samxeyeam

Im wasnt sure if this is true or not, but I read some thread a while back and I recall someone running the Jackson Racing Supercharger for the DC5 kit on their car... I tried to search but couldnt find you... Just wondering if you can answer some questions I had...

onebadtsx

I remember seeing that as well. Good luck getting an answer though.

shmork53

their website has a basic K series kit. If you run that with a duel ecu from HONDATA, it could work. Of course you might need to do some mods to make it fit because it's not TSX specific. I haven't heard much more about a full kit yet though.

valeratj

U will need an adapter bracket to fot the supercharger itself properly and K-pro to tune it. they had the issue of air/boost leaking when tried it without any mods.

samxeyeam

Thanks all for the response but I recall the guy having the DC5 kit cuz JR has two different sets of chargers, the street and race...

OoKrnBoi0331oO

basically anything is possible now because of K-Pro. However, the only real FI option that comes complete right now for the TSX would be Comptech.

and samxeyeam... 유리 in english is Yuri!! and it's Gee gee gee gee, not 지지지지 hahaha.
지지 = dirty, but I'm guessing you knew and that it was just a play on words. regardless. 지금은 소녀시대!!! huge fan, too!

samxeyeam

I seen it "konglished" to yuri or yoori but because of the "ㅠ" I thought double "oo" was more appropriate... I wanted to add some 한글 to the sig so instead of "배이비" "지" looked better...

I dont want to go with comptechs because they are overpriced and i think the design of the JR's might be able to push out more power... Oh well I guess its going to be a learning experience...

xjohnkdoex

iTrader: (2)

heyyyyy....how are going to manage the SC?!

samxeyeam

Gonna look for an 2006...

xjohnkdoex

iTrader: (2)

good move. haha.

man, when i was buying my TSX, it was down to a super low-mileage 06 with some extra junk (spoiler, tints, lo/jack, etc...) or a brand new 07, both AT's and non-navi. the 06 had some weirdo paint damage and looked like it had sat out in the lot for a year (which i guess it did), and they were asking more that than the 07. so i bought the 07.

if i knew what i know now, the 06 would've won. even if the payments were higher. but i always wondered why that car was sent back with so little miles on it.

carmagnut

If the Jackson is not going to come as a complete kit then the other possible things you have to do to the car to get it to function properly may end up costing you even more than the cost of the CT kit. I am not sure of JR pricing but it can't be leaps and bounds lower.

samxeyeam

I am willing to take risks... I dont see it having too many fitment problems because a K20 and the K24 dimension wise isnt that big of a difference... Plus the TSX engine bay does have abit more room to play with...

Highrev1

I have fitted a JR manifold on... What do you want to know to make it work?

samxeyeam

Theres two kits for the RSX... Do I get the 02-04 one that comes with the 3.8" pulley or the 05-06 one with the 4"?? Not even sure its only the pulley difference also because they are 200 bucks in difference...

onebadtsx

This is ridiculous.

JRSC $3500
kpro $2000
Fittiment other crap $1000

$6500 vs $3800 for CTSC

Are you just trying to be different or do you want a reliable and faster car. I say get the CT SC and be done with it.

carmagnut

$3800 for the CT SC may even be alittle low. But even at the $4395 on the CT website plus install you still are under the approx $6500 mentioned above.

valeratj

I met a local dude with a turbo TSX, no BS. that thing is quick. Wanna be unique? Go turbo

carmagnut

Awesome. Is he anywhere on this forum or any other... even something like cardomain? Many would love to see his ride/specs/numbers he can attest to.

northbridge

^

samxeyeam

A reflashed CT charged TSX is not that great... A HyTech'd TSX with K-Pro puts our more HP than a reflashed CT.
I think the numbers goes like this....
CT charged Reflash TSX: 220-230whp
HyTech'd K-Pro TSX: 230-235whp

HyTech'd K-Pro CT charged TSX: 335??? Its on here somewhere... Or its on Tclub.com for sure..

samxeyeam

one more thing...

JRSC 2700
KPRO 1400 (supplying your own stock ECU)

Can change boost levels using K-Pro.

CT charger 4400

Stuck at 5psi's...

carmagnut

few things... 1) When did HyTech come into play? 2) If you have K-pro you can most likely change the boost with the CT product as well. 3) WHP is one thing. The numbers are great to boast about but someone who has done some good modding of the car basically said anything over 300 is alot for this front wheel drive application. I prefer the car to be ultra driveable vs. having the highest dyno numbers around.

samxeyeam

1) Just putting it out there
2) If you see the prices, if you get K-Pro PLUS CT thats running you over 6k instead of 4100.
3) With that setup, its still going to be driveable...
Thanks for your input anyways.

valeratj

He posted about his setup. Oh and he lives like a mile away from me. Also, there is w00ted

carmagnut

What's his screen name? I'll search his thread. Search is your friend...

