StopTech replacements rotors
#1
StopTech replacements rotors
I've had my replacements on for a month or two now, several car washes. Here's what happens w/ StopTechs replacements.
As you can see, there is a nice band of rust. This does not happen on the stock rotors because of the black coating on the actual rotor surface. Now, StopTech does put the black coatings on the hat of the rotor, but not on the surface area of the rotor, so where the caliper does not allow the pad to grab a specific surface area of the rotor, rust builds up.
Here is a pic of my rears from Rotora.
As you can see, there is no rust band cause Rotora actually puts the black coating on the rotor surface, just like stock, hence a "replacement rotor".
Well, I e-mailed StopTech to ask about why they did not coat the surface and what would they do to fix it cause it looks like crap (not in those words though ).
Here is their response, copied from my e-mail.......
The band of rust you are seeing on your rotor is a result of how Acura positions the pad on the rotor face; choosing for some reason to use a pad set-up that does not cover the entire face on the rotor. If you would have ordered your front rotors from Rotura, you would see the same issue. When the rotor hat is black coated, the coating is only the hat portion, not any of the rotor face. On the rear, the brake pad covers more of the rotor face, making the band of rust less of an issue. Had you ordered rear rotors from us and front from Rotura, they would be answering your concerns. We do not put any coating on the rotor face due to some rotors being used with more than one pad set-up and running the risk of coating where the pad may touch on a different application. Also, the rotor face runs very hot near the pad and any coating would burn off.
There really is no fix, unless you wanted to try and clean and paint the band of rust with a high temp coating.
Please let me know if I can offer any further explaination.
Best Regards-
Matt Weiss
StopTech, LLC
I replied back that it has nothing to do with the pad, it's the caliper that allows a pad to grab the rotor, and that Acura and Rotora BOTH put the coating on the rotors.
Needless to say, my point is, DON"T BUY STOPTECH REPLACEMENTS unless you want your rotors to have a nice band of rust on em. It's not to say their BBK's are no good, but the replacements look like ass after a few car washes. To me it's crappy customer service as well for his reply, but I also let them know I was gonna post this on the forums and show them the response I got. Maybe that will get em to fix things or they'll start losing money. Who knows.
Sorry this is so long, but I feel less stressed now having vented to other enthusiasts.
Time to find some new rotors for the front of my car!
As you can see, there is a nice band of rust. This does not happen on the stock rotors because of the black coating on the actual rotor surface. Now, StopTech does put the black coatings on the hat of the rotor, but not on the surface area of the rotor, so where the caliper does not allow the pad to grab a specific surface area of the rotor, rust builds up.
Here is a pic of my rears from Rotora.
As you can see, there is no rust band cause Rotora actually puts the black coating on the rotor surface, just like stock, hence a "replacement rotor".
Well, I e-mailed StopTech to ask about why they did not coat the surface and what would they do to fix it cause it looks like crap (not in those words though ).
Here is their response, copied from my e-mail.......
The band of rust you are seeing on your rotor is a result of how Acura positions the pad on the rotor face; choosing for some reason to use a pad set-up that does not cover the entire face on the rotor. If you would have ordered your front rotors from Rotura, you would see the same issue. When the rotor hat is black coated, the coating is only the hat portion, not any of the rotor face. On the rear, the brake pad covers more of the rotor face, making the band of rust less of an issue. Had you ordered rear rotors from us and front from Rotura, they would be answering your concerns. We do not put any coating on the rotor face due to some rotors being used with more than one pad set-up and running the risk of coating where the pad may touch on a different application. Also, the rotor face runs very hot near the pad and any coating would burn off.
There really is no fix, unless you wanted to try and clean and paint the band of rust with a high temp coating.
Please let me know if I can offer any further explaination.
Best Regards-
Matt Weiss
StopTech, LLC
I replied back that it has nothing to do with the pad, it's the caliper that allows a pad to grab the rotor, and that Acura and Rotora BOTH put the coating on the rotors.
