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Old 03-18-2006 | 08:09 PM
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Replacing Radiator Hoses...

So I'm looking through the Helm's because I'm replacing my radiator hoses tomorrow, and I see it says I have to use Honda All Season Antifreeze/Coolant Type 2 (P/N OL9999001). And I quote, "Using a non-Honda coolant can result in corrosion causing the cooling system to malfunction or fail". Is that true!?!?

On a side note: This install is gonna be a bitch, anyone done it? Any suggestions?
Old 03-18-2006 | 08:29 PM
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if I recall I told you this install was going to be a bitch. I dont know if you need there stuff or not. However have fun drainging it all. I would think if you did it carefully you could drain it into a bucket and put it all back in.
Old 03-18-2006 | 09:56 PM
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I'm curious why you would do this...
Old 03-18-2006 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Reach
I'm curious why you would do this...
Upgrading from stock.
Old 03-18-2006 | 10:12 PM
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I'm curious why you would do this...
you will soon see
Old 03-18-2006 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX.Fury
Is that true!?!?
Only to the degree that the coolant used doesn't meet Honda spec. Do you have to use Honda brand coolant? Not likely, but whatever you use needs to meet Honda's specifications - it's a question of additives. The wrong kind could corrode or cause deposits, resulting in leaks or water pump failure.
Old 03-18-2006 | 10:49 PM
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Upgrading from stock.
can't wait to see the end result.

The WRXes had a decent hp increase with this popular mod, if the TSX has the same kind of gain.....
Old 03-18-2006 | 10:56 PM
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I call BS on Honda. I do use their brake fluid and tranny fluid, but it is still an aluminum radiator. Current day radiator fluid passes the test.

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Mix with distilled water and nothing else. I think that is Honda's concern b/c their stuff is premixed if I recall.
Old 03-18-2006 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by moda_way
I call BS on Honda. I do use their brake fluid and tranny fluid, but it is still an aluminum radiator. Current day radiator fluid passes the test.

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Mix with distilled water and nothing else. I think that is Honda's concern b/c their stuff is premixed if I recall.
Hmmm yeah there is a warning not to mix the Honda stuff with water...

Anyone know where I could get Honda Coolant?
Old 03-18-2006 | 11:18 PM
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I'm curious why you would do this...
I'll show you next weekend
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Originally Posted by TSX.Fury
Hmmm yeah there is a warning not to mix the Honda stuff with water...

Anyone know where I could get Honda Coolant?
From a Acura/Honda parts dept?
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Originally Posted by TSX.Fury
Hmmm yeah there is a warning not to mix the Honda stuff with water...

Anyone know where I could get Honda Coolant?
honda dealer
Old 03-18-2006 | 11:24 PM
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http://www.mr2.com/TEXT/HondaCoolant.html

found an artical that states and says it has facts to back it up that the honda stuff is different however I am to lazy to read it all but thought I would share.
Old 03-18-2006 | 11:27 PM
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I don't get it....

you have time to change the hose but NOT the wheels>??

and... what Honda coolant?? i thought our car only uses ACURA COOLANT...and ACURA parts....you crazy people
Old 03-18-2006 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by moda_way
I call BS on Honda. I do use their brake fluid and tranny fluid, but it is still an aluminum radiator. Current day radiator fluid passes the test.

EDIT:

Mix with distilled water and nothing else. I think that is Honda's concern b/c their stuff is premixed if I recall.
No BS with the new type 2. It's long life 5 yrs 60K mile good stuff.
Old 03-18-2006 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
I don't get it....

you have time to change the hose but NOT the wheels>??

and... what Honda coolant?? i thought our car only uses ACURA COOLANT...and ACURA parts....you crazy people
oh go take you lambo and go home
Old 03-18-2006 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
oh go take you lambo and go home
Hey! I was trying 2 get Fury to put on his wheels!!! FINE!! i will take my Lambo and go pick up ANOTHER Ferrari....since I need another daily driver anyways...Lambo has too little space for my fat ass..
Old 03-18-2006 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
Hey! I was trying 2 get Fury to put on his wheels!!! FINE!! i will take my Lambo and go pick up ANOTHER Ferrari....since I need another daily driver anyways...Lambo has too little space for my fat ass..
Go get your self an AMG G Wagon then if you ass is to fat for the lambo.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
Go get your self an AMG G Wagon then if you ass is to fat for the lambo.
Wow, how do you know i am getting an AMG G wagon?? ya, I kinda need one when i go to Africa! You wouldn't BELIEVE teh size of the potholes there, need a G and AMG for the power!
Old 03-19-2006 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
I don't get it....

you have time to change the hose but NOT the wheels>??

and... what Honda coolant?? i thought our car only uses ACURA COOLANT...and ACURA parts....you crazy people
There's no such thing as Acura coolant. Our car uses Honda coolant, and Honda parts. You crazy kid.
Old 03-19-2006 | 01:36 AM
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Is there any website that you know of that we can buy the coolant from? Can we get them from a honda dealer or does it has to be an acura dealer? I don't want to drive so far to an acura dealer just to replace my coolant .
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Both Acura and Honda dealer sell the same coolant. However, the Acura dealers in my area charge a lot more than the Honda dealers.
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Originally Posted by JTso
There's no such thing as Acura coolant. Our car uses Honda coolant, and Honda parts. You crazy kid.
WWWHHHAATT?!?!??!?! There's no such things as ACURA COOLANT?? but but...our car is an ACURA!!

