dom

The Winners

Audi AG 4.2L DOHC V-8 (S4)

BMW AG 3.2L DOHC I-6 (M3)

DaimlerChrysler AG 5.7L Hemi Magnum OHV V-8 (Dodge Ram)

DaimlerChrysler AG 5.9L Cummins 600 OHV I-6 turbodiesel

Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. Subaru 2.5L DOHC turbocharged H-4 (Subaru WRX STi)

General Motors Corp. Vortec 4.2L DOHC I-6 (GMC Envoy)

Honda Motor Co. Ltd. 3L DOHC V-6 (Accord Coupe)

Mazda Motor Corp. 1.3L Renesis rotary (RX-8)

Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Infiniti G35)

Toyota Motor Corp. 1.5L DOHC I-4 Hybrid (Prius)

Five of 2004’s 10 Best Engines are first-time winners,

dom

Sorry I missed one thing, where's the 2.0L from the 04 S2000? In what I've read so far over at Wards they love to talk about HP per litre, where's the undisputed champion?

dnb

A new 10 Best list for 2004 is just out. The 3L v6 is the only Honda engine on the list. The Renesis rotary and Prius system are new additions.

sauceman

I agree with you. I have a hard time believing this too. If they were to match those engines with NA engines, they'd have to take the turbos off. Then we'd see what is the best all-motor engine.

I have a hard time seeing a Hemi in there and not seeing the M5's 5litres, which is, apparently, a fantastic engine. Same for the GT3's 3,6litres.

I would like to believe our fellows here are not used to considering engines outside the American market. As much as a Hemi is a good torquey engine, I don't think it belongs anywhere near the top ten.

As for Ford's powerstroke, it is a very good engine, that is agreed. But if you're going to represent diesels, why not slap in VW's V10 TDI? Or one of Mercedes's diesels?

Edit: I just read the article linked up and I can see their criteria, such that engines for trucks had to be represented in a prportion equal to its market shares in the US. Also, as they said, an exotic car's engine should be outstanding, granted, so they don't take it into account. Well, to me that pretty much lays the case for a list of the top ten outstanding average engines. This would be why M5 engine would not figure there as well as the TDI V10.

I am really interested in seeing an actual ultimate top ten. You will see one or 2 Hondas in there for sure.

dom

Thanks dnb, I edited my post. I guess the 10 Best link on their webpage was'nt updated.

But still no 04 S2000 2L

I wonder why they specified Accord Coupe along with the 3L Honda. That tells me there looking more at the overall vehicle because of the available 6 Speed than the engine.

dnb

The home page of wardsauto.com indicates that GM, Ford and Chrysler employees have site subscriptions. I'd speculate that there's a quota (possibly internal) on engines from the US car companies.

KC 2004 TSX

This is huge for Dodge!! The diesel that International Truck and Engine Corp. makes for Ford Motor Co. is a great engine. It has won this award several times.

EZZ

M5 engine is not allowed. They have a $$$ cutoff mark around $52k.

ajs887

the 04 s2000 engine isn't on there firstly cuz it's an amazing one. and secondly for the 04 year honda pumped up it's displacement to 2.2L

alaskaGuy

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speedzer

umm..... about the vq engine. why did they just label it only to the g35? isn't it in all the nissian cars except the suv's and the sentra? great engine IMHO