View Poll Results: Whats the most significant problem the TSX has right now?
Rust
4
6.45%
Rattles
49
79.03%
Transmission Problems
2
3.23%
Electrical Problems
3
4.84%
Other
4
6.45%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll
Whats the biggest issue facing the TSX right now?
03-22-2004, 03:11 PM
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Whats the biggest issue facing the TSX right now?
While there hasnt been alot of problems with our beloved TSX so far (knock on wood), there have been some.
From the problems you have heard about on here, what do you think is the most significant problem the TSX has right now?
From the problems you have heard about on here, what do you think is the most significant problem the TSX has right now?
03-22-2004, 03:15 PM
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I voted for rattles as being the worst problem on the TSX right now and when you think about it, that's a pretty minor problem to be the worst thing about a car. That being said, my car had the dashboard creak but it went away on it's own and hasn't returned so I guess there aren't any problems with my car. 
03-22-2004, 03:17 PM
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I'd have to say rust. There have not been enough tranny failures as of yet to worry about, in fact I don't even think it should be a poll option.
Rattles are a worry but utlimately not something that we have to worry about in terms of reliability.
Rust worries me a great deal. Once a car starts rusting is hard if not impossible to make it stop rusting. And it seems alot of TSX's have this problem. In my eyes rust is our greatest enemy right now.
Lets not forget the electrical problems some are having.
Rattles are a worry but utlimately not something that we have to worry about in terms of reliability.
Rust worries me a great deal. Once a car starts rusting is hard if not impossible to make it stop rusting. And it seems alot of TSX's have this problem. In my eyes rust is our greatest enemy right now.
Lets not forget the electrical problems some are having.
03-22-2004, 03:34 PM
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The rust warranty is "Rust: 5 yr. / Unlimited mi."
Is there anything that would be a problem within that period realisticly provding you dont have those dumb fender flaps..
Is there anything that would be a problem within that period realisticly provding you dont have those dumb fender flaps..
03-22-2004, 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by gfxdave99
The rust warranty is "Rust: 5 yr. / Unlimited mi."
Is there anything that would be a problem within that period realisticly provding you dont have those dumb fender flaps..
The rust warranty is "Rust: 5 yr. / Unlimited mi."
Is there anything that would be a problem within that period realisticly provding you dont have those dumb fender flaps..
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03-22-2004, 04:15 PM
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I voted for rattles because they seem to be the most common based on the complaints posted on this board. Personally I haven't experienced any problems with the TSX.
03-22-2004, 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by HKevF
Given that this is based on opinions, it is of highly questionable value.
Given that this is based on opinions, it is of highly questionable value.
03-22-2004, 05:35 PM
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here it is from the book fyi
Time and Mileage Period
This warranty’s coverage begins on
the same date as the New Vehicle
Limited Warranty (see page 11), and
continues for 5 years with no mileage
limit. Any body panels repaired or
replaced under this warranty are
covered only for the time remaining
in the original 5 years of coverage.
Warranty Coverage
Acura will repair or replace any
original body panel that rusts
completely through from the inside
out (perforated by corrosion). This
includes panels previously repaired
or replaced under this warranty. Rust
that does not perforate, but is caused
by a defect in material or
workmanship, is covered under the
New Car Limited Warranty. You will
not be charged for any parts,
material, or labor under this
warranty. The decision to repair,
rather than replace, any rusted body
panel will be made by Acura.
This Warranty Does Not Cover:
Surface rust on the underbody or
any other part of the vehicle
except body panels.
Rusting of body panels that were
repaired, replaced, or refinished
after retail sale of the vehicle,
unless those panels were repaired
or replaced under this warranty.
Body panel rust caused by abuse,
misuse, or lack of maintenance.
Rusting where the paint has been
damaged by road hazards such as
stones and debris.
Rust caused by immersion of the
body panel in water, mud, or sand;
or resulting from exposure to
corrosive gas or industrial fallout.
