dzuy's hondata review.
#1
dzuy's hondata review.
i got my car back a day early!
well - i'm going to be perfectly honest. hondata is great at 5k rpm and up. but let's start with the beginning.
at low rpms - the extra torque makes the car feel even smoother than it already does. it doesn't feel any faster at anything less than 4500 rpm. but as you climb through past the 4000-4500 mark, the car gradually starts to pull hard. once the tach reaches 5k, the tsx is simply bad ass the engine growls hard all the way to the 7500-7600 rpm redline.
my car sounds different at full throttle now - it sounds more pissed off. you know why? b/c it is. i swear - cars just seem to be in the way tonight.
the throttle response feels ALOT quicker - none of that delay crap from the DBW. i wonder if hondata even messed with that at all. it sure feels like they did.
highlights:
i was cruising on a local highway, maybe about 55 or 60 - downshifted to third - before hondata - the car would hesitate. after hondata - the car jerks you back in your seat and simply GOES.
the most exciting part tonight was the first time i took my car to 7600 rpm. oh my god. that's all i could think. was oh my god. and once i started i couldnt stop.
1st gear - 7600
2nd gear - 7600
3rd gear - 7600.
it's true, the transistion to vtec at 5k is so smooth, but it's def. there. the tach moves alot quicker to redline than before. no doubt about it.
i'm supposed to get dynoed on sat - but i might cancel b/c i have an exam to study for this thurs and to be honest with you - i still feel like the wheels are holding me back. i'm so tempted to get some 17inch wheels before i go dyno.
is it worth it? shoot - one run pass 5k and you can decide for yourself. i wish there was more power on the bottom end - but oh well - the car is def alot faster than it was before.
good job hondata.
well - i'm going to be perfectly honest. hondata is great at 5k rpm and up. but let's start with the beginning.
at low rpms - the extra torque makes the car feel even smoother than it already does. it doesn't feel any faster at anything less than 4500 rpm. but as you climb through past the 4000-4500 mark, the car gradually starts to pull hard. once the tach reaches 5k, the tsx is simply bad ass the engine growls hard all the way to the 7500-7600 rpm redline.
my car sounds different at full throttle now - it sounds more pissed off. you know why? b/c it is. i swear - cars just seem to be in the way tonight.
the throttle response feels ALOT quicker - none of that delay crap from the DBW. i wonder if hondata even messed with that at all. it sure feels like they did.
highlights:
i was cruising on a local highway, maybe about 55 or 60 - downshifted to third - before hondata - the car would hesitate. after hondata - the car jerks you back in your seat and simply GOES.
the most exciting part tonight was the first time i took my car to 7600 rpm. oh my god. that's all i could think. was oh my god. and once i started i couldnt stop.
1st gear - 7600
2nd gear - 7600
3rd gear - 7600.
it's true, the transistion to vtec at 5k is so smooth, but it's def. there. the tach moves alot quicker to redline than before. no doubt about it.
i'm supposed to get dynoed on sat - but i might cancel b/c i have an exam to study for this thurs and to be honest with you - i still feel like the wheels are holding me back. i'm so tempted to get some 17inch wheels before i go dyno.
is it worth it? shoot - one run pass 5k and you can decide for yourself. i wish there was more power on the bottom end - but oh well - the car is def alot faster than it was before.
good job hondata.
#3
normal driving - you really wont be able to notice that anything is different - with the exception of the car driving smoother and the quicker throttle response.
WOT - the feeling is incredible.
i have no regrets.
WOT - the feeling is incredible.
i have no regrets.
#4
Oh man... that review reminded me of my '98 lude, VTEC kicks in at 5k rpm, sweet!!! I am definitely sure Hondata K24B is even SWEETER than that stock H22B in the VTEC zone.
Just hope Hondata will resolve the reflash problem with the '05 MT ECU soon...
Just hope Hondata will resolve the reflash problem with the '05 MT ECU soon...
#6
Originally Posted by cmf
And you're running.... what CAI?..... with Comptech header and Comptech exhaust, correct?
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comptech header
comptech exhuast
soon to be hondata heat shield gasket
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#8
Originally Posted by cmf
Will be interesting to see your dyno run vs taewlee.
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actually. i really want to put back on 17s before hitting the dyno. i know it's goin to make a difference
the place that will dyno my car is chargin 50 USD for 3 runs on the dyno
#10
Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
come on HONDATA hurry with the auto version, i am starting to loose sleep over this!!!!!!!!!
too bad you guys aren't from orlando, i'll give you a ride and make you want it even more.
i wanted gold hondata stickers but i guess they dont have any b/c i got white ones
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#12
Originally Posted by dzuy
so are there any specific questions before i fall asleep?
You said there's not much gain at low-end, but there's no loss either, is there?
#13
Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
Just to keep you awake for a little longer
You said there's not much gain at low-end, but there's no loss either, is there?
