Finally, A Tsx Motor With Turbo
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Finally, A Tsx Motor With Turbo
noob here to this forum but not a noob in essence. i have an rsx type s with a stage 2 cybernation turbo kit on it. i was running 20 psi of boost and my car was dynoeing in the 380 whp range. well i'm sad to say that i have recently blew the head to shreds when i mis-shifted. i found a good deal on a 2005 tsx motor and the cost to fix the head on my rsx was more expensive than the motor i purchased. i will be putting a tsx motor in my car and transferring the turbo kit as well. i will not be running 20psi of boost though, because i will be on stock internals. i will probably be running around 10psi for now. the reason i am on here is because i would like to learn a little more about the tsx motor and to see what kind of performance upgrades are out i.e. pistons, rods, valves, valve springs, etc. if anyone can provide some insight i would greatly appreciate it. i haven't seen much of anything though on the net, but maybe im just not looking hard enough. once i get this motor installed, i'll post the dyno results once its tuned with k-pro.
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Originally Posted by precise rsx-s
noob here to this forum but not a noob in essence. i have an rsx type s with a stage 2 cybernation turbo kit on it. i was running 20 psi of boost and my car was dynoeing in the 380 whp range. well i'm sad to say that i have recently blew the head to shreds when i mis-shifted. i found a good deal on a 2005 tsx motor and the cost to fix the head on my rsx was more expensive than the motor i purchased. i will be putting a tsx motor in my car and transferring the turbo kit as well. i will not be running 20psi of boost though, because i will be on stock internals. i will probably be running around 10psi for now. the reason i am on here is because i would like to learn a little more about the tsx motor and to see what kind of performance upgrades are out i.e. pistons, rods, valves, valve springs, etc. if anyone can provide some insight i would greatly appreciate it. i haven't seen much of anything though on the net, but maybe im just not looking hard enough. once i get this motor installed, i'll post the dyno results once its tuned with k-pro.
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check clubrsx there is at least 1 guy running a tsx in an rsx and there could be more. sincce u have k-pro i think that you will be able to use the turbo, but i wouldn't think 10psi was safe, cause noone that i know of has run it, u may be fine, or you may blow up. think there are pistons out je comes to mind, but not sure if they have them or what company that was, as far as sleaves aem i believe has some. and check kingmoporsports..com on retainers and valve springs..... hope that helped
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Originally Posted by precise rsx-s
noob here to this forum but not a noob in essence. i have an rsx type s with a stage 2 cybernation turbo kit on it. i was running 20 psi of boost and my car was dynoeing in the 380 whp range. well i'm sad to say that i have recently blew the head to shreds when i mis-shifted. i found a good deal on a 2005 tsx motor and the cost to fix the head on my rsx was more expensive than the motor i purchased. i will be putting a tsx motor in my car and transferring the turbo kit as well. i will not be running 20psi of boost though, because i will be on stock internals. i will probably be running around 10psi for now. the reason i am on here is because i would like to learn a little more about the tsx motor and to see what kind of performance upgrades are out i.e. pistons, rods, valves, valve springs, etc. if anyone can provide some insight i would greatly appreciate it. i haven't seen much of anything though on the net, but maybe im just not looking hard enough. once i get this motor installed, i'll post the dyno results once its tuned with k-pro.
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Originally Posted by xizor
not a whole lot has been looked into for building up a k24 on here, b/c well, no one has done it. the head of the tsx and rsx-s motors are similar, if not the same, and you should be able to use parts... but I don't know all the internals of an engine.
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Originally Posted by biker
If one managed to blow one engine due to abuse, can a second be far behind?
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Originally Posted by NightHawk CL9
check clubrsx there is at least 1 guy running a tsx in an rsx and there could be more. sincce u have k-pro i think that you will be able to use the turbo, but i wouldn't think 10psi was safe, cause noone that i know of has run it, u may be fine, or you may blow up. think there are pistons out je comes to mind, but not sure if they have them or what company that was, as far as sleaves aem i believe has some. and check kingmoporsports..com on retainers and valve springs..... hope that helped
oh yeah, and as far as the guy "running the tsx in an rsx"...that guy has a base model rsx and he just used the tsx head and modified everything else himself. that guy is pretty intelligent. he fabricates his own equipment and materials. he is strictly na though, but i at least got his input to help make this tsx motor work.
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Originally Posted by sauceman
Make sure you don't rev past it's redline at 10 PSI with stock internals
K24A2 redline = 7100rpm.
K24A2 redline = 7100rpm.
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kingmotorsports has skunk2 valve springs and retainers and i think camshafts. spoke with a guy over at jepistons.com named matt at ext 248 and he said that there are no pistons out yet for the tsx motor and that he would have to custom make some. he said that it would cost about $660. this is starting to be depressing.
