Why no luxury brand minivans?
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Originally Posted by Agent_Chen
that is one fugly center console!![EEK!](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
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i dunno, i kind of like the open cab-forward design of the dash area. it really lets you see just how you wasted your money.
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Originally Posted by NeoChaser
Soccer Moms drive mini van.... which it's purpose is to move ppl around, not for speed or lexury
0-30 2.7 0-60 7.5 1/4 mile 15.9@88mph
Exactly HOW FAST is the Acura TSX with the automatic?
BTW, the Acura MDX is built on the same platform and it's about the same size as the Odyssey. Cleverly disguised, but it's the same platform!
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Minivan sales feel the impact of crossovers
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http://buffalo.bizjournals.com/buffa...ml?t=printable
Twenty years ago Chrysler revolutionized the automotive world when it brought out its boxy alternative to the venerable station wagon, the minivan. It was an instant success, copied in various forms by me-too competitors, and by the turn of the century now-stylized vans grabbed off 7.7 percent of the American light vehicle market.
Since 1999-2000, minivans' marketplace share has tailed off to a nine-year low of 6.6 percent in 2003, according to data from Ward's Auto World. Conventional wisdom suggests that minivan sales are being eroded by competition from so-called crossover utility vehicles -- car-based SUVs -- who's piece of the pie has grown from 3 percent in 2000 to 9.7 percent last year, according to Ward's.
In fact, the newest thrust against minivans is coming from big SUVs such as the Cadillac SRX, Lexus GX470, Nissan Armada and Dodge Durango -- all of which are, or have, added third row seats. In all, there are now 18 three-row SUVs on the road, compared with 17 minivan models.
Yep...that's what they're workin' on...
Dale English
http://buffalo.bizjournals.com/buffa...ml?t=printable
Twenty years ago Chrysler revolutionized the automotive world when it brought out its boxy alternative to the venerable station wagon, the minivan. It was an instant success, copied in various forms by me-too competitors, and by the turn of the century now-stylized vans grabbed off 7.7 percent of the American light vehicle market.
Since 1999-2000, minivans' marketplace share has tailed off to a nine-year low of 6.6 percent in 2003, according to data from Ward's Auto World. Conventional wisdom suggests that minivan sales are being eroded by competition from so-called crossover utility vehicles -- car-based SUVs -- who's piece of the pie has grown from 3 percent in 2000 to 9.7 percent last year, according to Ward's.
In fact, the newest thrust against minivans is coming from big SUVs such as the Cadillac SRX, Lexus GX470, Nissan Armada and Dodge Durango -- all of which are, or have, added third row seats. In all, there are now 18 three-row SUVs on the road, compared with 17 minivan models.
Yep...that's what they're workin' on...
#46
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I think you are all missing the point. Have you ever looked inside a three year old minivan. They are almost always trashed. Who wants to wipe baby puke off a leather seat attached to a $50K vehicle?
#47
Unfortunately, that's true. But there are still people who'd buy a luxury minivan - just not as many as those who'd want an SUV. Although I honestly think the more sensible person, especially with younger kids, would choose a minivan regardless of an SUV's "advantages" simply because it's so much easier to get in and out of.
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Originally Posted by bob shiftright
Honda Odyssey C/D June. 2004:
0-30 2.7 0-60 7.5 1/4 mile 15.9@88mph
Exactly HOW FAST is the Acura TSX with the automatic?
BTW, the Acura MDX is built on the same platform and it's about the same size as the Odyssey. Cleverly disguised, but it's the same platform!
0-30 2.7 0-60 7.5 1/4 mile 15.9@88mph
Exactly HOW FAST is the Acura TSX with the automatic?
BTW, the Acura MDX is built on the same platform and it's about the same size as the Odyssey. Cleverly disguised, but it's the same platform!
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The new Ody's are old school VTEC fast
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Maybe minivans will make a comeback when the tuner crowd has kids and soccer games.
This is what every minivan looks like in Hong Kong, fully kitted w/ fogs and spoilers.
This is what every minivan looks like in Hong Kong, fully kitted w/ fogs and spoilers.
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To be honest ... that looks like a wagon to me
Funny how "wagon" has become passe and how minivans are the "cool thing". Personally, I wouldn't want anything smaller that our minivan (US Ody size) ... if we did, we would have bought a wagon. To me it is a very practical option vs. a full sized SUV gas hog
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That's the Honda Stream, it's more wagon than it is minivan. Also it's Civic-based and not as big as what we'd expect from a modern minivan, which is anything but mini.
