TSX on Winter Roads.
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From: NY
Originally Posted by Ronin317
Bumping this back up...I've got my 16" Honda Steels...but I can't seem to find a tire that I like.
It's been fairly mild the past few winters, and I want performance more than ice traction (more wet/slush days than ice). I'm having a fuck of a time trying to find the Viking Snowtech's anywhere locally, and everyone I call that can order them tries to swing me to the Winterforce tires instead in that price range. There is one place online that has the vikings for $66 in 205/60/16, but then there's $40 worth of shipping and $14 per tire for hazard, then I'd have to get them mounted, balanced, and put on for another $65...I'm almost at $100 per...dammit.
Then there's the Michelin Pilot Alpin's and Nokian WR and Hakkas...and apparently the Cooper Glacier Grabber (from my usual garage...). There's too many damn choices and too much to consider...
It's been fairly mild the past few winters, and I want performance more than ice traction (more wet/slush days than ice). I'm having a fuck of a time trying to find the Viking Snowtech's anywhere locally, and everyone I call that can order them tries to swing me to the Winterforce tires instead in that price range. There is one place online that has the vikings for $66 in 205/60/16, but then there's $40 worth of shipping and $14 per tire for hazard, then I'd have to get them mounted, balanced, and put on for another $65...I'm almost at $100 per...dammit.
Then there's the Michelin Pilot Alpin's and Nokian WR and Hakkas...and apparently the Cooper Glacier Grabber (from my usual garage...). There's too many damn choices and too much to consider...
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The M3's are cool...a little pricey though. I'm probably going to end up with the Pilot Alpin's or Nokian WRs.
The only problem I have with that, is that then I basically have 2 sets of All seasons...despite the Nokian's being rated for weather. I guess they'll just last about 3-4 seasons too...
The only problem I have with that, is that then I basically have 2 sets of All seasons...despite the Nokian's being rated for weather. I guess they'll just last about 3-4 seasons too...
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From: Ottawa, Canada
Originally Posted by narci
First off..i guess people missed the other point of having a snow tire is that it has a lower operating temperature then all seasons. Winter tires stay soft in colder weather as oposed to all seasons which harden.
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I change my tires to Nokian WR. It is noiser on the highway (compare to the OEM one) but it works well on rain and snow. At least I do not need another set of tires when the snow falls.
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From: Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted by curls
Definately do NOT run 2 winter tires at all. Run 4. If you MUST run 2, put them on the BACK. It's better to have understeer, than to oversteer (no traction in back w/ winters on front, OEM's on back). Oversteer = spnining on ice = Disney on ice but more expensive and more destructive.
Run 4, be safe.
Run 4, be safe.
talk about mudflaps....
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From: Calgary AB
Originally Posted by kostantinos
too bad
thats the only package deal they offer
anyone else know of a package deal around $500-600 shipped?
thats the only package deal they offer
anyone else know of a package deal around $500-600 shipped?
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So, based on my math, 205/60/15 would be about 0.22 inches larger diameter than the stock tires. I'm guessing since so many of you have done it, it doesn't cause any rubbing?
Also, has anybody tried the dunlop M3 sports in the snow yet? I'm looking at getting those from tirerack as well.
I had Michelin X-Ice tires on my last car, and they worked alright, but I think there are probably better winter tires out there. Also, on warm days (50+) the handling was HORRIBLE on those tires... I felt like driving the car off a cliff on those days.
Also, has anybody tried the dunlop M3 sports in the snow yet? I'm looking at getting those from tirerack as well.
I had Michelin X-Ice tires on my last car, and they worked alright, but I think there are probably better winter tires out there. Also, on warm days (50+) the handling was HORRIBLE on those tires... I felt like driving the car off a cliff on those days.
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From: Brampton, Ontario
I have a 2004 TSX that has been through 3 winters. Snowtires purchased through tireworks in Mississauga following some research were Pirelli snowsports 20560R16 on knockoff steel rims (ie not universals but copies of honda rims).
Total cost for the package installed (November 2003) was $940.00.
Pirelli's were chosen as research promised longer tread life, quiet ride and good wet and dry handling. They are pretty good in deep snow as well and have worn very well. (I have about a 80km (50mile) commute each way to work into Toronto and it looks as though I will get at least two more winters on the tires.
Total cost for the package installed (November 2003) was $940.00.
Pirelli's were chosen as research promised longer tread life, quiet ride and good wet and dry handling. They are pretty good in deep snow as well and have worn very well. (I have about a 80km (50mile) commute each way to work into Toronto and it looks as though I will get at least two more winters on the tires.
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From: Denver, CO
We had a large snowstorm in Denver last week--my first experience with the TSX in bad weather, and I have to say it handled really well (maybe because of the new tires?). Roads were crazy icy and snowpacked, and only once did the VSA kick-in. Granted, I didn't actually try driving around until the day after the storm (snow was too deep to get out), but the morning ice was _bad_. The parking lot at work was iced over (and empty), so I drove the car around a little less timidly than I usually drive in ice and snow, and it didn't really skid around at all. The ice was bad enough that I had trouble walking into the building once I parked! I'm impressed--is this the reason so many Canadians own this car?
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Originally Posted by supz
So, based on my math, 205/60/15 would be about 0.22 inches larger diameter than the stock tires. I'm guessing since so many of you have done it, it doesn't cause any rubbing?
Also, has anybody tried the dunlop M3 sports in the snow yet? I'm looking at getting those from tirerack as well.
I had Michelin X-Ice tires on my last car, and they worked alright, but I think there are probably better winter tires out there. Also, on warm days (50+) the handling was HORRIBLE on those tires... I felt like driving the car off a cliff on those days.
Also, has anybody tried the dunlop M3 sports in the snow yet? I'm looking at getting those from tirerack as well.
I had Michelin X-Ice tires on my last car, and they worked alright, but I think there are probably better winter tires out there. Also, on warm days (50+) the handling was HORRIBLE on those tires... I felt like driving the car off a cliff on those days.
They arrived at the shop today...took my rims up after work. I'll put them on the car in about 2 weeks.
The3D's just worked out to be a good deal, as they have a $50 rebate (M3 does too) until 10-31...still time to order!
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