I finally found them...rear bracing!!!

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Old 03-16-2007 | 04:52 PM
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I finally found them...rear bracing!!!

...now the next step is to figure out how to get them.

I was searching for rear strut tower bars for our car and came across this Japanese site called TEAM KUNIMITSU. I guess they're a pretty reputable company since they make parts for the JGTC NSX.

I was looking through their site and I couldn't believe what I saw among other notable products. A 4-point trunk brace and a rear bumper brace (which I think replaces the stock one). These should help reduce any chassis flex in the rear and be a close alternative to the impossible to find rear strut tower bar.

Well enough reading...time for some links:

Homepage:
http://www.9231.com/index.html

TEAM KUNIMITSU Accord Euro-R Real Sport:
http://www.9231.com/products/catalog/pdf/euro_r.pdf

TEAM KUNIMITSU Brace Info:
http://www.9231.com/products/catalog...ccordhokyo.pdf
Old 03-16-2007 | 05:00 PM
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hey, that's pretty cool. wonder how much they cost.
Old 03-16-2007 | 05:03 PM
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Old 03-16-2007 | 05:30 PM
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good job finding this!
Old 03-16-2007 | 05:42 PM
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The rear brace is not exactly a strut tower brace. It's more like a lower chassis brace but mounted in the trunk.
Old 03-16-2007 | 05:53 PM
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nice find. I will be finding someone to order me that trunk brace.
Old 03-16-2007 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
nice find. I will be finding someone to order me that trunk brace.
You better not forget about us once you find a source for these
Old 03-16-2007 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX 3Pedal
You better not forget about us once you find a source for these
I wont. I hope to have an answer by the end of next week actually. I already sent out an email to 3 different places I get parts from.
Old 03-16-2007 | 11:08 PM
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these would definately help in the autocrossing I plan to be doing
Old 03-16-2007 | 11:33 PM
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Yes, please let us know, I sent out a couple e-mails, too. Definately going to get one of these one way or another.
Old 03-17-2007 | 01:43 AM
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www.japanparts.com can supply it.
Old 03-17-2007 | 01:53 AM
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www.japanparts.com can supply it.
ehhh I guess but there are a lot more places I trust before them and the last time I got a quote from them it was super super high compared to everywhere else.
Old 03-17-2007 | 03:16 PM
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guys got some not so good news today. The rear trunk brace I was quoted $625 for it. Gonna wait to see if I hear anything less form other places.
Old 03-17-2007 | 04:55 PM
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Well, it retails for ¥48000 ($410) on their pdf - so shipping and import duties making $625 could be fine. Could also be ripping the arse out of it.
The thing only weighs 3kg, so it can't be THAT much to ship on a 5-10 days timeframe.
Old 03-17-2007 | 05:18 PM
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Well, it retails for ¥48000 ($410) on their pdf - so shipping and import duties making $625 could be fine. Could also be ripping the arse out of it.
The thing only weighs 3kg, so it can't be THAT much to ship on a 5-10 days timeframe.
thats what I was thinking. I mean if it retails for 410 then i doubt its costing more than like 325 or 350. If I can talk them down to like 500 then I might order it.
Old 03-17-2007 | 05:35 PM
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30% trade margin would seem appropriate - so that's $330 before the extras.
I can't imagine shipping would be any more than $60.
Just checked - sending to Japan would be $43, so if we assumed Japanese Post being similar cost, then $500 should be close to the mark.
Old 03-18-2007 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
thats what I was thinking. I mean if it retails for 410 then i doubt its costing more than like 325 or 350. If I can talk them down to like 500 then I might order it.
Talk them into a group buy price
Old 03-18-2007 | 12:34 AM
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5zigen offer rear bracings too
http://translate.google.com/translat...ial%26hs%3DyU7
http://www.5zigen.co.jp/product/pror...bar/index.html
Old 03-18-2007 | 01:39 AM
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hmmm I would love to see them all installed. very interested in the rear floor bar and the rear lower bar.
Old 03-18-2007 | 06:58 AM
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Rear arm bar yes, but the floor bar in a 4 door? Not my cup of tea, tbh.
Old 03-18-2007 | 07:18 AM
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what does it mean when they say sale schedule in the price section?
Old 03-18-2007 | 07:25 AM
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Hey colt, sorry I was busy lately man, I couldn't answer your last message.

I can help you get those braces if you want. I already asked a shop that I am very close with. But there are other otpions as well, such as ALEX lower arm brace and X brace. Many options out there in Japan really
Old 03-18-2007 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HaPPy jU1cE
what does it mean when they say sale schedule in the price section?
I suspect it's Japenglish for "TBC" (to be confirmed) or "in development".
Old 03-18-2007 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PJS
Rear arm bar yes, but the floor bar in a 4 door? Not my cup of tea, tbh.
for a daily driver I can understand. I am building a car I only drive in the summer and that I never have anyone in the rear of the car so it doesnt really matter.
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Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
Hey colt, sorry I was busy lately man, I couldn't answer your last message.

