Got my 5AT Hondata reflashed!
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Got my 5AT Hondata reflashed!
Hey everyone, I just got my 5AT TSX reflashed. I got it done by Kevin at Epic Motoring in Torrance, very nice people, they even squeezed their schedule to make room for my reflash at the last minute!! I highly suggest getting your car reflashed at Epic Motoring because they are VERY CLOSE to Hondata which is where everyone sends your ECU to get reflashed. They can also do next day shipping if you ship your ECU to them. They reflashed my car in less than 2 hours, and plus they gave me free Hondata decals.
All I have to say about the Hondata reflash is that it makes the car into a different monster... It pulls so much harder now!! Its a complete different car, I'm loving it... Right now I only have the Injen CAI but I plan to install Comptech Headers and Exhaust soon... My goal is to have the fastest 5AT on here
. But yeah Hondata should be the first mod for your TSX! It totally changes the attitude and performance of the car. My car is so much more responsive now, THANKS HONDATA!
You can contact Epic Motorsports at 1-310-787-1562, ask for Kevin.
If you're in So. Cal, Epic Motorsports located is at:
20926 Normandie Ave.
Torrance, CA 90502
tell them Curtis sent you!
All I have to say about the Hondata reflash is that it makes the car into a different monster... It pulls so much harder now!! Its a complete different car, I'm loving it... Right now I only have the Injen CAI but I plan to install Comptech Headers and Exhaust soon... My goal is to have the fastest 5AT on here
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You can contact Epic Motorsports at 1-310-787-1562, ask for Kevin.
If you're in So. Cal, Epic Motorsports located is at:
20926 Normandie Ave.
Torrance, CA 90502
tell them Curtis sent you!
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Originally Posted by domn
Damn, thats not what I wanted to hear.
Now I may have to buy it![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
Now I may have to buy it
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Same here, just a little worried about possible warranty issues.
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Yes, but you can utilize the power more efficiently in SS though, you can take it all the way to 7600 in SS. But in normal driving the power and throttle response difference is there, whether if in D or SS. I shall get a dyno done in the future at Church's Automotive Testing.
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Originally Posted by wsklar
Same here, just a little worried about possible warranty issues.
Don't worry about it.
I still can't decide if I really need it
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Originally Posted by drkangel348
Believe me... its worth it! I am very satisfied with the performance of the TSX now. Hondata has been the best bang for buck mod I have ever experienced.
Shut up !!
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So where do you feel most of the power gain? at 6K like dyno's suggest? How different is the car at 6K?
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It starts to surge around 3000rpm.... then it flys after 5000 all the way up to redline (7600). The vtec crossover isn't as linear as stock, its more aggresive with Hondata, you can feel it kick in at 5000 rpm.
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Originally Posted by tnl_tsx
Does it pull hard in both SS and auto mode? POst a dyno if can please
Dyno form church here: http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...&postcount=148
this is a very green auto. More power would be expected with more than 200 miles on the odo.
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Originally Posted by TinkySD
Dyno form church here: http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...&postcount=148
this is a very green auto. More power would be expected with more than 200 miles on the odo.
this is a very green auto. More power would be expected with more than 200 miles on the odo.
26+ lb-ft at 6000RPM. I
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Covinced yet Tinky?
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Originally Posted by fdl
There is always a downside.
- Possible engine problems?
- Reduced MPG?
- More speeding tickets
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fdl, you've been very mum on the Hondata subject. Any plans or has the future wife
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Originally Posted by domn
- Possible engine problems?
- Reduced MPG?
- More speeding tickets![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
fdl, you've been very mum on the Hondata subject. Any plans or has the future wife
you from spending on the car what with the wedding and all.
- Reduced MPG?
- More speeding tickets
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fdl, you've been very mum on the Hondata subject. Any plans or has the future wife
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I may wait until next summer when my bumper-to-bumper warranty is up.
