moda_way

Just took off the Ingalls ETD shock for wintertime. It was getting too noisey with the cold weather. Of course it would quiet down went the engine bay got hot, but I just don't want to hear it anymore. Anyone else in the Northern side of the continent remove there's too?

lcrazyaznl

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I was thinking about it but i would only disconnect the stiffy, but the strut bar bracket is a pita!

moda_way

That's what I did. All my brackets were left in place.

godfather2

i might consider taking mine off too, but i never put it on in the first place

HoRRo

I might remove mine for winter as well, making that annoying click sound when I press/release the throttle. I noticed it only happens around -5C and colder.

xjohnkdoex

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i sold mine!

LukeaTron

I used to take the one off I had on my civic for the winter because it would turn every seat in the car into a vibrating massage chair for the first 20 to 30 minutes the car ran. The smoothness of the TSX is on a whole different planet than the civic though.

WlcTL

just went and did that same because i too have noticed the annoyance that came with the winter time. took less than 5 mins to remove 2 bolts i also noticed that the brake lines have been scraped up and the unit itself is very loose due to the contact it makes with the etd. may put it back on during summertime not sure yet.

chuson

Hey Horro, when you said it makes a click sounds, does it make a "Klock" sound once you press on the throttle??

I have that "Klock" sound too and first I thought it was coming from the wheel, but the sound only appears when you step hard on the gas abruptly.

lcrazyaznl

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I get the loud klunk sound when i start sometimes.

WlcTL

yes i have that too but only when its cold out and the engine has just started.

chuson

Exactly, it just happened recently and I kept thinking it's my front calipers hitting my winter rims **(Sold my 16" steelies for 16" OEM Honda Accord Alloy rims, and the clearance is like.... 2mm), but now everyone confirmed it was the Ingalls ETD.

HoRRo

Yeah, that's the sound, distinctly coming from front driver side.

chuson

YUP.

So I guess it's confirm that the ETD will MAKE a "KLOCK" noise when you press on the throttle.

But I wonder why does the noise came from driver side and not passenger side, since the ETD is on the passenger side...

moda_way

Mine sounds right in the middle and think about where the bracket is tied to... the OEM tower bar ties into the center of the engine bay near the fire wall.


Vibrations from the ETD hit the chassis bracket and resonate through the strut bar and to the firewall.

HoRRo

Wasn't paying attention to what I was typing. I meant "passenger" side.

nycxtsx05

so this is normal and i should take my etd off i just got a new transmission from the dealer and decided to put the etd on right after and its been annoying as hell i was thinking that something went wrong with the installation every time i hit the gas it doesnt sound so good for my engine with aloud clickin sound and wen im in drive hittin the brakes my car vibrates like crazy coming from the passenger side also after i got the new transmission but b4 i put in the etd i realized there was a clicking sound from within the gauges wen im in reverse or braking on drive at around 15 mphs and down to 5 mph the same clicking noise comes about so i told the dealer and they said to come back in today but while i was driving tonight i realized that the clicking is not as ez to pinpoint anymore because of the etd vibrations should i take of the etd b4 i go into the dealer and am i supposed to keep it off during winter ?? im thinking that something went wrong with the installation is it normally supposed to vibrate like that ?? and what difference exactly am i supposed to feel with the etd on ?? sorry first mod that went into the engine bay ever in my life lol....

moda_way

you can check the ETD thread for the specifics, but let's just say it helps to minimize the torque loss of the motor on the motor mounts putting it back to the wheels. Take off the shock to verify that other issues are un/related to your tranny repair.

nycxtsx05

ok so i took a look after lookin on the some other threads and found the thread that jtso did to minimize rattled printed out the page den went out to look at it i realized the mechanic put the etd the completely wrong way ~! wow i dont blame him tho i kinda forced him to do it for me wen he was realli bz so i feel kinda bad lol but i just took it off and went to the dealership for the clicking noise they fixed the problem now my car sounds perfect just like new so now .. am i supposed to keep the etd off for winter time ??? cause im bout to go back to the mechanic right now and get it back on properly this time

WlcTL

wait...you put too it off why cant you put it back on yourself and save some cash...unless you make him do it for free

LukeaTron

Holy crap dude, are you submitting these posts via cell phone or what? That makes my brain hurt.

/offtopic

nycxtsx05

yea hes been doin it for free
or else i woulda ended up buyin all the tools but should i take it off for winter time ?

LukeaTron

All the tools? You mean a ratchet and a few sockets?

:theghey:

nycxtsx05

lol yes, and thanks for makin me feel stupid for asking with much detail and if you have to bust my balls yes sometimes i submit posts using my iphone

LukeaTron

Haha. Cartman's voice just popped in my head with the 'busting my balls' bit.

I guess your total lack of punctuation, capitalization or any attempt at grammar or spelling could be somewhat allayed by the fact you're using a phone. Doesn't that thing have a full keyboard though? I'm just asking for a period here or there so your stream of consciousness is a little more decipherable. It's a pain in the ass when I have to reread a post 3 times just to figure out what some one is asking.

But yeah, the ETD is like a 5 minute job involving a ratchet and box end wrench to swap in or out.

HoRRo

Just to add a bit more clarification. It's only a 5 minute job to remove/install the damper unit. The brackets are not as easy.

peter_bigblock

I took mine out this fall, the vibration and noises were driving me nuts and I didn't really notice a lot of benefit from the ETD. I'm going to experiment with some grommet/washer/isolator combinations to see if I can come up with a livable solution. The buzziness was just too much for me and spoiled the NVH bliss of the TSX. I haven't had it on during the winter but can imagine what 30-40 degrees colder would do...

Redfish

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I just installed mine last week, definitely noticeable vibration...especially on the colder days.

However, yesterday, I adjusted it to the firmest setting, 10mm and it seems to actually be little quieter.

DiaBando

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Does the Stiffy do what it is suppose to do; in moderate weather? I've been considering this mod for some time along with the P2R.

moda_way

Yeah, it does its job. The issue is just that the resonance it a bit much in the cold of winter. I would be willing to part with mine if interested. It isn't that I don't like it or that it doesn't do anything, I just enjoyed it for one summer and never put it back on. So let me know if you or anyone for that matter is interested in it. It is in perfect condition.

PrecyseStylez

It sounds alil like an axle thats about to break... like a broke cv joint

DiaBando

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Thanks, Moda. Its getting a little tight around the strut tower with my Neuspeed bar in place. I'll check back with you 'down the road'.

moda_way

Nope. Easy test is to take off the ETD, which in my case solved the resonance issue. Again, was only an issue in the wintertime.

stillhere153

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so is it on cold starts and idle? or while driving... I would like to do this mod but just curious...

moda_way

It transmits vibrations to the firewall at idle or running. Think about it, you are tying your motor vibrations to the top of your shock mount which is tied into your firewall and thus the cabin. It isn't annoying to me, but look at what I have on my car... just one more noise added to the others.

JTso

iTrader: (2)

Does the Ingalls ETD use hard poly bushings or softer rubber bushings? Has anyone taken one apart to verify?

moda_way

I thought someone did say they were poly, but I haven't/won't take mine apart since I'm looking to sell.

sk1001

you guys reckon getting an ETD is worth the money? How bad are the vibrations in summer?

moda_way

Its fine in the summer.

LucasEV

Do you notice any difference in performance with the ETD installed? What is the advantage of having one?