Paint matching. (Acura reserves
the right to decide how much of
the repaired or replaced panel, and
any adjoining body panels, need to
be repainted to match the original
finish. Acura will not, under any
circumstances, authorize painting
the entire vehicle strictly for the
purpose of paint matching.)
This warranty’s coverage begins on
the same date as the New Vehicle
Limited Warranty (see page 11), and
continues for 5 years with no mileage
limit. Any body panels repaired or
replaced under this warranty are
covered only for the time remaining
in the original 5 years of coverage.
Warranty Coverage
Acura will repair or replace any
original body panel that rusts
completely through from the inside
out (perforated by corrosion). This
includes panels previously repaired
or replaced under this warranty. Rust
that does not perforate, but is caused
by a defect in material or
workmanship, is covered under the
New Car Limited Warranty. You will
not be charged for any parts,
material, or labor under this
warranty. The decision to repair,
rather than replace, any rusted body
panel will be made by Acura.
This Warranty Does Not Cover:
Surface rust on the underbody or
any other part of the vehicle
except body panels.
Rusting of body panels that were
repaired, replaced, or refinished
after retail sale of the vehicle,
unless those panels were repaired
or replaced under this warranty.
Body panel rust caused by abuse,
misuse, or lack of maintenance.
Rusting where the paint has been
damaged by road hazards such as
stones and debris.
Rust caused by immersion of the
body panel in water, mud, or sand;
or resulting from exposure to
corrosive gas or industrial fallout.
Paint matching. (Acura reserves
the right to decide how much of
the repaired or replaced panel, and
any adjoining body panels, need to
be repainted to match the original
finish. Acura will not, under any
circumstances, authorize painting
the entire vehicle strictly for the
purpose of paint matching.)
03-22-2004, 05:36 PM
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I'd vote for rattles, because they are the most difficult to find/fix. Rust you can see, point to it, and say, "fix it!", but rattles are nebulous to find and fix, and rarely get fixed on the first go around. Also, rattles, from all of the posts I've read across 3-4 boards, seem to generate the most lost enamel among TSX owners 
03-22-2004, 06:12 PM
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Thanks for the clarification on the rust warranty gfxdave99. The trunk rust problem that a few of us have seen is definitely covered under warranty then.
03-22-2004, 06:33 PM
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I am looking to "slightly" upgrade from a 2000 Civic EX, but after 4.5 years and 45k, I still don't have a single rattle. That is my biggest concern because rattles drive me nuts. I can see myself outside at night with a flashlight trying to find where that rattle is coming from.
Of couse, if rattles are the biggest concern, thats pretty good. I'm probably going to wait until the '05 comes out and hope they fixed all the little nitpicks by then.
Of couse, if rattles are the biggest concern, thats pretty good. I'm probably going to wait until the '05 comes out and hope they fixed all the little nitpicks by then.
03-22-2004, 11:16 PM
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How can an absolutely brand new car have rust already????? The painting process and rust prevention measures that modern cars go through is amazing. Rust on a new car is WAY beyond a problem.....it's a crisis!!!
03-23-2004, 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by Crazytree
apparently the rust is a result of salt water corrosion that took place during shipping.
apparently the rust is a result of salt water corrosion that took place during shipping.
03-23-2004, 02:08 AM
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my service guy was telling me a few months ago that the biggest problem they were having was that salt water had gotten inside the headlights of the TSX and was corroding the components. he said that there had been some serious issues with the shipping across the Pacific.
by implication I am assuming that if the exposure to salt water was significant enough to result in seepage into the headlight assembly... that it very likely is contributing to rust in areas that seem to be areas where moisture or condensation would gather... especially in the trunk where the water is supposed to run off.
but then again I could be totally off.
by implication I am assuming that if the exposure to salt water was significant enough to result in seepage into the headlight assembly... that it very likely is contributing to rust in areas that seem to be areas where moisture or condensation would gather... especially in the trunk where the water is supposed to run off.
but then again I could be totally off.
