TSX Stereo Comparison
#1
TSX Stereo Comparison
Many audiophiles have been complaining that the stereo in the TSX isn't very good. How does it compare with other cars in its class (or somewhat in its class) though?
For example:
BMW 3 Series
Mazda Speed 6
Volkwagan Jeta GLI
Ford Fusion
Pontiac G6 GTP
Cadallac STS
Volvo S40
Audi A4
Or any other car you can think of.
The only one above I heard is the stereo in the BMW, and I thought it sucked compared with the TSX.
For example:
BMW 3 Series
Mazda Speed 6
Volkwagan Jeta GLI
Ford Fusion
Pontiac G6 GTP
Cadallac STS
Volvo S40
Audi A4
Or any other car you can think of.
The only one above I heard is the stereo in the BMW, and I thought it sucked compared with the TSX.
#6
I find the TSX stereo to be very good for a stock system.
I used to have a very nice setup in my Integra but the TSX stereo satisfies my ears now (although I outgrew having 2 12's in the back powered by 1100 watts, LOL).
Compared to the BMW 3 Series, the Mazda Speed 6, the Pontiac G6 GTP, and the Audi A4... the TSX is the hands down winner.
I used to have a very nice setup in my Integra but the TSX stereo satisfies my ears now (although I outgrew having 2 12's in the back powered by 1100 watts, LOL).
Compared to the BMW 3 Series, the Mazda Speed 6, the Pontiac G6 GTP, and the Audi A4... the TSX is the hands down winner.
#7
I think the TSX stereo system is really bad - rental car quality. The bass is too loud and distorted. The midrange has no definition. The bass sounds like it's fighting the midrange, trying to drown out the voices in your songs. However, turning down the bass doesn't help much because the midrange just isn't that clear to start with. I can't compare directly to the vehicles you mentioned, but I'd describe it as a big step down from my old 1999 VW Passat, which I traded in the for TSX.
I don't think of myself as being all that fussy and just assumed that the stock system would be good enough for me. So far, I've replaced the rear speakers and I'm planning to replace the door speakers too. I hope that will do it b/c I'm really not the type who enjoys doing these mods.
I don't think of myself as being all that fussy and just assumed that the stock system would be good enough for me. So far, I've replaced the rear speakers and I'm planning to replace the door speakers too. I hope that will do it b/c I'm really not the type who enjoys doing these mods.
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#8
I think its excellent for a stock system. My friend's Mazda 6's Bose system doesn't have the bump that the TSX's does and my friends 3 series doesn't sound as powerful, either.
In terms of the TL and TSX system, the TL's audio is crystal clear but it doesn't have the bass bump that the TSX has.
In terms of the TL and TSX system, the TL's audio is crystal clear but it doesn't have the bass bump that the TSX has.
#9
Originally Posted by siocontl
Can anyone give a comparison too between a TSX and a 2002 TL or 2005 TL?
The TSX gives you three EQ adjustments: No bass, too much bass, all bass. I found the system in my loaner (that I had for a month, mind you) to be sloppy and muddy in comparison to the clean sound of the Bose system in my TL, which doesn't have many fans itself. It's on par with my 2005 Accords system.
#10
Originally Posted by IlliNorge
TSX audio is much nicer than Audi A4 stock. I've only listened to TSX's radio at fairly low volume.
Can't remember if the tsx did this when I was looking at them.
#11
It is fine for a stock stereo. None of us bought a TSX for the sound system
I am underwhelmed with the audio quality of XM though (as others have already mentioned in another thread). Good thing I basically just listen to BBC World News.
I am underwhelmed with the audio quality of XM though (as others have already mentioned in another thread). Good thing I basically just listen to BBC World News.
#13
Originally Posted by Accurate
This is a good thread. If you have tsx w/navi, it'll be a pain in the ass upgrading the system.
#14
Originally Posted by Accurate
This is a good thread. If you have tsx w/navi, it'll be a pain in the ass upgrading the system.
https://acurazine.com/forums/audio-video-electronics-navigation-22/alpine-type-s-speaker-upgrade-278849/
#15
Originally Posted by Accurate
This is a good thread. If you have tsx w/navi, it'll be a pain in the ass upgrading the system.