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Originally Posted by phile
That's the Honda Stream, it's more wagon than it is minivan. Also it's Civic-based and not as big as what we'd expect from a modern minivan, which is anything but mini.
BTW: do you know which Honda minivan/wagon has its rear lights all on the D pillar (the area surrounding the rear window). It looked gorgeous.
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Originally Posted by provench
Funny how "wagon" has become passe and how minivans are the "cool thing".
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Originally Posted by elduderino
Dude! Dodge Magnum, Pacifica, Audi Avants and Allroads, Mazda5 Sportwagons, Lexus IS300 SportCross, Mercedes and BMW bring back the wagon - I think wagons are back and minivans are passe!
like i said before, can't wait to see an acura sport wagon.
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Originally Posted by elduderino
Dude! Dodge Magnum, Pacifica, Audi Avants and Allroads, Mazda5 Sportwagons, Lexus IS300 SportCross, Mercedes and BMW bring back the wagon - I think wagons are back and minivans are passe!
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Originally Posted by SPUDMTN
I'd take a wagon over a minivan--the Audi Avants & Mercedes E-class wagons are drop-dead gorgeous (and on the verge of sexy)
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Originally Posted by xizor
BTW: do you know which Honda minivan/wagon has its rear lights all on the D pillar (the area surrounding the rear window). It looked gorgeous.
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Originally Posted by provench
Function man ... function!
And no ... nothing beats a good minivan for function for a family of 4+ ... not even close.
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Though I guess you're right...you can't beat the function of a van
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Originally Posted by SPUDMTN
I'd take a wagon over a minivan--the Audi Avants & Mercedes E-class wagons are drop-dead gorgeous (and on the verge of sexy)
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I've actually seen some of the doctor's cars who have kids. I've seen a RX330 with multiple spongebob stickers on window, huge chocolate stain on the rear leather, funky smell... I sweat, I'm getting a stripped down sienna to fall around my brats when they come along.
Junkster, who thinks that's all hypothetical... about having kids
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LOL, I spilled soda all over my CDs when I was trying to put the soda can in the cupholder. Thinking I'd nailed it, I let go and the soda spilled on its side and went all over. So it's not just kids who damage cars ![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Phile, who doesn't mind kids.
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Phile, who doesn't mind kids.
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Originally Posted by phile
I think right now the closest thing to a luxury minivan is the top of the line Toyota Sienna, that thing tops out at around 38K I think. Alls Toyota's gotta do is give that thing auto-leveling HID headlights, throw on a Lexus badge and you got yourself a luxury minivan.
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Nissan's Quest!
Nissan's Quest is the nicest van on the market, besides the ugly center console which I admit is really of a horrible design, the rest of the van is just so nice thought.
Cant compare it to any other mini van, i mean look at the skyview on the roof, that's just so nice!
you gotta try it, and yes we own one
fully equipped, leather, skyroof, and everything,
just missing the nav wich cost 7k more though :'( and includes 2 rear dvd screen.
if you think nissan is not a luxury brand, and i agree to some extent, then rebadge it with infiniti and you've got your luxury mini van...
i just love my quest
Cant compare it to any other mini van, i mean look at the skyview on the roof, that's just so nice!
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you gotta try it, and yes we own one
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fully equipped, leather, skyroof, and everything,
just missing the nav wich cost 7k more though :'( and includes 2 rear dvd screen.
if you think nissan is not a luxury brand, and i agree to some extent, then rebadge it with infiniti and you've got your luxury mini van...
i just love my quest
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Originally Posted by dzuy
no luxury minivans - b/c moms with big families need room - not luxury ![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Moms these days be trippin' fo' mo' bling bling. They be bouty bouty fo mo features offered on lux cars, yo. What drove them SUV sales? moms, b, who wanted da bling factor.
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Originally Posted by Junkster
I've actually seen some of the doctor's cars who have kids. I've seen a RX330 with multiple spongebob stickers on window, huge chocolate stain on the rear leather, funky smell... I sweat, I'm getting a stripped down sienna to fall around my brats when they come along.
Junkster, who thinks that's all hypothetical... about having kids
Junkster, who thinks that's all hypothetical... about having kids
For kids, dogs and drywall, I'd still buy a Sienna or Oddy over leasing a Mercedes, Volvo or Audi wagon because it's a better box on wheels for carrying stuff around even if it doesn't impress the neighbors! Just so long as it's the wife, not me that has to drive it most of the time!
An you can beat a TSX automatic with an Oddy at the dragstrip!
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