Lets settle this thing once and for all....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 09:35 AM
  #1  
Scottybue's Avatar
Thread Starter
the Blackura go-eth
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, NE
Question Lets settle this thing once and for all....

OK guys, I've heard about CAIs, SRIs, Iceboxes, Hondatas, Exhausts, big bores, headers, even as yet unavailable superchargers...

Now my question is:

How the hell do I get a grin factor out of my TSX in the acceleration department?

I have the A-spec and upgraded wheels for handling grins, and a comptech rear sway is on the way. Now how do I make it comparable to say... a 330i? 225 at the fly is all I want...

Any legitimate knowledge and suggestion would be greatly appreciated!!!
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 09:45 AM
  #2  
dom's Avatar
dom
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 47,710
Likes: 801
From: Toronto, Canada
You answered your own question....

CAIs, Hondatas, Exhausts, big bores, headers
will all be needed to get the grin your looking for.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 09:47 AM
  #3  
Scottybue's Avatar
Thread Starter
the Blackura go-eth
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, NE
and none of these will void warranty or compromise reliability?
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 09:53 AM
  #4  
JTso's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,285
Likes: 9
From: WA
Originally Posted by Scottybue
and none of these will void warranty or compromise reliability?
Why not take the list of parts and ask your dealer where your maintenance and service is performed? None of those part will void the "entire" warranty of the car but they can be for certain area if they are found to be the cause.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:00 AM
  #5  
Dan Martin's Avatar
Photography Nerd
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 21,489
Likes: 11
From: Toronto
If peak gains are what you're after, you'll probably be disapointed with what's currently on the market. JTso has just about every mod available and he's putting down about 187 to the wheels which is about 215 at the crank. The good thing is, the car is much quicker and more drivable because of the added torque and horsepower throughout the rev band. There's a very large gain from 5,000 rpm to redline.
Check out his most recent dyno: https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=60


It all depends on your budget, but here's a list of parts by order of gain:
AcuraZine Shift Knob $50
Hondata $600
CAI $200
Big bore throttle body ~$200 (I don't remember exactly)
DC headers $300

There are a number of other mods you can make but I don't think I've seen dynos to back up their results yet. By the sounds of things, a high-flow catalytic converter is also a good mod to free up the exhaust path.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:01 AM
  #6  
Scottybue's Avatar
Thread Starter
the Blackura go-eth
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, NE
understood. Now not to get off topic, which of the previously mentioned mod's (brand specific) would best get me to 225 without the car sounding like and obnoxious street racer?

thanks for the input Dan

still looking for more input, though... which CAI produces the most gains compared to its reliability? I want the power, but also want the car to still be bulletproof...
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:06 AM
  #7  
TinkyWinky's Avatar
TSX User
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,047
Likes: 0
This topic, in my opinion, has been beaten to death. The only thing that will give the TSX any performance comparable to the 330i (which is what you are apparently seeking) would be to add a turbo or swap in a V6.

Good luck in either case.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:10 AM
  #8  
xizor's Avatar
Bye TSX, hello domestic?
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,552
Likes: 0
From: NOVA
Originally Posted by Scottybue
Now how do I make it comparable to say... a 330i? 225 at the fly is all I want...

Any legitimate knowledge and suggestion would be greatly appreciated!!!
That is going to take some serious serious modifications (and voiding of warranties) to get 225 w/o Forced Induction.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:11 AM
  #9  
mg7726's Avatar
She said: it's GINORMOUS!
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,913
Likes: 2
From: NYC
or trade in for next years model which may be retuned by honda for 10-20hp

or wait for 2nd gen tsx, which is rumored to have a turbo (a la the scooby legacy gt)
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:13 AM
  #10  
Dan Martin's Avatar
Photography Nerd
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 21,489
Likes: 11
From: Toronto
Originally Posted by xizor
That is going to take some serious serious modifications (and voiding of warranties) to get 225 w/o Forced Induction.
Sounds like you should get in line for the Comptech supercharger. If it's installed by an Acura dealer that sells comptech parts, it won't affect your warranty. Plus they're quoting 240hp to the wheels which is somewhere around 275-280 crank.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:19 AM
  #11  
JTso's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,285
Likes: 9
From: WA
I might be getting 220 at the fly. 220 - ~15% loss = 187whp.