#16
Originally Posted by Ron Parr
Here's a good thread on upgrading your speakers:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278849
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278849
I checked out the two speakers they recommended and it doesn't look like they make them anymore:
Alpine SPS-170A
Alpine SPS-690A
http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/product...?category=SPKR
I have been generally happy with the OEM speakers but if I have to be critical, I have to agree with some other posters and that they lack the detail in the mid and hi range. The bass could be tighter as well.
I'm not into installing my own speakers but if the above two recommended speakers were still available, I would consider having a good installer doing them.
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#17
Originally Posted by Ron Parr
I think the TSX stereo system is really bad - rental car quality. The bass is too loud and distorted. The midrange has no definition. The bass sounds like it's fighting the midrange, trying to drown out the voices in your songs. However, turning down the bass doesn't help much because the midrange just isn't that clear to start with. I can't compare directly to the vehicles you mentioned, but I'd describe it as a big step down from my old 1999 VW Passat, which I traded in the for TSX.
I don't think of myself as being all that fussy and just assumed that the stock system would be good enough for me. So far, I've replaced the rear speakers and I'm planning to replace the door speakers too. I hope that will do it b/c I'm really not the type who enjoys doing these mods.
I don't think of myself as being all that fussy and just assumed that the stock system would be good enough for me. So far, I've replaced the rear speakers and I'm planning to replace the door speakers too. I hope that will do it b/c I'm really not the type who enjoys doing these mods.
i agree with mid range part tho..
i also think the high is too high...or maybe like scrachy high or something XD
#20
Originally Posted by excited
I checked out the two speakers they recommended and it doesn't look like they make them anymore:
Alpine SPS-170A
Alpine SPS-690A
I ordered the rear speakers and got them in a few days. The door speakers are in transit and will arrive this week.
The rear speaker install was very easy. From the trunk, I pinched the plastic tabs holding the grill in place then popped off the grill from the back seat. I then unscrewed the old speakers, put in the new ones, and I was ready to go. (When I say "unscrewed" I mean that I used a ratchet and socket from my socket set.) I purchased a Honda/Acura speaker harness from Best Buy for $6.50, so everything was literally plug and play - no wires to cut or holes to drill.
Assembling furniture from Ikea requires more skill and effort than this, so I wouldn't pay somebody to do it.
My subjective impression is that the rear speaker upgrade has cleaned up the bass a fair bit, but that there is still room for improvement.
I expect the door speakers will be a bit more effort, but with higher return for the effort as well.
#21
As real as it gets...
Originally Posted by kyotousa
is this guy foreal?...=_=||| hahaha
Just about everything else with the car has met or exceeded my expectations though, so I'm quite happy overall.
#22
Originally Posted by Ron Parr
It's possible that some newer models will also fit well. I really don't like mucking around installing stuff, so I decided to play it safe and go with a known quantity. The older models are still available at good prices from many vendors. You can search for the best price on pricegrabber.com.
I ordered the rear speakers and got them in a few days. The door speakers are in transit and will arrive this week.
The rear speaker install was very easy. From the trunk, I pinched the plastic tabs holding the grill in place then popped off the grill from the back seat. I then unscrewed the old speakers, put in the new ones, and I was ready to go. (When I say "unscrewed" I mean that I used a ratchet and socket from my socket set.) I purchased a Honda/Acura speaker harness from Best Buy for $6.50, so everything was literally plug and play - no wires to cut or holes to drill.
Assembling furniture from Ikea requires more skill and effort than this, so I wouldn't pay somebody to do it.
My subjective impression is that the rear speaker upgrade has cleaned up the bass a fair bit, but that there is still room for improvement.
I expect the door speakers will be a bit more effort, but with higher return for the effort as well.
I ordered the rear speakers and got them in a few days. The door speakers are in transit and will arrive this week.
The rear speaker install was very easy. From the trunk, I pinched the plastic tabs holding the grill in place then popped off the grill from the back seat. I then unscrewed the old speakers, put in the new ones, and I was ready to go. (When I say "unscrewed" I mean that I used a ratchet and socket from my socket set.) I purchased a Honda/Acura speaker harness from Best Buy for $6.50, so everything was literally plug and play - no wires to cut or holes to drill.
