the koni's and stick w/ the OEM shocks if you don't slam your ride. Because almost no aftermarket shocks are available, anyone here with Eibachs or Neuspeeds are still running on the stocks.

You could get the Ground Controls and do a mild drop between the 1.9-1.5, and 1.4-1.0 that the prokit/sport srpings offer. Your ride would still be ok (not perfect) and you could adjust away to make sure you don't rub.

Tsex on 19s

yea i was jus thinking about that.. I dont want to slam it.. I jus want to close a lil wheel gap... Im prolly gunna go with the Ground Control.. and drop it jus a lil.. stay with these stock shocks for a bit.. and then once i NEED some aftermarket shocks, then Ill see whats on the market.

Dani

Tsex on 19s...
hey, sorry that my post is not related to your question...
noticed that u got 19" RH rims on your TSX, u got any pictures of them on your car? those are really nice classy 5-spoke rims

oh ya, and it's "racing hart" instead of "racing heart"

Tsex on 19s

Eeek! oops sorry for the typo.. Racing Hart.. my bad bro.. as for the pics, i can email them to someone, cause i dont kno how to host them... also, the pics are kinda old... prolly from like 3 months ago.. ill take some recent pics after a few mods are made...

Tsex on 19s

Does anyone else have any suggestions on my suspension upgrade? I'm most likely going to order the Ground Control coilovers on Monday...

tsXgtp

I dunno. 1k sounds awesome to me. For springs, coils and konis...Its very tempting.
How many miles do you have on your car?
I would think the stocks would be good until 40-50k miles while dropped.

tuan209

maybe the mugen? its 1k for the whole system. i emailed them once and they offered me free shipping too.

Dani

Tsex on 19...
calvin0517@hotmail.com
i can host pictures for you^^

KingV

I say spring for the Koni's are Teins. You really want to cheap out on mods to your new car you paid 30k for? I mean yeah, there's a point where it's like Dude, that's way too much to spend on a $30000 car, but I personally wouldn't half-ass a suspension upgrade, especially because it would adversely affect your ride.

xizor

personally I dislike the idea of the Mugens because they're almost as expensive as teins, but you can't change the ride height or shock stiffness

Tsex on 19s

So far i got 11,000 miles on the car... im not planning to slam the car with the ground control's and stock shocks, maybe only drop it 1.5inch or somthin, jus enuff to make the "gap" disappear.. im planning to ride the shocks out for a couple thousand miles and then upgrade to koni or somthing similar.. In the end, i still plan to have aftermarket shocks.. but right now money aint flowin easy as i would like. so im prolly gunna do it step by step. as for the Mugens, they are prolly gunna be way too hard to find, and get a hand on, also a lil out the budget.

Oh, and thanx for hostin the pics... u got mail.

KingV

I don't think the Mugen are that close in price to the Teins at all. It's like an easy 30% difference, a bigger difference than between Konis + eibachs and the mugen kit. The cheapest I've seen the Tein's for is like 1375 or so. If you've seen them cheaper, let me know... I might have to have them.

kangjin

I have a set of tein type FLEX on order with prostreetonline, but they're stuck in customs. it's been a little stressful since they charged me the full amount back on march 31, and they're telling me the coilovers won't clear customs until the end of may... i'll let you know what happens...

btw, they were 1198.80 shipped, i believe that price is still good.

cmf

Dude, you think that's long... Ordered my Buddy Clubs on the 13 of Feb...still waiting.....hopefully this week they'll be enroute to the house!

Dani

allrite, here are the pictures that i hold for Tsex on 19s...
sorry i am a bit late on this one^^

Dani

cmf...
beat you^^, ordered some stuff back on Jan 13, still not here yet, sigh.....

tuan209

are there any systems out there that lowers your car, but doesnt make it so stiff? i would like to know

Tsex on 19s

springs would be less stiff than coilovers.. so i heard... personally this would be my first dropped car..

cmf

I would think just the opposite...coilovers are made and designed to work together, giving you more of a stock feeling ride, vs swapping sprigs changes what the stock set-up was from the factory. I think if you changed springs and shocks, then it would be a little better, but from past experiences, the ride is much smoother with coilovers...then again, all of the ones I've had have been adjustable.........I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong....

Dani--that sucks man....what are you waiting on?

Dani

i will post up some pictures once i got them installed, hopefully by next week, before that, let's keep it secretive (dont kick me^^)

TSX Hokie

You can't have it all buddy. By definition, to keep from rubbing you have to increase the spring stiffness if you lower your car. You can have a somewhat smoother ride by increasing damping (using coilovers) with your drop. More damping resists velocity, more stiffness resists displacement. The perfect balance is difficult to achieve, which is why I am wary of slapping stiffer springs on the OEM shocks. If I did any lowering (which I probably won't), I would buy a coilover set and do it right.

tuan209

just wishful thinking....hahaha

JTso

iTrader: (2)

Sorry, I have to disagree. The better solution to keep from rubbing is to use the correct wheel/tire size and offset. Simply increasing spring rate is just a bandaid approach. Although most aftermarket lowering springs have higher than stock spring rate. The increased rate is for better handling not to prevent from rubbing.

TSX Hokie

The control arms, wheel wells and whatnot are designed to accept a certain amount of wheel travel. If you lower the car but use springs with the same or less stiffness, when you hit a bump the wheel may travel beyong the acceptable range. Stiffer springs allow you to lower the car while keeping wheel travel within the design values.

Force=kx, where k is the spring constant (stiffness) and x is the displacement. If you introduce the same force with softer suspension, you get more displacement.

JTso

iTrader: (2)

The bump stop is what keeps the suspension from going up too far, not the spring rate. The heavier spring rate will slow down the motion however. If you use the proper size wheel/tire and offset, there shouldn't be any rubbing with any part of the body or control arms. If you use springs that are too stiff to limit the travel of the suspension on a street car, the car will handle poorly due to lack of suspension travel. It means everytime the tires hit a bump, the whole car bounces up and down and causes loss of tire and pavement contact resulting poor handling. Increasing the spring rate to eliminate rubbing is the wrong way to solve the problem, but I'm sure it's been done before...

tsXgtp

You definately want stiffer springs when you lower. Imagine cutting your stock springs. You would bottom out all the time. The wheels wouldn't rub, but you would risk shooting a shock through your hood!
BTW, how do the H&R coils compare to the others in this thread?

KingV

wondering the same thing about the H&R's, they seem to be a good price.

Tsex on 19s

what is there price?

KingV

1030 at tire rack.

cmf

That's a pretty good price...I'd get those before TEIN, but I already got BuddyClubs on the way...clearing customs as we speak!

Tsex on 19s

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