I do think that alot of this stuff is moot because I don't believe anyone would do all of this supercharging or whatever without doing many if not all of the basic bolt on's first. At that point your can be at a few grand anyway depending on the companies you use. The mod itch is usually scratched progressively; not all at once. Good luck with you choice.

valeratj

Jdmcl9t

DAYTA

Sorry, but both of these posts are incorrect.

1) A manual S/Ced TSX with full bolt-ons should be hitting ~245-250whp, whereas a manual N/A HyTech TSX w/ K-Pro is putting out about 225-230whp.

2) The 338whp was put out by Doug @ Hondata (the godfather of K-Pro). However, this is a relative number as the pulls were done on Church's Dynapack dyno which typically reads 10% higher than a standard Dynojet. That means comparing apples to apples, a TSX with S/C + HyTech is hitting ~310whp on a Dynojet (I know because that's where I'm at as well).

3) TSX K-Pro is $1,395 only if you supply a 2nd ECU (from either RSX or Civic) beyond your stock ECU because the TSX design requires two separate ECUs to function: one for engine management, and one for everything else (gauges, HVAC, etc). That means you have to buy an additional ECU, and they run anywhere from $300-500. So net cost to get K-Pro will still be $1,700-1,900.

4) I don't believe K-Pro can directly adjust boost levels on its own. However, it does have an input which you can use to connect a boost controller.

5) On a S/C application, boost control is irrelevant anyway. The only way to adjust boost is to swap to a different sized blower pulley.

6) With the CT S/C kit, they provide you with all the tools you need to adjust the fuel system in order to increase flow using the stock injectors for 5psi of boost. If you plan to go above that with the JR kit, you'll need to get larger fuel injectors (~$500) and a tune ($700-1,000 depending on where you go), so you also need to factor that into the cost over the CT kit.


One thing that is nice about the JR kit (for now, anyways) is that there are some RSX guys that have managed to squeeze a tiny aftercooler into the JR manifold which apparently works well. That is my one beef with running higher boost levels - the lack of a true cooling method. I am currently running water/methanol as a chemical intercooler (and octane booster), but I'd much rather run an air-to-air setup if there was one available.



C'mon, Mr. Senfield...where's that new intake manifold???

samxeyeam

Thank you for the input above

onebadtsx

That's the price on Excelerate Performance website $3,867.60

AchcA

I think you are talking about my friend's car.
He has the DC5 JR supercharger on his TSX.

onebadtsx

Still even more ridiculous

Hytech exhaust system $2500
kpro $2000
Tune $500

$5000 DAMN!!! vs $3897

Get a dc header and exhaust for cheap and your maybe 4500. Crap its expensive to mod this car.

xjohnkdoex

iTrader: (2)

do you lose any features with those kits?

the newer jackson racing site which links to the kraftwerks kits says the k-series S/C requires removal of the a/c compressor. does that mean you lose a/c? or does another component take care of it?

carmagnut

I stand corrected. That is not a bad price. I guess since I have mine I have not been trolling the sites looking to see what they are going for. Thanks for the heads up.

Highrev1

...Acutally BoostByGear works for superchargers too now, although it can only be reduced somwhat not increased above whatever size max psi the pulley you have on the charger will produce...My buddy has been testing it and it works well.

samxeyeam

Got to pay to play

timot_one

I'll assume when you're trying to use a JRSC for a Type S. If you're looking to bolt on a K20A2 SC on to a K24A2, it's possible. You will need a Hasport Intake Adapter because the K20A2 head does not have a coolant port like the K24A2 head does. The adapter basically adds the coolant line that is normally found on the TSX's injector base. Your next big hurdle is how to get your throttle body to fit on the RSX Type S inlet on the SC. I don't believe anyone makes a TB adapter, but I could be wrong. Maybe Karcepts would be able to machine an adapter since they offer a reverse adapter (RSX Type S TB on a TSX IM). The RSX Type S TB is cable driven, so that is out of the question. Other than that, you will need to replace/extend some coolant and vacuum lines and extend a few wires on your engine harness. Depending on whether there is a clearance issue with the inlet of the PS pump and the snout of the SC, you may need to tap the other hole on your PS pump so you can flip the inlet up to allow the PS inlet hose to be routed over the belt. I've done this on a K24A4 with a Comptech RSX Type S SC, and since the motors are fairly similar, I figured I could provide a little bit of advice.

My only concern with this would be the TB. I would recommend using KPro since Hondata makes a dual ECU harness for your cars and offer an ECU reflash. I only wish they offered that for my application instead of having to use a custom harness.