Assembling furniture from Ikea requires more skill and effort than this, so I wouldn't pay somebody to do it.
My subjective impression is that the rear speaker upgrade has cleaned up the bass a fair bit, but that there is still room for improvement.
I expect the door speakers will be a bit more effort, but with higher return for the effort as well.
Thanks again.
Excited
#23
Originally Posted by Ron Parr
It's possible that some newer models will also fit well. I really don't like mucking around installing stuff, so I decided to play it safe and go with a known quantity. The older models are still available at good prices from many vendors. You can search for the best price on pricegrabber.com.
I ordered the rear speakers and got them in a few days. The door speakers are in transit and will arrive this week.
The rear speaker install was very easy. From the trunk, I pinched the plastic tabs holding the grill in place then popped off the grill from the back seat. I then unscrewed the old speakers, put in the new ones, and I was ready to go. (When I say "unscrewed" I mean that I used a ratchet and socket from my socket set.) I purchased a Honda/Acura speaker harness from Best Buy for $6.50, so everything was literally plug and play - no wires to cut or holes to drill.
Assembling furniture from Ikea requires more skill and effort than this, so I wouldn't pay somebody to do it.
My subjective impression is that the rear speaker upgrade has cleaned up the bass a fair bit, but that there is still room for improvement.
I expect the door speakers will be a bit more effort, but with higher return for the effort as well.
I ordered the rear speakers and got them in a few days. The door speakers are in transit and will arrive this week.
The rear speaker install was very easy. From the trunk, I pinched the plastic tabs holding the grill in place then popped off the grill from the back seat. I then unscrewed the old speakers, put in the new ones, and I was ready to go. (When I say "unscrewed" I mean that I used a ratchet and socket from my socket set.) I purchased a Honda/Acura speaker harness from Best Buy for $6.50, so everything was literally plug and play - no wires to cut or holes to drill.
Assembling furniture from Ikea requires more skill and effort than this, so I wouldn't pay somebody to do it.
My subjective impression is that the rear speaker upgrade has cleaned up the bass a fair bit, but that there is still room for improvement.
I expect the door speakers will be a bit more effort, but with higher return for the effort as well.
Thanks again.
Excited
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My friend got an 2002 a4 with bose speakers its upgraded, much better, but I can compare the watt in our tsx makes it close if you changes the speakers. I changed the rear 6x9 with alpine type r.
#25
^^I would think installing speakers such as the Alpines would also require installing an amplifier. Surely the Alpines need more power to drive them. Perhaps I'm mistaken. Does the stock head unit power supply do the job or no?
Systems I've had installed in the past were usually as simple as upgrading speakers and driving them with a nice amp. That alone normally makes a dramatic difference in the sound quality.
Systems I've had installed in the past were usually as simple as upgrading speakers and driving them with a nice amp. That alone normally makes a dramatic difference in the sound quality.
#27
You guys should check out the Off Topic / Audio & Video Forum and do a search on "TSX Speakers" or something like that. You'll find a lot of discussion.
In general, we've found that the TSX head unit puts out a pretty clean signal. If you want to keep the OEM amplifier you can still improve the sound by just swapping out speakers. The Alpines that were mentioned earlier have been used by a number of posters. If they are no longer made then chances are that Alpine is making similar speakers with a different model number. Without an aftermarket amp you need to look for speakers with higher efficiencies, somewhere near 92 db, preferably higher.
You can also use the stock HU and add your own amp and speakers. With an aftermarket amp your speaker options increase because you'll have more power available to drive them.
Personally, I though the stock system was OK but nothing special. I upgraded my speakers (dash tweeters, front doors, and rear deck) with Avincar speakers and have been very happy with the upgrade (and this is with the stock HU and stock amp). Avincar is a brand sold by one of our AcuraZine vendors, elduderino.
I've read that Alpine, Polk, and Infinity speakers have been used by members with good success.
In general, we've found that the TSX head unit puts out a pretty clean signal. If you want to keep the OEM amplifier you can still improve the sound by just swapping out speakers. The Alpines that were mentioned earlier have been used by a number of posters. If they are no longer made then chances are that Alpine is making similar speakers with a different model number. Without an aftermarket amp you need to look for speakers with higher efficiencies, somewhere near 92 db, preferably higher.