Needless to say, my point is, DON"T BUY STOPTECH REPLACEMENTS unless you want your rotors to have a nice band of rust on em. It's not to say their BBK's are no good, but the replacements look like ass after a few car washes. To me it's crappy customer service as well for his reply, but I also let them know I was gonna post this on the forums and show them the response I got. Maybe that will get em to fix things or they'll start losing money. Who knows.
Sorry this is so long, but I feel less stressed now having vented to other enthusiasts.
Time to find some new rotors for the front of my car!
#7
Originally Posted by tony4311
who buys brake rotors for looks?
Xizor-- I went different rotors, cause StopTech stopped making the rears (same as accord), something about a lost contract/ deal with their rotor manufacturer
Not too sure they make em yet at this time as well. Half the guys over there will sell you a set, but will call a week later to tell you they don't have em. Which happened to me twice!
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#9
Originally Posted by TSX007
Very interesting....I almost went the same route(Stoptech front/Rotora rears), but decided to go the cheaper route Rotora all around. I'll let you guys know if Rotora fronts rust the same.
Do you have the Rotora rotors already? If so, can you post a pic of the fronts for me please.
#12
Originally Posted by cmf
Do you have the Rotora rotors already? If so, can you post a pic of the fronts for me please.
#14
Thought you guys might be interested in the info I got from StopTech today:
and
We are now painting some of the replacement rotors in California and
these rotors are getting an anti-rust coating on the non painted surface as part of the process. Going forward all OE replacement rotors in our SportStop line will have the painted hat.
these rotors are getting an anti-rust coating on the non painted surface as part of the process. Going forward all OE replacement rotors in our SportStop line will have the painted hat.
For the 2004 Acura TSX, we have the front rotors in stock in drilled OR
slotted, and the slotted or drilled rears will be here in two to three
weeks. Price for the front rotors is $106 per rotor and price for the
rears is $71 per rotor.
slotted, and the slotted or drilled rears will be here in two to three
weeks. Price for the front rotors is $106 per rotor and price for the
rears is $71 per rotor.
#19
Slotted/drilled rotors will help after repeated stops. If you were to do a test with stock rotors and did 4 or 5 quick stops from 60, you would see your braking distances increase each time. With slotted/drilled rotors, that distance increase will be minimized.
You're unlikely to feel much of a difference on the street with slotted rotors but on a track or autocross the difference should be quite noticeable.
You're unlikely to feel much of a difference on the street with slotted rotors but on a track or autocross the difference should be quite noticeable.
#20
I could be wrong, but slotted rotors are designed with heat build up in mind. Where drilled are designed with cooling and better brake performance in mind. There are certain rotors/pads combo that work better when heated to correct temp.
#21
Originally Posted by DEVO
I could be wrong, but slotted rotors are designed with heat build up in mind. Where drilled are designed with cooling and better brake performance in mind. There are certain rotors/pads combo that work better when heated to correct temp.
#22
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Slotted/drilled rotors will help after repeated stops. If you were to do a test with stock rotors and did 4 or 5 quick stops from 60, you would see your braking distances increase each time.
#23
Originally Posted by e_lectro
Anything has to be better than my second set of messed up OEM rotors.
Looks like on on my second set as well. When I do have to pay to have my rotors replaced, it will definently not be with OEM's.
#24
Originally Posted by domn
Looks like on on my second set as well. When I do have to pay to have my rotors replaced, it will definently not be OEM's.
#25
Speaking of rotors, have any of you heard about these?
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15078
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15078
#26
Originally Posted by e_lectro
Speaking of rotors, have any of you heard about these?
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15078
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15078
Sounds promising, I wonder how they compare to the stoptechs? Pricing is also set to be under that of the $325 F and $275 R Mugen rotors.
The Stoptechs are $212 a pair F and R.
#28
I just got my dealer packet in the email from Racing Brake.....I am going to post up pricing soon.
I am also planning to geta pair soon for my own car to take pics and review them for us all...
I am also planning to geta pair soon for my own car to take pics and review them for us all...
#29
Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
I just got my dealer packet in the email from Racing Brake.....I am going to pot up pricing soon.
I am also planning to geta pair soon for my own car to take pics and review them for us all...
I am also planning to geta pair soon for my own car to take pics and review them for us all...
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