I wonder if the high flow cat will gain a few hp... If so, I'm up there.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:19 AM
  #12  
Scottybue's Avatar
Thread Starter
the Blackura go-eth
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, NE
anyone know when the comptech s/c comes out? been waiting for almost 6 mos... Also, who knows an Acura dealer who does comptech stuff?
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:20 AM
  #13  
Scottybue's Avatar
Thread Starter
the Blackura go-eth
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, NE
Originally Posted by JTso
I might be getting 220 at the fly. 220 - ~15% loss = 187whp.

I wonder if the high flow cat will gain a few hp... If so, I'm up there.

did the big bore do anything for ya? also what mods are you sportin'?
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:20 AM
  #14  
dom's Avatar
dom
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 47,710
Likes: 801
From: Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted by JTso
I might be getting 220 at the fly. 220 - ~15% loss = 187whp.

I wonder if the high flow cat will gain a few hp... If so, I'm up there.

You need to take your car to a track. I'd love to see the times its running.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:25 AM
  #15  
xizor's Avatar
Bye TSX, hello domestic?
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,552
Likes: 0
From: NOVA
Originally Posted by JTso
I might be getting 220 at the fly. 220 - ~15% loss = 187whp.

I wonder if the high flow cat will gain a few hp... If so, I'm up there.
I read 225 at the wheels, not fly. 225 at the crank is possible, but still requires many modifications.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:27 AM
  #16  
Scottybue's Avatar
Thread Starter
the Blackura go-eth
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, NE
"many modifications" is the question I'm looking to answer with this thread... what are you runnin' darth xizor?
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:28 AM
  #17  
GIBSON6594's Avatar
My Garage
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 13,386
Likes: 11
From: NY
Wow, your gonna spend about 6-7 K in mods if you go FI. what not just go buy a faster car?
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:30 AM
  #18  
Scottybue's Avatar
Thread Starter
the Blackura go-eth
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, NE
car is paid off, mods are cheaper than a new car payment...
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:31 AM
  #19  
Dan Martin's Avatar
Photography Nerd
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 21,489
Likes: 11
From: Toronto
Originally Posted by Scottybue
anyone know when the comptech s/c comes out? been waiting for almost 6 mos... Also, who knows an Acura dealer who does comptech stuff?
It's anyones guess when the S/C will be available. It was supposed to be out last month but I think they're still tweaking the fuel system.

According to Comptech's site, there doesn't appear to be any dealers in Nebraska but here's the list so you can find the next closest one: http://www.comptechusa.com/distributors.html
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:32 AM
  #20  
Scottybue's Avatar
Thread Starter
the Blackura go-eth
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, NE
found one in KC... damn near 2.5 hrs away...
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:47 AM
  #21  
dom's Avatar
dom
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 47,710
Likes: 801
From: Toronto, Canada
Move to civilization?

Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:52 AM
  #22  
Scottybue's Avatar
Thread Starter
the Blackura go-eth
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, NE
i know, i live in the middle of the city, and it still feels like suburbia... and i used to live in Brooklyn... damn this military gig, they never let you live anywhere cool...
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:01 AM
  #23  
xizor's Avatar
Bye TSX, hello domestic?
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,552
Likes: 0
From: NOVA
Originally Posted by Scottybue
"many modifications" is the question I'm looking to answer with this thread... what are you runnin' darth xizor?
I have CAI and Intake Manifold Gasket, pretty meager but it dynos at about ~213 flywheel. Add header, Hondata ECU, big bore TB and you'll be near jtso w/ ~220. Other than that, there's only a catback exhaust which is worth 1-2hp. Until there are new cams and a reflash for them, there isn't a whole lot more to be made NA.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:10 AM
  #24  
Scottybue's Avatar
Thread Starter
the Blackura go-eth
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, NE
Originally Posted by xizor
I have CAI and Intake Manifold Gasket, pretty meager but it dynos at about ~213 flywheel. Add header, Hondata ECU, big bore TB and you'll be near jtso w/ ~220. Other than that, there's only a catback exhaust which is worth 1-2hp. Until there are new cams and a reflash for them, there isn't a whole lot more to be made NA.