You can also use the stock HU and add your own amp and speakers. With an aftermarket amp your speaker options increase because you'll have more power available to drive them.
Personally, I though the stock system was OK but nothing special. I upgraded my speakers (dash tweeters, front doors, and rear deck) with Avincar speakers and have been very happy with the upgrade (and this is with the stock HU and stock amp). Avincar is a brand sold by one of our AcuraZine vendors, elduderino.
I've read that Alpine, Polk, and Infinity speakers have been used by members with good success.
#28
Yeah, the TSX stereo is pretty good... for a stock, factory system. I've heard a lot of really bad ones, and the TSX is pretty decent. However, I still wasted no time in swapping out those speakers!
Stock, it is way too boomy in the midbass. The speakers are loud, they're just not as good as a good aftermarket set.
I think some aftermarket speakers will require amplification. I can crank it pretty loud with the Avincar setup, although, you can always convince yourself that you need a bit more...
If you want Alpines, then what jlukja said.....
Stock, it is way too boomy in the midbass. The speakers are loud, they're just not as good as a good aftermarket set.
I think some aftermarket speakers will require amplification. I can crank it pretty loud with the Avincar setup, although, you can always convince yourself that you need a bit more...
If you want Alpines, then what jlukja said.....
#29
Originally Posted by Ron Parr
It's possible that some newer models will also fit well. I really don't like mucking around installing stuff, so I decided to play it safe and go with a known quantity. The older models are still available at good prices from many vendors. You can search for the best price on pricegrabber.com.
I ordered the rear speakers and got them in a few days. The door speakers are in transit and will arrive this week.
The rear speaker install was very easy. From the trunk, I pinched the plastic tabs holding the grill in place then popped off the grill from the back seat. I then unscrewed the old speakers, put in the new ones, and I was ready to go. (When I say "unscrewed" I mean that I used a ratchet and socket from my socket set.) I purchased a Honda/Acura speaker harness from Best Buy for $6.50, so everything was literally plug and play - no wires to cut or holes to drill.
Assembling furniture from Ikea requires more skill and effort than this, so I wouldn't pay somebody to do it.
My subjective impression is that the rear speaker upgrade has cleaned up the bass a fair bit, but that there is still room for improvement.
I expect the door speakers will be a bit more effort, but with higher return for the effort as well.
I ordered the rear speakers and got them in a few days. The door speakers are in transit and will arrive this week.
The rear speaker install was very easy. From the trunk, I pinched the plastic tabs holding the grill in place then popped off the grill from the back seat. I then unscrewed the old speakers, put in the new ones, and I was ready to go. (When I say "unscrewed" I mean that I used a ratchet and socket from my socket set.) I purchased a Honda/Acura speaker harness from Best Buy for $6.50, so everything was literally plug and play - no wires to cut or holes to drill.
Assembling furniture from Ikea requires more skill and effort than this, so I wouldn't pay somebody to do it.
My subjective impression is that the rear speaker upgrade has cleaned up the bass a fair bit, but that there is still room for improvement.
I expect the door speakers will be a bit more effort, but with higher return for the effort as well.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-lpqJQ6c...0&I=500SPS170A
Crutchfield still has the SPS-170A and they're on sale for $79.99 a pair. Of course Crutchfield says that these will not fit our TSX's. Should I believe them or not? I do not want to cut larger holes or have the windows hitting the speaker magnets or other such PITA stuff.
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http://www.crutchfield.com/S-uZzneoX...0&I=500SPR69LP
I got these for the rear deck, fitting was secure no buzzing, and for the magnets being too big in the trunk I had no problem with that.
I got these for the rear deck, fitting was secure no buzzing, and for the magnets being too big in the trunk I had no problem with that.
#31
Originally Posted by RickKel
See the following link:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-lpqJQ6c...0&I=500SPS170A
Crutchfield still has the SPS-170A and they're on sale for $79.99 a pair. Of course Crutchfield says that these will not fit our TSX's. Should I believe them or not? I do not want to cut larger holes or have the windows hitting the speaker magnets or other such PITA stuff.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-lpqJQ6c...0&I=500SPS170A
Crutchfield still has the SPS-170A and they're on sale for $79.99 a pair. Of course Crutchfield says that these will not fit our TSX's. Should I believe them or not? I do not want to cut larger holes or have the windows hitting the speaker magnets or other such PITA stuff.