*if Acura was that smart to create a brand to market their car as a luxury, i would've thought they would take the Honda coolant bottle, rewrap it w/ an ACURA logo and sell it for twice as much *
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Originally Posted by moda_way
I call BS on Honda. I do use their brake fluid and tranny fluid, but it is still an aluminum radiator. Current day radiator fluid passes the test.

EDIT:

Mix with distilled water and nothing else. I think that is Honda's concern b/c their stuff is premixed if I recall.
Yes, it's premixed you're correct.
Old 03-19-2006 | 08:56 AM
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From a Acura/Honda parts dept?
Obviously

I was hoping I wouldn't have to pay stealership prices
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Originally Posted by JTso
No BS with the new type 2. It's long life 5 yrs 60K mile good stuff.
I believe you that it is a higher grade, but I've personally never seen evidence that says a high grade non-Honda coolant would do any damage at all to the cooling system.
Old 03-19-2006 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by moda_way
I believe you that it is a higher grade, but I've personally never seen evidence that says a high grade non-Honda coolant would do any damage at all to the cooling system.
I think as long as it's compatible with aluminum and other engine components, then it should be fine (no damage). However, I would drain the old stuff and refill it with the compatible coolant/anti-freeze and don't use tap water. I think Honda put out certain warning or caution messages to minimize the potential problem. A lot of people buy Prestone and mix it with tap water and damage will happen. Buying the Honda pre-mixed helps to reduce the problem.
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Well that lived up to its reputation, that was a bitch! But I think worth it when you look at the finished product...I ended up having to remove the entire radiator to get to the lower hose. Which was easier then I thought it would be, but still a bitch.

So heres the product... J's Racing Samco Sport radiator hoses:


Radiator removed:


Installed lower hose with radiator still missing:


Lower hose with radiator installed:


Upper hose installed:
Old 03-19-2006 | 01:27 PM
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Last one of my current engine bay...
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TSX.Fury, nice hoes, err. hoses

Btw, are the J's Racing Samco hoses different from ones directly from Samco?
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TSX.Fury, nice hoes, err. hoses

Btw, are the J's Racing Samco hoses different from ones directly from Samco?
Thanks

Samco doesn't make them for our car You can only get them through J's.
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ah, ic ic, thanks.
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very nice man. I may have to do them cause they look like they tie the whole engine bay together since it adds some color on the front there. gonna have to get me one of those cusco catch cans too. all in good time however there are some other mods I am going to do first.
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looks nice.
So beside the nice color this actually adds HP/performance ?
better, more efficient cooling ?
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looks nice.
So beside the nice color this actually adds HP/performance ?
better, more efficient cooling ?
maybe but if I am correct Fury did it for the looks.
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looks nice.
So beside the nice color this actually adds HP/performance ?
better, more efficient cooling ?
Quote: ...replaces the weak factory rubber hoses. All hose set are made by high quality silicon to ensure long life and decrease expansion under extreme tempuratures.
Old 03-19-2006 | 03:14 PM
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Quote: ...replaces the weak factory rubber hoses. All hose set are made by high quality silicon to ensure long life and decrease expansion under extreme tempuratures.



but on the other hand...

Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
maybe but if I am correct Fury did it for the looks.
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Originally Posted by JTso
I think as long as it's compatible with aluminum and other engine components, then it should be fine (no damage). However, I would drain the old stuff and refill it with the compatible coolant/anti-freeze and don't use tap water. I think Honda put out certain warning or caution messages to minimize the potential problem. A lot of people buy Prestone and mix it with tap water and damage will happen. Buying the Honda pre-mixed helps to reduce the problem.

I agree. Anyone who uses tap water to mix is definitely taking a huge risk, especially since destilled water is so cheap and easy to come by.

Definitely, buying the Honda stuff is probably less hassle in the end. I will since I have "contact" there and know I can get it for cost.
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How much are those Samco's hoses???

I tried to search on both yahoo and on some Subies forum on how replacing radiator hoses will gain HP/TQ, but no luck. Can someone please explain???
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Originally Posted by chuson
How much are those Samco's hoses???

I tried to search on both yahoo and on some Subies forum on how replacing radiator hoses will gain HP/TQ, but no luck. Can someone please explain???
http://www.aj-racing.com/catalog/pro...1&cat=0&page=4

$247CDN + shipping, I guess.


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