TSX - Most HP of any NA 4 banger?
05-19-2007, 04:02 PM
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Get back on topic nuckleheads! I'm really am curious what other 4-cys on the market make more power. We've covered the S2000. Didn't the Honda Prelude type Si make 210hp?
Nissan, Mazda and Toyota don't make 200hp NA 4-cyls. The Germans don't even bother with NA 4-cyl's anymore. I think it's a safe bet that Honda makes the highest horsepower naturally aspirated 4-cyl's on the market.
They've had a 2.2L engine for a couple of years now.
If I recall, the 2.0L only lasted one or two years before they bumped up the displacement to allow more torque. People weren't down with the super high revs and lack of torque...didn't make it friendly for cruising around.
Nissan, Mazda and Toyota don't make 200hp NA 4-cyls. The Germans don't even bother with NA 4-cyl's anymore. I think it's a safe bet that Honda makes the highest horsepower naturally aspirated 4-cyl's on the market.
Originally Posted by AMGala
They've had a 2.2L engine for a couple of years now.
05-19-2007, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon24pdx
Gawd you are one stupid sonuvabitch 
Alright, so I have less automotive intelligence than you, grow some balls man. I drive my car for what it is, don't need to know anything else about it. If I install what I need to install, I don't need any technical terms.
05-19-2007, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by vwong
This is the funniest post ever!!!
05-19-2007, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by vwong
Back on topic, the F20C and F22C in the S2000's definitely make the most hp. Porsche 968 is probably the 2nd place (236hp, 225 ft-lbs from a 3.0L I4).
05-19-2007, 10:14 PM
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This is sooo funny back to topic
Assuming 4 bangers = 4 Cylinders
2006...Mistub Lancer RS...2.0 L.........286 HP......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Saab 9-5...............2.3 L.........260 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2007...Honda S2000........2.2 L.........237 HP ......2 doors……4 cly
2007...PT Cruiser GT........2.4L..........230 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Audi TT 225...........1.8 L.........225 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
2007...Saab 9-3...............2.0 L.........210 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura TSX..............2.4 L.........205 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura RSX..............2.0 L.........201 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
Assuming 4 bangers = 4 Cylinders
2006...Mistub Lancer RS...2.0 L.........286 HP......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Saab 9-5...............2.3 L.........260 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2007...Honda S2000........2.2 L.........237 HP ......2 doors……4 cly
2007...PT Cruiser GT........2.4L..........230 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Audi TT 225...........1.8 L.........225 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
2007...Saab 9-3...............2.0 L.........210 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura TSX..............2.4 L.........205 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura RSX..............2.0 L.........201 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
05-19-2007, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cali4tsx
This is sooo funny back to topic
Assuming 4 bangers = 4 Cylinders
2006...Mistub Lancer RS...2.0 L.........286 HP......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Saab 9-5...............2.3 L.........260 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2007...Honda S2000........2.2 L.........237 HP ......2 doors……4 cly
2007...PT Cruiser GT........2.4L..........230 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Audi TT 225...........1.8 L.........225 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
2007...Saab 9-3...............2.0 L.........210 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura TSX..............2.4 L.........205 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura RSX..............2.0 L.........201 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
Assuming 4 bangers = 4 Cylinders
2006...Mistub Lancer RS...2.0 L.........286 HP......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Saab 9-5...............2.3 L.........260 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2007...Honda S2000........2.2 L.........237 HP ......2 doors……4 cly
2007...PT Cruiser GT........2.4L..........230 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Audi TT 225...........1.8 L.........225 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
2007...Saab 9-3...............2.0 L.........210 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura TSX..............2.4 L.........205 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura RSX..............2.0 L.........201 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
05-19-2007, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Black_6spd
Some of those aren't NA. S2000 is still the champ!
but hey It depends if your talking about NA as in naturally aspirated or as in North America
05-19-2007, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by godfather2
atleast EuRTSX is being a good sport
Cheers
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05-20-2007, 01:09 AM
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I'm sure the question is:
Does the TSX have the most HP of any normally aspirated 4 cylinder car?
Maybe the most of any "Current and Mass Production" 4 Cylinder car.
Here's the only other two that top the TSX for HP:
Honda S2000 - 2.2 L 237 HP
Lotus Exige - 1.8 L 220 HP (I was surprised that the other production Lotus Elise only has 190, but it weighs about 2,000 lbs)
Only one other comes close:
Nissan Sentra Spec-V - 2.5 L 200 HP (would probably smoke a TSX because of torque and weight advantage)
Does the TSX have the most HP of any normally aspirated 4 cylinder car?
Maybe the most of any "Current and Mass Production" 4 Cylinder car.
Here's the only other two that top the TSX for HP:
Honda S2000 - 2.2 L 237 HP
Lotus Exige - 1.8 L 220 HP (I was surprised that the other production Lotus Elise only has 190, but it weighs about 2,000 lbs)
Only one other comes close:
Nissan Sentra Spec-V - 2.5 L 200 HP (would probably smoke a TSX because of torque and weight advantage)
05-20-2007, 03:51 AM
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I'm sure the question is:
Does the TSX have the most HP of any normally aspirated 4 cylinder car?