Earlier in the thread, I suggested pricegrabber. If you go to pricegrabber, you'll see that Crutchfield is the most expensive of 8 sellers who have stock.
#32
Originally Posted by RickKel
See the following link:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-lpqJQ6c...0&I=500SPS170A
Crutchfield still has the SPS-170A and they're on sale for $79.99 a pair. Of course Crutchfield says that these will not fit our TSX's. Should I believe them or not? I do not want to cut larger holes or have the windows hitting the speaker magnets or other such PITA stuff.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-lpqJQ6c...0&I=500SPS170A
Crutchfield still has the SPS-170A and they're on sale for $79.99 a pair. Of course Crutchfield says that these will not fit our TSX's. Should I believe them or not? I do not want to cut larger holes or have the windows hitting the speaker magnets or other such PITA stuff.
SilverTSXinPA put the Alpine 170A in the doors and said no cutting was required. He used the spacers that came with the speakers and didn't have any issues with the speaker depth with the spacer.
Also, I would recommend that, since the door panels are pulled out for the speaker swap, this would be a great time to put some sound dampening materials in the doors. And, another suggestion. Find a copy of the TSB for door buzzing and print it out. Then, when you have the door panels off, put in the padding shown in the TSB. This is an easy preventive step to take to reduce the chance that your door will buzz after the speaker swap.
#33
Originally Posted by jiggaman
i wish car manufacturers would give buyers an option of getting a more high end audio system as OEM equipment.
#34
there are no good stock systems. the first day i had my tsx, i had the stereo out and replaced. the 360 watts are "marketing"watts. in reality you are looking at about 15 watts times 6. however if you can live with the stereo, more power to you. i couldn't ,and didn't. jps
#35
Originally Posted by jpswanberg
there are no good stock systems. the first day i had my tsx, i had the stereo out and replaced. the 360 watts are "marketing"watts. in reality you are looking at about 15 watts times 6. however if you can live with the stereo, more power to you. i couldn't ,and didn't. jps
#36
I recall listening to someone's upgraded B**e system in a Mustang. It was still bad.
I say, even if they provided an upgraded speaker system (and I've seen them as options on some other Hondas), I'd still prefer to go aftermarket and get what I want.
I say, even if they provided an upgraded speaker system (and I've seen them as options on some other Hondas), I'd still prefer to go aftermarket and get what I want.
#38
Originally Posted by Ron Parr
I can't compare directly to the vehicles you mentioned, but I'd describe it as a big step down from my old 1999 VW Passat, which I traded in the for TSX.
#39
Originally Posted by vidgamer
I recall listening to someone's upgraded B**e system in a Mustang.
If "B**e" means something else,
You want good OEM Audio, listen to:
05+ Acura RL (10 speaker Bose)
M35/45 (14 speaker Bose)
Cadillac DTS (14 speaker Bose)
Lexus LS430 (14 speaker Mark Levinson)
Volvo S60 (10 speaker Dolby Pro-Logic)
Or..
Maybach 62 21-speaker, 600w Bose.
#40
Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
If "B**e" means what I think it does (Bose), then that's not even remotely a possibility. Bose has no contract with Ford whatsoever. Look for "Mach 460" or "Shaker" Audio in Ford Rustangs.
If "B**e" means something else,
You want good OEM Audio, listen to:
05+ Acura RL (10 speaker Bose)
M35/45 (14 speaker Bose)
Cadillac DTS (14 speaker Bose)
Lexus LS430 (14 speaker Mark Levinson)
Volvo S60 (10 speaker Dolby Pro-Logic)
Or..
Maybach 62 21-speaker, 600w Bose.
If "B**e" means something else,
You want good OEM Audio, listen to:
05+ Acura RL (10 speaker Bose)
M35/45 (14 speaker Bose)
Cadillac DTS (14 speaker Bose)
Lexus LS430 (14 speaker Mark Levinson)
Volvo S60 (10 speaker Dolby Pro-Logic)
Or..
Maybach 62 21-speaker, 600w Bose.