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Originally Posted by precise rsx-s
kingmotorsports has skunk2 valve springs and retainers and i think camshafts. spoke with a guy over at jepistons.com named matt at ext 248 and he said that there are no pistons out yet for the tsx motor and that he would have to custom make some. he said that it would cost about $660. this is starting to be depressing.
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Originally Posted by PrecyseStylez
Why didnt you just get another K20?? makes more sense
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whoa whoa, i'm a real noob here, how the hell did you blow your engine when you "mis-shifted" ? can somebody explain to me what exactly that means and how that happened?
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whoa whoa, i'm a real noob here, how the hell did you blow your engine when you "mis-shifted" ? can somebody explain to me what exactly that means and how that happened?
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ok i have an update on what i've found so far. i spoke with a rep over at crower and he said that he could custom fabricate the pistons for 600 and the rods for 750 (talk about steep). he also said that crower is coming out with cams in about 2 months.
I also have a question. i went to icbmotorsport.com and found some items for sale for the honda accord euro-r which i already know is basically the tsx. my question is...when i visited the site they had euro-r parts and prelude parts together. prelude is h22 isn't it? are their some similarities between the 2 cars or am i just a dumbass? well anyway, just thought that was kind of odd.
I also have a question. i went to icbmotorsport.com and found some items for sale for the honda accord euro-r which i already know is basically the tsx. my question is...when i visited the site they had euro-r parts and prelude parts together. prelude is h22 isn't it? are their some similarities between the 2 cars or am i just a dumbass? well anyway, just thought that was kind of odd.
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Originally Posted by sauceman
6th gen of Euro-R had H22A7 I believe. The engine was pretty similar to that of the prelude type SH. It pulled 12 or 16 more horses though.
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Nope, because that was on the previous generation of euro-r's. Since 2003, they have changed both chassis and engine series. The 7th gen Euro-r is a CL7 with a K20A. (same engine as DC5R)
Very few, if any parts are interchangeable.
Very few, if any parts are interchangeable.
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10 psi??? Its doable but I would stick to about 8 to be safe. That CR is high man 10.5:1. Good luck to you with your project. I have everything I need to turbo my car except a K pro. And I am not going to try a custom kit without a Kpro. So hopefully soon Hondata will come out with the K pro so I can start building my motor. Keep us updated man.
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Originally Posted by Stokeless_TSX
10 psi??? Its doable but I would stick to about 8 to be safe. That CR is high man 10.5:1. Good luck to you with your project. I have everything I need to turbo my car except a K pro. And I am not going to try a custom kit without a Kpro. So hopefully soon Hondata will come out with the K pro so I can start building my motor. Keep us updated man.
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What boost controller are you going to run? I would stick with Greddy Profec B. I think it was Sport compact car did a test on a bunch of them. All of them spiked over what you would set it at EXCEPT for the Greddy. So stay away from HKS and Blitz. They cost more anyway.
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Originally Posted by Stokeless_TSX
What boost controller are you going to run? I would stick with Greddy Profec B. I think it was Sport compact car did a test on a bunch of them. All of them spiked over what you would set it at EXCEPT for the Greddy. So stay away from HKS and Blitz. They cost more anyway.
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Originally Posted by rmpage
Minor tangent, but why do you guys think this is? Because the K series is still relatively new? Or because the TSX is more of a luxury car and has less of a user base/market for such ventures? Only two reasons I can think of.
People still have warranties out on their cars... once that time frame passes where 20k+ users pass 50k miles, I'm sure some aftermarket will come out to appeal to those who aren't worried about breaking their cars. I think that's one reason that makes sense.
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my tsx motor just came in...yay! i wish i could just snap my fingers and the motor is installed and running. i'll keep everyone posted once i get started on this project.
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Originally Posted by precise rsx-s
i call it "mis-shift" because i was going about 70 - 75mph and an rx-7 pulls next to me to race. i tried to downshift to 4th but due to my stupidity and clumsiness i went to 2nd. needless to say, rev limit had a new meaning that night. the harmonious sound of clump, clump, clump filled my ears with despair. thank god for tow trucks.
And I hope before anyone tries this turbo set up on their TSX, they will wait for the guy who blew up his last engine with it to test it first.
Good luck! If it doesn't work......third time is a charm!
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Originally Posted by CJams
And you want to put the turbo on the new engine???
And I hope before anyone tries this turbo set up on their TSX, they will wait for the guy who blew up his last engine with it to test it first.
Good luck! If it doesn't work......third time is a charm!
And I hope before anyone tries this turbo set up on their TSX, they will wait for the guy who blew up his last engine with it to test it first.
Good luck! If it doesn't work......third time is a charm!
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i'm definitely putting up pics. as far as pics during the install, i'll try but not promising anything. if i run into something that is out of the ordinary or a little different then i will keep everyone updated on it. but definitely pics once its up and running.
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