injen?
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:46 PM
  #25  
Black_6spd's Avatar
VSA Rocks
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,410
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Scottybue
OK guys, I've heard about CAIs, SRIs, Iceboxes, Hondatas, Exhausts, big bores, headers, even as yet unavailable superchargers...

Now my question is:

How the hell do I get a grin factor out of my TSX in the acceleration department?

I have the A-spec and upgraded wheels for handling grins, and a comptech rear sway is on the way. Now how do I make it comparable to say... a 330i? 225 at the fly is all I want...

Any legitimate knowledge and suggestion would be greatly appreciated!!!
Don't forget about lightweight wheels. It's not adding HP per se, but you'd be surprised how much quicker the car feels. Simply dropping 5 lbs each wheel made my Integra feel like a different car!
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:48 PM
  #26  
Scottybue's Avatar
Thread Starter
the Blackura go-eth
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, NE
true, but i wish i had thought of that before i plunked almost a grand on 18's when i bought the car...
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:06 PM
  #27  
weapon-x's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
From: S.California (Behind the Orange Curtain)
Originally Posted by Scottybue
i know, i live in the middle of the city, and it still feels like suburbia... and i used to live in Brooklyn... damn this military gig, they never let you live anywhere cool...
LOL Well the tag line they used to sell was: "Join the (insert military branch here) travel the world, meet and kill interesting people." Don't recal promises to live anywhere cool. But you haven't lived till you've been to Anniston, AL where you have to drive 50miles to find a McDonalds, and the Walmart... Excuse me.. Super Walmart is considered a legitimate source of entertainment and qualifies as a "good place to take a date".
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 03:31 PM
  #28  
ianS's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 0
From: Toronto
Originally Posted by Black_6spd
Don't forget about lightweight wheels. It's not adding HP per se, but you'd be surprised how much quicker the car feels. Simply dropping 5 lbs each wheel made my Integra feel like a different car!
should be light and smaller wheel. If a lighter but bigger wheel, the unspring weight will offset the advantage of light weight. So let's do some weight reduction like this onehttp://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=776885&page=1
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 04:19 PM
  #29  
GIBSON6594's Avatar
My Garage
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 13,386
Likes: 11
From: NY
Originally Posted by ianS
should be light and smaller wheel. If a lighter but bigger wheel, the unspring weight will offset the advantage of light weight. So let's do some weight reduction like this onehttp://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=776885&page=1
X 1,000,000
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 05:14 PM
  #30  
xizor's Avatar
Bye TSX, hello domestic?
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,552
Likes: 0
From: NOVA
Originally Posted by Scottybue
injen?
K&N
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2005 | 09:11 PM
  #31  
rmpage's Avatar
Drives With Hands
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,793
Likes: 1
From: Raleigh, NC
Of course there's always the comedy NAWZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ option.

GLYCERINE IN A BOTTLE YO IT'S SO TYTE
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2005 | 11:46 AM
  #32  
mesherm's Avatar
Cruisin'
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Suggestions ???

I just bought a new '05 6MT TSX and Im looking for suggestions on how to modify it with little cash to do so. Are there any cool exhaust mods that will boost hp? also, where can i find a CAI and how much will it cost/ boost hp?

any other suggestions as to how i can improve hp without hurting gas mileage too much and without a whole lot of $$?