And ya, by downside I mean mpg and engine problems. They didnt magically create this power so there has to be a trade off. Maybe the engine runs leaner and hotter
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Originally Posted by fdl
I'm considering it, but there are a bunch of other "toys" i am thinking of spending money on. I have too many hobbies right now
I may wait until next summer when my bumper-to-bumper warranty is up.
And ya, by downside I mean mpg and engine problems. They didnt magically create this power so there has to be a trade off. Maybe the engine runs leaner and hotter
. And I think we have already confirmed that mpg will suffer. Personally, the mpg doesnt concern me at all, but just making a point![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I may wait until next summer when my bumper-to-bumper warranty is up.
And ya, by downside I mean mpg and engine problems. They didnt magically create this power so there has to be a trade off. Maybe the engine runs leaner and hotter
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Wait til your married with a house. Your "hobbies" will consist of buying a shed and landscaping. Those are my Summer of 05 hobbies.
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Originally Posted by domn
Wait til your married with a house. Your "hobbies" will consist of buying a shed and landscaping. Those are my Summer of 05 hobbies. ![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
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Originally Posted by fdl
I'm considering it, but there are a bunch of other "toys" i am thinking of spending money on. I have too many hobbies right now
I may wait until next summer when my bumper-to-bumper warranty is up.
And ya, by downside I mean mpg and engine problems. They didnt magically create this power so there has to be a trade off. Maybe the engine runs leaner and hotter
. And I think we have already confirmed that mpg will suffer. Personally, the mpg doesnt concern me at all, but just making a point![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I may wait until next summer when my bumper-to-bumper warranty is up.
And ya, by downside I mean mpg and engine problems. They didnt magically create this power so there has to be a trade off. Maybe the engine runs leaner and hotter
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i found VWONG's post with his stock air/fuel ratio graph for the most part it looks like we don't have to worry about running lean, cept for the 4K drop. I'm sure Hondata took all this into consideration...
![](http://www.vwong.org/images/tsx/cl9%20af-ratio.jpg)
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Originally Posted by fdl
They didnt magically create this power so there has to be a trade off. Maybe the engine runs leaner and hotter
. And I think we have already confirmed that mpg will suffer. Personally, the mpg doesnt concern me at all, but just making a point![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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The only reason fuel economy suffers is due to the driver. We did not modify part throttle fueling.
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Originally Posted by hondata
Actually we added fuel at the top end to cater for people who will install a header. With a header it will run the same air fuel ratios as stock. Without, a little richer - but only above 5500 rpm.
The only reason fuel economy suffers is due to the driver. We did not modify part throttle fueling.
The only reason fuel economy suffers is due to the driver. We did not modify part throttle fueling.
good to know! thanks for the update
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Originally Posted by drkangel348
It starts to surge around 3000rpm.... then it flys after 5000 all the way up to redline (7600). The vtec crossover isn't as linear as stock, its more aggresive with Hondata, you can feel it kick in at 5000 rpm.
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Originally Posted by JTso
It's interesting that you felt the vtec crossover is less linear with the Hondata. Because according to the other people and various dynos results, you can barely feel the vtec crossover after the reflash. I'm kind of curious to see you dyno result...
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Originally Posted by PrecyseStylez
You could always go back to stock for $50 to flash it back to stock form...just a thought
$50 to revert back to stock? Thatz not bad at all.
Just grabbed my Valentine1, I'm outta here!~
I'll let you guys know my impressions of the Hondata later.
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Johnny, I heard that the 5AT people have been able to feel the Vtec crossover, while it has not been as noticeable to the 6MTers. I will let you know if I can feel it.
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Is that what Hondata told you?
$50 to revert back to stock? Thatz not bad at all.
Just grabbed my Valentine1, I'm outta here!~
I'll let you guys know my impressions of the Hondata later.
$50 to revert back to stock? Thatz not bad at all.
Just grabbed my Valentine1, I'm outta here!~
I'll let you guys know my impressions of the Hondata later.
Hurry Up !!!!