03-23-2004, 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by Dan Martin
I voted for rattles as being the worst problem on the TSX right now and when you think about it, that's a pretty minor problem to be the worst thing about a car. That being said, my car had the dashboard creak but it went away on it's own and hasn't returned so I guess there aren't any problems with my car.
I voted for rattles as being the worst problem on the TSX right now and when you think about it, that's a pretty minor problem to be the worst thing about a car. That being said, my car had the dashboard creak but it went away on it's own and hasn't returned so I guess there aren't any problems with my car.
It would be great if cars came with no factory defects, but thats just not possible! And besides, Honda has been fixing all our problems hassel free.
Our problems are very minor when you compare them to manufacturers such as MB or VW so I still think Honda's quality/reliablity/finess is still up there.
03-24-2004, 12:20 AM
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All this talk about rust, has anyone had theirs undercoated or rustproofed?.
Got mine about a month ago. It has all ready experienced Chicago road salt. I was thinking about having it undercoated this spring.......
Got mine about a month ago. It has all ready experienced Chicago road salt. I was thinking about having it undercoated this spring.......
03-24-2004, 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by StanH
In 11 months and 14,000 miles I have had zero problems. I guess I can't vote.
In 11 months and 14,000 miles I have had zero problems. I guess I can't vote.
Except maybe dying to know when the Hondata ECU thing will be out.
03-24-2004, 10:07 AM
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Its official, everyone has misunderstood my post I think this has turned into a thread for people to report on what particular problem they are having ( as evident by the number of rattle choices the poll has gotten). But my intention was for us to discuss what the biggest problem facing the TSX was in general, regardless of if you have it or not.
I think this has turned into a thread for people to report on what particular problem they are having ( as evident by the number of rattle choices the poll has gotten). But my intention was for us to discuss what the biggest problem facing the TSX was in general, regardless of if you have it or not.
03-24-2004, 11:16 AM
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I have experienced all of the widespread problems that everyone talks about plus some additional ones that seem to be happening to myself alone or a small number of owners.
In my opinion the biggest problem we all face as an owner group is the rusting happening in the trunk channel and any other surface area that is visible. The rattles are of little concern because they will not affect our resale value like rusting will. If Honda can't fix your rattles over time you will get used to them and no longer hear them. Rust is probably the number 1 concern a buyer for your used car will have. If the rust problem is as rampant as I believe it is, this model year is going to be known as the one with a rust issue and everyone who bought their car will have much lower resale values. All of you who leased look like geniuses to me now.
In my opinion the biggest problem we all face as an owner group is the rusting happening in the trunk channel and any other surface area that is visible. The rattles are of little concern because they will not affect our resale value like rusting will. If Honda can't fix your rattles over time you will get used to them and no longer hear them. Rust is probably the number 1 concern a buyer for your used car will have. If the rust problem is as rampant as I believe it is, this model year is going to be known as the one with a rust issue and everyone who bought their car will have much lower resale values. All of you who leased look like geniuses to me now.
03-24-2004, 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by forestsoft
Mine at this time is wind noise.
The dealer ordered the gaskets for the drivers door side....time will tell when they do the work...
Mine at this time is wind noise.
The dealer ordered the gaskets for the drivers door side....time will tell when they do the work...
03-24-2004, 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by fdl
Its official, everyone has misunderstood my post I think this has turned into a thread for people to report on what particular problem they are having ( as evident by the number of rattle choices the poll has gotten). But my intention was for us to discuss what the biggest problem facing the TSX was in general, regardless of if you have it or not.
Its official, everyone has misunderstood my post
I think this has turned into a thread for people to report on what particular problem they are having ( as evident by the number of rattle choices the poll has gotten). But my intention was for us to discuss what the biggest problem facing the TSX was in general, regardless of if you have it or not.
I believe I have understood your post but it seems no one wants to discuss what should be done about the most common problems. They just wan't to report it. I have stated that our biggest concern should be rust because of what it will do to our future resale values on the cars.
What do you believe the biggest problem facing the TSX is?
Let's discuss.