Maybe the most of any "Current and Mass Production" 4 Cylinder car.
Here's the only other two that top the TSX for HP:
Honda S2000 - 2.2 L 237 HP
Lotus Exige - 1.8 L 220 HP (I was surprised that the other production Lotus Elise only has 190, but it weighs about 2,000 lbs)
Only one other comes close:
Nissan Sentra Spec-V - 2.5 L 200 HP (would probably smoke a TSX because of torque and weight advantage)
Does the TSX have the most HP of any normally aspirated 4 cylinder car?
Maybe the most of any "Current and Mass Production" 4 Cylinder car.
Here's the only other two that top the TSX for HP:
Honda S2000 - 2.2 L 237 HP
Lotus Exige - 1.8 L 220 HP (I was surprised that the other production Lotus Elise only has 190, but it weighs about 2,000 lbs)
Only one other comes close:
Nissan Sentra Spec-V - 2.5 L 200 HP (would probably smoke a TSX because of torque and weight advantage)
05-20-2007, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cali4tsx
This is sooo funny back to topic
Assuming 4 bangers = 4 Cylinders
2006...Mistub Lancer RS...2.0 L.........286 HP......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Saab 9-5...............2.3 L.........260 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2007...Honda S2000........2.2 L.........237 HP ......2 doors……4 cly
2007...PT Cruiser GT........2.4L..........230 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Audi TT 225...........1.8 L.........225 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
2007...Saab 9-3...............2.0 L.........210 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura TSX..............2.4 L.........205 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura RSX..............2.0 L.........201 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
Assuming 4 bangers = 4 Cylinders
2006...Mistub Lancer RS...2.0 L.........286 HP......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Saab 9-5...............2.3 L.........260 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2007...Honda S2000........2.2 L.........237 HP ......2 doors……4 cly
2007...PT Cruiser GT........2.4L..........230 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Audi TT 225...........1.8 L.........225 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
2007...Saab 9-3...............2.0 L.........210 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura TSX..............2.4 L.........205 HP.......4 doors……4 cly
2006...Acura RSX..............2.0 L.........201 HP.......2 doors……4 cly
By the way - if we were including turbo 4's, the Subaru WRX Sti would top all of those at 293 HP!
05-20-2007, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Wow. Fucktard of the year award right here.
05-20-2007, 01:29 PM
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I assume we're talking about "cars" with the most powerful naturally aspirated 4 bangers that are mass produced, but if you want to step outside of that a little, you'd see some hypersport bikes that have even higher specific outputs than the S2000.
Suzuki Hyabusa has a 1.3 NA I-4 that makes roughly 175 hp, giving it a specific output of ~135 hp/liter, where as using the S2k's original numbers of 240 hp and 2.0 liters gives a specific output of "only" 120 hp/liter. The Suzuki engine (whatever it's called) would be considered as mass-produced as the F20C I think.
You can make an NA I-4 engine that produces 300+ hp, but you run into physical limitations like fuel octane and engine management systems that would keep it from blowing up in production use.
Suzuki Hyabusa has a 1.3 NA I-4 that makes roughly 175 hp, giving it a specific output of ~135 hp/liter, where as using the S2k's original numbers of 240 hp and 2.0 liters gives a specific output of "only" 120 hp/liter. The Suzuki engine (whatever it's called) would be considered as mass-produced as the F20C I think.
You can make an NA I-4 engine that produces 300+ hp, but you run into physical limitations like fuel octane and engine management systems that would keep it from blowing up in production use.
05-20-2007, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JWiner
By the way - if we were including turbo 4's, the Subaru WRX Sti would top all of those at 293 HP!
i don't even know what to say to you.
05-20-2007, 10:29 PM
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okay seriously. you guys call yourselves enthusiasts?? really...seriously. 
The most efficient per liter is the integra type-R.
1.8L NON TURBO with 195hp and can rev to 8k.
I own all.
The most efficient per liter is the integra type-R.
1.8L NON TURBO with 195hp and can rev to 8k.
I own all.
05-20-2007, 10:57 PM
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okay seriously. you guys call yourselves enthusiasts?? really...seriously.
The most efficient per liter is the integra type-R.
1.8L NON TURBO with 195hp and can rev to 8k.
I own all.
The most efficient per liter is the integra type-R.
1.8L NON TURBO with 195hp and can rev to 8k.
I own all.
05-21-2007, 06:00 AM
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The F20C produces the highest horsepower per liter for any naturally aspirated engine currently sold on the market that is less than $100,000 , at 120 horsepower per liter. It is followed by both the 2ZZ powered Celica Sports-M (UK only) developing 110 horsepower per liter (200hp through 1.8 liters) and the B18C5+ found in the Honda Integra Type R (Also ~200hp through 1.8 liters).
05-21-2007, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jernut
The F20C produces the highest horsepower per liter for any naturally aspirated engine currently sold on the market that is less than $100,000 , at 120 horsepower per liter. It is followed by both the 2ZZ powered Celica Sports-M (UK only) developing 110 horsepower per liter (200hp through 1.8 liters) and the B18C5+ found in the Honda Integra Type R (Also ~200hp through 1.8 liters).
Hey VorteC.