You said there's not much gain at low-end, but there's no loss either, is there?
except like i mentioned earlier - the improved torque improves smoothness of the car at lower rpm (under 4k)
#14
Originally Posted by dzuy
nope. you cant tell any real power difference on the low end.
except like i mentioned earlier - the improved torque improves smoothness of the car at lower rpm (under 4k)
except like i mentioned earlier - the improved torque improves smoothness of the car at lower rpm (under 4k)
or go for another WOT drive
#15
i knew it!
the car drives better as a result of this guys.
Originally Posted by hondata
You may (or may not) feel some part throttle improvement at lower RPM under 3000 rpm. For everything else, only WOT was optimised (about the last 20% of throttle)
#17
Congrats!!!! Dyno with the 19's and the 17's I think you will dyno higher with 19's. Lighter weight and less rotational mass. YES they are bigger so it takes them longer per revolution to turn. BUT less rotating mass=more power. Try it and either prove me right or wrong. I also think that the reason your 19's is slowing you down is your tires. Toyo's suck...no offense. But I think you should have good numbers with the 19's. I am not a wheel guy I am a turbo guy im just guessin on this so guys don't flame me on this. But I would really like to see 2 dyno's from your car 19's and stocks or other rims. Show me the money DZUY!!!
#22
Originally Posted by dzuy
too bad you guys aren't from orlando, i'll give you a ride and make you want it even more.
:troutslap
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#25
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Originally Posted by dzuy
too bad you guys aren't from orlando, i'll give you a ride and make you want it even more.
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#26
Originally Posted by TSX 3Pedal
Is it SMOG legal?
#28
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Considering Hondata is located in Torrance, CA, I find it hard to believe that they would develop something that wouldn't meet Cali's strict emissions standards. Wouldn't worry about it.
#29
Originally Posted by Stokeless_TSX
Congrats!!!! Dyno with the 19's and the 17's I think you will dyno higher with 19's. Lighter weight and less rotational mass. YES they are bigger so it takes them longer per revolution to turn. BUT less rotating mass=more power. Try it and either prove me right or wrong. I also think that the reason your 19's is slowing you down is your tires. Toyo's suck...no offense. But I think you should have good numbers with the 19's. I am not a wheel guy I am a turbo guy im just guessin on this so guys don't flame me on this. But I would really like to see 2 dyno's from your car 19's and stocks or other rims. Show me the money DZUY!!!
i dont plan on doin both set of wheels tho.
#30
Originally Posted by sergeremi
Hey can I come down to check it out? I was gonna be in the Orlando area next week.
if it's during the week forget about it.
i have an exam to get ready for and i work full time.
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#31
Originally Posted by supraken
Since we can't get a ride from you, how about a video, Dzuy?
i have a digi cam that has really poor resolution. maybe i'll use that for the time being.
too bad it's rainy outside so i'm not goin to do right now.
maybe i'll use dan martins in car camera technique.
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#32
Originally Posted by dzuy
maybe i'll use dan martins in car camera technique.
This is what you need. All my auto-x and track day in-car videos were using something similar to this. Unfortunately, my site is down now due to many people downloading videos from my site. It'll be back up on April 1st (or if I pay extra for more bandwidth, it'll be back up earlier).
Sorry for the .
BTW, very nice review. I really want the Hondata also.
#33
This may be a silly question but...
If I get my ECU reflashed, is it possible to get it put back to stock setting?
Not that I'd want to, but what if I needed to go back to stock because of warranty issues.
If I get my ECU reflashed, is it possible to get it put back to stock setting?
Not that I'd want to, but what if I needed to go back to stock because of warranty issues.
#35
Originally Posted by vwong
the car is a bit smaller.. I might get smack when I turn around..
#36
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Originally Posted by ForceSHO
I got one.. it fits my accord very well.. I didn't put it on the tsx yet..
the car is a bit smaller.. I might get smack when I turn around..
the car is a bit smaller.. I might get smack when I turn around..
find out if it fits cause i might bde buying one and would like to know ahead of time if it fits well.
#37
Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
find out if it fits cause i might bde buying one and would like to know ahead of time if it fits well.
Before Chase Cam developed the headrest Cruise Cam mount, I designed one and had it custom fabricated. At the time, my design was to fit in both my Prelude and my Integra. Well, the Integra is gone and I have a TSX now. Found out that my design didn't fit in the TSX. But I was too lazy to re-design another one. Then Chase Cam came up with theirs, so I bought one and test fitted in both my Prelude and my TSX. It works on both.
Again, unfortunately my site is down now. In my Video page, the first 3 videos were taken with the Chase Cam mount, and the rest of the videos were taken with my custom designed one. I'll see if I can get my web hosting company to give me more bandwidth.
#40
Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
Nice review man...... always expected to get great results with you!!.....
I wish the AUTO one will hurry up.....those stock Type S are really pissing me off on the road~
I wish the AUTO one will hurry up.....those stock Type S are really pissing me off on the road~