xLusi0n

i know all about usable power...my MR2T doesnt start making power till 5000 rpms due to the turbo setup...sometimes i wish i had a nice V8TT

CGTSX2004

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The difference is the engineering. Comptech spends a great deal of its time engineering the parts and matching them to the specs that Honda provides so as not to void the warranty. This is why the cost is so high.

Only other company I can see producing a supercharger unit is Jackson Racing.

Dan Martin

I was comparing it to the 1994 NSX 5MT which does the 1/4 at 13.8 @ 101. Seeing as a stock 6MT TSX can run the quarter at 15.3 @ 95 I would think an extra 100hp should be able to shave off 1.5 seconds. In any case I dont think it wouldn't be a complete blowout. Maybe a few tenths difference.

Tsex on 19s

so when do they expect to have this s/c on the market? its time to start saving up money, and you think i should finish off the bolt ons before i throw in a s/c or is it okay to slap one on before i get the headers, and exhaust?

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

You'll likely see the best gains with a free flowing exhaust/header setup in place. I'm not sure about the location of the supercharger yet, but you may have to toss out portions of an intake system if you get one.

TSX007

I'll wait for a Toda engine kit, NA all the way, thank you.

xizor

why, FI is more bang for the buck. but it is cheating engineering wise.

Zapata

that'd be good as well but what effect will the kit on day to day driving? Where will the power appear?

TSX007

Agreed but I'm not really looking for an extra 100hp, with all that added stress to stock internals (including tranny) I would think it would shorten the overall life of the engine. I'd be happy with 220hp to the wheels and with the Toda kit that's a realistic goal, in addition, I'd be strengthening the internals. The bad part is that the Toda kit with camshaft, pistons, rods, valves, springs, and ecu would be significantly more money than the SC. The SC is definitely the best bang for the buck but I choose not to go that route.

TSX007

First of all, I'm not 100% sure that Toda will even make a kit for the TSX, I've just heard rumors. Secondly, I'm basing my decision on Toda's work on the RSX, of course, R&D is going to be totally different due to the TSX's long stroke but I'm crossing my fingers that it will happen. Driveability? Check out http://www.todaracing.com/products/h...ngine_kit.html

JTso

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Since the ECU upgrade is needed regardless if it's N/A or FI, I'd go for the Hondata K-Pro first and see how much HP can be extracted from the base engine setup with I/H/E. If the gain is satisfactory without adding anymore stuffs, I'll take the money and go learn how to drive next.

TSX007

Good point, if we can see RSX type gains with Hondata that would save me alot of money too.
Guess we just have to wait and see.

Tsex on 19s

how are the gains on the RSX?

TSX007

Check this out
www.hondata.com/k20a2release.html

Zapata

wow that's amazing on an unmodified RSX no less. Ugh.....eagerly awaiting the chip for the TSX. 220/180 is pretty nice for NA i-4 if the perfomance gains carry over from the RSX tuning.

TSX Hokie

Rather than unload $10k+ squeezing 100 more HP out of the TSX, I think I would rather buy a used sports car for a second car (300Z, Supra, or early S2k).

Either way you end up with a fast car and no warranty.

But if you really want to spend all that money just so you too can have torque steer problems like with the TL, be my guest.

Zapata

can't say i disagree with your sentiment about saving the money.....

bleah trq steer problems with TL is the result of car and driver having its head-up its ass. It's called a HLSD....on uneven ground you'll have it....with RWD cars you'll have the back end flyout for no apparent reason....

I had an 5AT CLS and now own a 6MT CLS. I had more trq steer with the 5AT than i've ever had with the 6MT.

KingV

Supra prices are pretty outrageous. Granted, I love them, but I'm not too keen on spending 30k on a car with over 50000 miles. I've seen them cheaper, but can't attest for how well maintained it is. I guess I'm leary about buying a used sports car in general.

bmencig

I would like to have this supercharger yesterday :-))))

Stokeless_TSX

i am still gonna go turbo hehehehe

Tsex on 19s

I talked to my service department at Fountain Acura in Orlando, FL. an they were like it will void the warranty on the engine. the guy was like..."any problems with the engine, they'll jus simply blame on the supercharger." He was tellin me that the only warranty that I'll prolly get is the factory one from comptech.. is this tru, I coulda swore this dealership works with comptech? I thought comptech and honda work together. maybe i approached him with the wrong question.

accord19z

my dealership told me that if i got comptech parts it would not void the warrenty. they did say that for it not to void though they would have to install the parts

ricecake

Comptech bolt-ons generally don't void warranties, but the reason for this is explained in the two "stickied" threads (the Hondata ECU reflash thread and in the mods and warranty info thread ) in this particular forum. But forced induction is a completely different matter, with the premise generally being that you increase air flow/air density which sometimes does things like the system running rich. Vortech and other supercharger manufacturers state that their superchargers do not void factory warranties BUT they must be installed correctly, following the step-by-step instructions.

I personally would also wait for the Hondata reflash to come onto the market, and it's supposed to be coming soon (end of summer).

provench

End of the summer eh ... I just might make a move on the Hondata option Might just give me the slight more snap that I am looking for.

Tsex on 19s

keep in mind that im engine illiterate.... but is the reflash better before adding bolt ons/forced induction, or after? and will performance vary depending on when one adds the reflash?

Dan Martin

If you are going to boost the car you'll want to get the K-Pro instead of a reflash. The K-Pro can be retuned for any additional upgrades you make.

Tsex on 19s

and im guessing superchargin is different from boosting?

JTso

iTrader: (2)

It's the same thing. The supercharger puts out boost to the engine.

Tsex on 19s

thanx... so if im interested in the supercharger.... i wont need the reflash, instead i should get the k-pro, eventho supercharger is a long term purchase for me...

JTso

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Yup, that's why I mentioned to get the K-Pro first and see what it can do to the I/H/E setup. Once you have the supercharger, then retune it for boost. You will not have this type of flexibility with a simple reflash.

Stokeless_TSX

go Johnny its your birthday hahaha Jtso always on a roll...seriously i think this guy has a tech manual installed in his brain.

xizor

boost means forced induction, which can be S/C or Turbo

Tsex on 19s

tight.... so when is this k-pro comin out for the tsx?

Dan Martin

"End of summer"

Tsex on 19s

and how much ya think its gunna cost?

JTso

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About $1000.00 if you send in your ECU.

http://www.hondata.com/kprorelease.html

Dan Martin

It will likely be the same as the RSX:
MSRP is
$999 for the reflash
$1599 for the K-Pro

Tsex on 19s

damn thas a lot.. might as well aim for the supercharger.. if you already spendin more then a thousand. youll get way more hp.

Dan Martin

You can't use a supercharger without one...

Tsex on 19s

damn this k-pro stuff seems really complicated.. its only gunna be useful to someone who knows what the heck he's doing... as for me. ima jus save up for the s/c, unless there is a ECU that requires me to jus drive and enjoy the upgrade, rather than learning how to use its software, and then altering its settings to be perfect.