I can help you get those braces if you want. I already asked a shop that I am very close with. But there are other otpions as well, such as ALEX lower arm brace and X brace. Many options out there in Japan really
yeah let me know when you are on next cause I want to figure out what all is available and get a couple of them.
Old 03-18-2007 | 02:13 PM
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pretty cool bars, but $600 for that piece of metal? other than bragging rights, it probably wont have much impact on the car.

anyone notice the custom bumper on that Euro-R?
Old 03-18-2007 | 02:18 PM
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anyone notice the custom bumper on that Euro-R?
Old 03-18-2007 | 03:03 PM
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Please let me know, too. Would really appreciate it.

Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
yeah let me know when you are on next cause I want to figure out what all is available and get a couple of them.
Old 03-18-2007 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
for a daily driver I can understand. I am building a car I only drive in the summer and that I never have anyone in the rear of the car so it doesnt really matter.
Fairy nuff, but even so - it doesn't look terribly appealing.
Under the carpet and out of sight, then yes, or perhaps a nice flat section of Kevlar/CF (Kev to match the Ivory interior - CF to contrast it)
Or just paint the damn thing to match the carpet as best it can.
Old 03-18-2007 | 07:13 PM
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Fairy nuff, but even so - it doesn't look terribly appealing.
Under the carpet and out of sight, then yes, or perhaps a nice flat section of Kevlar/CF (Kev to match the Ivory interior - CF to contrast it)
Or just paint the damn thing to match the carpet as best it can.
Its a show car I want it visible. I would probably polish it or get it chromed.
Old 03-18-2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
Its a show car I want it visible. I would probably polish it or get it chromed.
From the picture in the url linked, it already is chromed/polished. That's what I didn't like about it.
Showcar or not, not everything has to be high profile/bling/in your face. Subtleties count as well.
But hey, each to their own and all that.
Old 03-18-2007 | 09:13 PM
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I had a rear floor bar like that on my RSX, sold by Do-Luck but built by Carbing (I believe).

It actually stiffened up the car nicely....before install, the doors would bind a bit when the car was jacked up. After install, they didn't. That said, it was chromed, and I hated how it looked. Pretty ricey, I thought at the time, like an APC or Aerospeed mod. Anyway, I covered mine in black roll bar padding to make it less visible. With the roll bar padding, it blended into the carpet pretty well. If I did it over again, I might have had it powdercoated black instead, who knows.

The TSX is signifacntly stiffer than the RSX, so I'm not sure how much difference it would make in the TSX. The RSX also lacked the rear "hump," which I believe made that area of the car considerably weaker than the TSX. If you really don't care about your rear seat, a 4-pt roll bar might be a nicer, more "serious" looking mod.
Old 03-18-2007 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffbatt
If you really don't care about your rear seat, a 4-pt roll bar might be a nicer, more "serious" looking mod.
I keep calling for cusco to make a cage for the euro r cause if they do the moment I find out about it I will order it.
Old 03-18-2007 | 10:40 PM
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Yeah, a cusco roll bar would be cool.

One other thing I'm wondering about the floor bar for the Euro-R vs. the TSX...on the RSX, either end of the floor bar tied into the lower/outer seatbelt mount for each front seat. On my TSX (a 2006), the front passenger seat seatbelt mounts to the seat, not the frame of the car. I don't know whether or not there is a mounting hole behind the carpet or not.

Also, in order to do a clean/professional looking install with the floor bar, you really should cut your carpet so that the endplates are hidden. Looks really lame with the endplates pressing again the carpet. Cutting holes in the carpet oviously isn't hard, but some people might not want to really do that.

Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
I keep calling for cusco to make a cage for the euro r cause if they do the moment I find out about it I will order it.
Old 03-18-2007 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffbatt
The TSX is signifacntly stiffer than the RSX, so I'm not sure how much difference it would make in the TSX. The RSX also lacked the rear "hump," which I believe made that area of the car considerably weaker than the TSX. If you really don't care about your rear seat, a 4-pt roll bar might be a nicer, more "serious" looking mod.
its the fact that the RSX is a hatch and lacks the side of side rigidity that comes from a sedan.

Originally Posted by jeffbatt
On my TSX (a 2006), the front passenger seat seatbelt mounts to the seat, not the frame of the car. I don't know whether or not there is a mounting hole behind the carpet or not.
when I installed harnesses in the front seats of my 04, the front belt connects to the frame, not the seat?
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Anyone notice there's already a cross brace under the rear seat bottom? No bling factor though...
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Anyone notice there's already a cross brace under the rear seat bottom? No bling factor though...
yeah I have noticed that. hoping for pictures soon of all the 5zigen bars though. maybe they will have a little bling/show factor to them.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
I keep calling for cusco to make a cage for the euro r cause if they do the moment I find out about it I will order it.
what are you talking about?? Cusco DO make a roll cage for the Euro R. It's been out for like the longest time! Come on man, how JDM are you?? hahhaa
Old 03-19-2007 | 03:23 AM
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Damn 600$????
For 600$ I'd rather have Spoon UCAs. :P
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Originally Posted by PJS
I suspect it's Japenglish for "TBC" (to be confirmed) or "in development".
so most of those parts havent even been made yet? pillar bar and the rear lower arm bar from 5zigen looks pretty tight...



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