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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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Power mod advice

Of all the more initial and basic mods, which are better for increasing low end power? Which are better for high end power?

Our stock auto's lack much more on the low end obviously, and that's where I'd like to gain some power.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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boost will solve all your problems
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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Comptech Icebox gives better low end and high end power compared to the guy who did dynos of both. I think that coupled with Hondata would turn the tsx into quite a beast.

Don't forget to get new rubbers for the new power
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 01:17 AM
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injen intake or comtech icebox i recommand

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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 03:58 AM
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injen cai with hondata is my set up right now...

and the power is more than my tires can respond to for sure.

intense acceleration, mind-blowing sound when revved up and over 5k...

pulls all the way to 7600 rpm

if you have the money , definitely go for these two mods..

I also had the greddy evo 2 before the hondata, trust me, the exhaust adds a lot of sound, some torque, but not as apparent as the HONDATA...

can't say enough good things about HONDATA

almost 30 horsepower gain for 595?? (of course with I/H), it's the best bang for your buck...
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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You don't want a full CAI like the Injen if you're most worried about low end torque, which I am in my AT. Thus, I run the comptech icebox, which has been dyno'd to be a little beter down low. Its also a lot quieter than the Injen CAI at WOT, which I like.

Hondata is still the best power/performance mod available.

Also, especially if you are stock / nearly stock, consider an underdrive pulley set for good consistent gains across the rev range.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Reach
Thus, I run the comptech icebox, which has been dyno'd to be a little beter down low.

Hondata is still the best power/performance mod available.

Also, especially if you are stock / nearly stock, consider an underdrive pulley set for good consistent gains across the rev range.
I would have to agree that the comptech seems to be one of the better options for low end torque. Hondata is definitely a good investment and I would also highly recommend a crank pulley or a full pulley set. Weight reduction and extra throttle response are always a great plus
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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In order of affordability IMO
Comptech Intake
Hondata
Comptech S/C
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Get an SL65, I just saw one at the airport.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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Get an SL65, I just saw one at the airport.
screw that... get a fucking enzo!
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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one question for you tuning masters..since I'm only starting to understand true engine tuning other than I/H/E, hondata...

I have the injen (happy with it, love the sound, can live with the little torque before 3000), the hondata, all on my 2005 6mt, so my car is pretty quick now...

I definitely don't have the money to blow on a supercharger...and as far as I know, the turbo is still too expensive, and not even available...

can u guyz direct me as to what to do next??

this is gonna be a long term project, but I want a mean k24 NA engine, of course after my suspension, wheels, oem body kit

I have a few things in mind, some I don't even know what it does, but can u guyz clear it up for me?

HEADERS, PULLEY, FLYWHEEL, CLUTCH, "BORE"?? (i think that's like smoothing out the surface of the cylinders??) up pipe, down pipe

my goal is around 260 crank hp, is that even possible with these mods?

or is it better to just save all this money in a few years, and supercharge it??

thanks
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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Comptech icebox, UR pulleys, Hondata, Header will be the best power mods to get.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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dont forget RT cat.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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^ Yes, RT Cat.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bluesolara
HEADERS, PULLEY, FLYWHEEL, CLUTCH, "BORE"?? (i think that's like smoothing out the surface of the cylinders??) up pipe, down pipe
Header: an aftermarket exhaust manifold that bolts to the engine block and has tubes over the exhaust ports. The tubes are smooth and flow well, and their length is tuned to the engine's displacement and valve timing/lift to maximize scavenging. Our engine uses a HEADER (one) because it has only one exhaust manifold. V-type engines use HEADERS.

Pulleys: Also known as underdrive pulleys, they do what their name suggests: underdrive accessories. Their sizing is slightly modified so that when you replace the stock pullies with them, your alternator, AC compressor, PS pump etc. will rotate more slowly and less engine power will be used to spin them. This leaves MORE engine power available to go to the wheels. Unlike other mods, pulleys don't really "increase" power, they merely redirect some of it. Possible side effects are that your accessories will take a hit, e.g. poor power steering torque at low RPMs, battery not recharging while idling, but nobody has experienced these to my knowledge.

Flywheel: Big heavy disk of metal on the output shaft and before the clutch, always connected to the crankshaft, whose function is to keep the engine spinning during compression when no other cylinder is in a power stroke. Lightening the flywheel makes the engine rev much more easily, and like pullies, "frees up" power to go elsewhere (but only while accelerating). Expensive installation; requires transmission removal, 8+ hours of labor. Not worth it unless you've got the trans off the engine for some other reason.

Clutch: Heavier clutches engage quickly and more firmly. By limiting slip they increase the amount of power they can handle. Also expensive to install, and not worth it with the piddly amount of torque these engines produce in stock configuration.

Boring: Probably refers to "boring" the throttle body in this case. By widening the intake tract, the engine doesn't waste as much energy pulling a new charge into its cylinders. Specious results; JTso got ~10whp but Hondata and I got no appreciable difference. Worth a shot though I think.

Up/down pipe: The TSX doesn't really have either. Its exhaust piping is simple due to the lack of a turbocharger, where up/down pipes are generally found.


my goal is around 260 crank hp, is that even possible with these mods?
No, the only option is to supercharge, and then you'll be a bit over that.


edit: none of this should ever be seriously referred to as "tuning" either
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rmpage
Boring: Probably refers to "boring" the throttle body in this case. By widening the intake tract, the engine doesn't waste as much energy pulling a new charge into its cylinders. Specious results; JTso got ~10whp but Hondata and I got no appreciable difference. Worth a shot though I think.
JT got 10 whp with bored TB? is there any dyno results for that 10whp? i thought he got this one

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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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Is that the one from his thread about it? If so I was wrong.
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rmpage
Is that the one from his thread about it? If so I was wrong.
yes..
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