THANKS!
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2005 | 12:01 PM
  #33  
JayRoam's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 465
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
I've been told of people using the TSX's block with the RSX's head. Kind of like a modern-day frankstein version of the old B18 block and B16 head. I haven't read up on it much though, but I imagine it serves the same purpose of the old frankenstein setup where you get the benefits of both a strong block mated with a high-compression head.
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2005 | 12:04 PM
  #34  
Dan Martin's Avatar
Photography Nerd
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 21,489
Likes: 11
From: Toronto
Originally Posted by mesherm
I just bought a new '05 6MT TSX and Im looking for suggestions on how to modify it with little cash to do so. Are there any cool exhaust mods that will boost hp? also, where can i find a CAI and how much will it cost/ boost hp?

any other suggestions as to how i can improve hp without hurting gas mileage too much and without a whole lot of $$?

THANKS!
Did you read the first page of this thread?

Injen, K&N, and Comptech make intakes for the TSX. The Injen and K&N are around $200 but the Comptech is a little less. The Comptech puts out around 8hp and the other two are both around 10-12hp. Contact MrHeelToe or Excelerate via our Personal Message system for part quotes.

I haven't seen any dynos for exhausts other than the Comptech dyno which wasn't very impressive. It's mostly for the look and sound.

A 4-2-1 header a better bang for your buck mod than just the exhaust but you should also look at replacing the catalytic converter with a high-flow unit at the same time.
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2005 | 11:24 PM
  #35  
peter_bigblock's Avatar
C'mon, man! Row yer own.
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 0
From: WDMIA
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Did you read the first page of this thread?

Injen, K&N, and Comptech make intakes for the TSX. The Injen and K&N are around $200 but the Comptech is a little less. The Comptech puts out around 8hp and the other two are both around 10-12hp. Contact MrHeelToe or Excelerate via our Personal Message system for part quotes.

I haven't seen any dynos for exhausts other than the Comptech dyno which wasn't very impressive. It's mostly for the look and sound.

A 4-2-1 header a better bang for your buck mod than just the exhaust but you should also look at replacing the catalytic converter with a high-flow unit at the same time.
Just out of curiosity, you wrote that the K&N (and Injen) add 10-12 hp, but K&N's site claims the Typhoon CAI adds 4.3 hp. I'm a newbie, am I missing something? Also, on CAI's, is the water-uptake issue a major hindrance? I definitely don't want to spend time reconfiguring my intake everytime it might rain or a thunderstorm pops up. That's making me lean towards the Icebox even though it sounds like the gains are lower. Thoughts? (I know, this topic has been whipped absolutely to death.)
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 01:35 AM
  #36  
JTso's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,285
Likes: 9
From: WA
Originally Posted by peter_bigblock
Just out of curiosity, you wrote that the K&N (and Injen) add 10-12 hp, but K&N's site claims the Typhoon CAI adds 4.3 hp. I'm a newbie, am I missing something? Also, on CAI's, is the water-uptake issue a major hindrance? I definitely don't want to spend time reconfiguring my intake everytime it might rain or a thunderstorm pops up. That's making me lean towards the Icebox even though it sounds like the gains are lower. Thoughts? (I know, this topic has been whipped absolutely to death.)
The 4.3 hp is measured at 5300 rpm not peak. The peak is a little higher.


Reply
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 02:23 AM
  #37  
BlackAc036's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 453
Likes: 1
From: Chicago Suburbs
This thread should help a lot, click the link on post # 1: Hondata Guide Thread
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 02:24 AM
  #38  
BlackAc036's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 453
Likes: 1
From: Chicago Suburbs
^^^ For people who want to learn how to increase gains on their TSX...
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Puma Jim
2G RDX Audio, Bluetooth, Electronics & Navigation
20
Oct 20, 2016 11:59 AM
95oRANGEcRUSH
Car Talk
35
Sep 25, 2015 12:50 PM
Brandle34
2G TL Problems & Fixes
4
Sep 23, 2015 07:20 PM
tristann616
1/2G MDX (2001-2013)
2
Sep 22, 2015 11:40 PM
iRaw
ILX Photograph Gallery
18
Sep 17, 2015 07:23 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:47 AM.